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@ Ahmad and Fahad bro

The exact mileage of my car is genuinely 54780.Yes Ahmad bro the mechanic checked my car in detail.He had got the some car checking machine which shows the problem in the car.He opned the throttle body properly and cleaned it.He said the tappets are good.I took my car first time to him as my dad check his car regularly from him,and i am strongly against honda pit shops for such minor issues.The pick,sound everything is very smooth MASHALLAH.All i have noticed the mileage is badly effected.Even i took my car back to him and he said (Sahab wehem na kerain achi khasi gari hai kharab kerwaingy jub koi masla he nahi hai :s..Gari ko 100 se neechay rakho toh mileage achi day gi aur auto gari manual se toh ziada he fuel consume kerti hai na).That's what i knw but when i say my car was giving 17km then he said mein maan he nahi sakta

i-DSI is one of the most fuel efficient cars ever made. But, for vario 17kmpl is i guess too much, i m having no doubts on the fact that u may b getting this mileage but i never saw any auto car (1300cc having trunk) giving so much average.So, if u r getting 17kmpl it is simply awesome, but now as the car has done 57k, also check for the mechanical work like clutch discs etc. they can have big effect on mileage

[fahad_reloaded]

so what do u suggest? I should go for tappet adjustment?roughly what is the cost of it?

well first thing is that never listen to any mechanic (or any other person even its me )if u r unsure of their opinion. Tappet adjustment is only needed once u can feel the symptoms which are as under:

1. Delayed starting
2. Knocking and RPM destabilization
3. U can press the accelerator all the way down but it feels that car is not translating this into momentum
4. when u move the steering wheel it sounds too heavy
5. In short ur car performance is not as compared to the acceleration given by u

[Ally]

Huzaifaa is the witness of my car's mileage ..Fahad bro thanks a ton for your nice suggestions.I will visit the mechanic tomorrow again

[Ally]

well first thing is that never listen to any mechanic (or any other person even its me )if u r unsure of their opinion. Tappet adjustment is only needed once u can feel the symptoms which are as under:

1. Delayed starting
2. Knocking and RPM destabilization
3. U can press the accelerator all the way down but it feels that car is not translating this into momentum
4. when u move the steering wheel it sounds too heavy
5. In short ur car performance is not as compared to the acceleration given by u

Oww yessss now i got it.Yes when i press the accelerator,the rpm goes up like my car will fly lolz but it takes momentum slowly..Now m sure tappets need some adjustments.

[ahmadbila]

@ally
well, cant say whats wrong... is the tire pressure correct? as mentioned by @fahad, 17km/ltr from an auto is simply amazing... no one in this thread or off of it reported to have achieved these figures but hey im not saying i doubt ur statement... why dont u check the avg again, may be the fuel u got last time wasnt good...
if ur car has done 54000kms (im assuming u dont have cng installed and u never had it in the past too) ur car does needs tappets adjustment. Honda service manual recommends to get it done after every 20,000kms... so u are already 34000kms above that!!! the tappets change their characteristics (size, actually) by repeated expansion and contraction due to usage. thats why they need to be readjusted. i dont know why ur mechanic said its not needed but do take car, its a VERY tricky job...not everyone can do it... get it done only from a well reputed and expert mechanic... otherwise u ll have issues with the sound and performance of ur engine...

[ahmadbila]

done @ huzaifaa bro
sorry for being lazy

[Ally]

The car is totally driven in fuel(no cng).Shall i now go for honda pit shop for tappets?Anyone who knows the excellent honda mechanic in rwp/isb?Ahmad if you know any mechanic then please suggest..

[huzaifaa]

Huzaifaa is the witness of my car's mileage ..Fahad bro thanks a ton for your nice suggestions.I will visit the mechanic tomorrow again

dont know whats the prob but y dont u check it by honda
isnt she still economical then ur gli?

[ahmadbila]

well first thing is that never listen to any mechanic (or any other person even its me )if u r unsure of their opinion. Tappet adjustment is only needed once u can feel the symptoms which are as under:

1. Delayed starting
2. Knocking and RPM destabilization
3. U can press the accelerator all the way down but it feels that car is not translating this into momentum
4. when u move the steering wheel it sounds too heavy
5. In short ur car performance is not as compared to the acceleration given by u

fahad bro can u kindly explain the highlighted point? i didnt get it! what sound can one hear and how is it related to tappets?

btw, tappets adjustment are a very controversial area... our respected member @vague_one (usman bhai) , even though hes SUCH a big car enthusiast, he NEVER got his idsi's tappets adjusted or throttle cleaned... NEVER... and i ve been with him in his car and its flies like anything.. it was on petrol though, totally... still... but then, he is magical, may be he cast some spell on his cars

one more thing, i dont think slightly out tappet adjustment would make the RPM unstable or delayed starting IF and only IF the car is on petrol... CNG pay tou intake k pass say makkhii b guzar jae tou check light jal jati hy or RPM drop

[Ally]

@ huzaifaa

Yep bro my gli is giving 13.5.Total milege is 2517 now..Yah will go for tappets from honda pit shop..

[huzaifaa]

@ally
well, cant say whats wrong... is the tire pressure correct? as mentioned by @fahad, 17km/ltr from an auto is simply amazing... no one in this thread or off of it reported to have achieved these figures but hey im not saying i doubt ur statement... why dont u check the avg again, may be the fuel u got last time wasnt good...
if ur car has done 54000kms (im assuming u dont have cng installed and u never had it in the past too) ur car does needs tappets adjustment. Honda service manual recommends to get it done after every 20,000kms... so u are already 34000kms above that!!! the tappets change their characteristics (size, actually) by repeated expansion and contraction due to usage. thats why they need to be readjusted. i dont know why ur mechanic said its not needed but do take car, its a VERY tricky job...not everyone can do it... get it done only from a well reputed and expert mechanic... otherwise u ll have issues with the sound and performance of ur engine...

no his car is total petrol driven never smells cng ever
car was the property of PAKISTAN TOBACCO COMPANY n none of their car hav cng ever installed n car is throughly honda maintained n ALLY bro ur car front original number plate is with me (company provided it to me latter on) if interested fix some time n take it from me
20 k tappet adjusment must hav done coz no work was pending in the car
its better 1st u check the mileage again by refilling fuel from some other pump

[huzaifaa]

The car is totally driven in fuel(no cng).Shall i now go for honda pit shop for tappets?Anyone who knows the excellent honda mechanic in rwp/isb?Ahmad if you know any mechanic then please suggest..

yes dont screwed ur car by local mechanic
take her to honda:D

[Ally]

Ahmad bro :D..Just tell me tappets ke sath panga loon ya na loon..

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fahad bro can u kindly explain the highlighted point? i didnt get it! what sound can one hear and how is it related to tappets?

btw, tappets adjustment are a very controversial area... our respected member @vague_one (usman bhai) , even though hes SUCH a big car enthusiast, he NEVER got his idsi's tappets adjusted or throttle cleaned... NEVER... and i ve been with him in his car and its flies like anything.. it was on petrol though, totally... still... but then, he is magical, may be he cast some spell on his cars

one more thing, i dont think slightly out tappet adjustment would make the RPM unstable or delayed starting IF and only IF the car is on petrol... CNG pay tou intake k pass say makkhii b guzar jae tou check light jal jati hy or RPM drop

This thing which i share r mostly my personal experiences, for RPM dropping i had been facing the issue for my own car would u beleive and how it is solved........yeah tappet adjustment..........for some things u dont have the logic u just have to beleive them as manuals say something and practically it whole different world..... i am not challenging your in depth knowledge but just sharing my very own experiences.......so beleive me.........

[Ally]

@Huzaifaa

Yep bro we'll plan to meet soon

[fahad_reloaded]

The car is totally driven in fuel(no cng).Shall i now go for honda pit shop for tappets?Anyone who knows the excellent honda mechanic in rwp/isb?Ahmad if you know any mechanic then please suggest..

which fuel u r using and from where ? dont tell me its shell or caltex...

[ahmadbila]

im sorry i ve no idea about any good mechanics in rwp... but i ve heard honda dealership on peshawar road rwp is good...

[Ally]

No its pso and its soan garden's pump.The road towards rawat..

[fahad_reloaded]

For Tappet adjustment u can go to Asim 03005121300, REHMAN AUTOS, CHOWR CHOWK, Rawalpindi. He has got some sound knowledge of the CNG+Petrol cars especially for air intake problems. Also he is diploma holder related to cars maintenance, my personal experience with him is so far so good.

[ahmadbila]

This thing which i share r mostly my personal experiences, for RPM dropping i had been facing the issue for my own car would u beleive and how it is solved........yeah tappet adjustment..........for some things u dont have the logic u just have to beleive them as manuals say something and practically it whole different world..... i am not challenging your in depth knowledge but just sharing my very own experiences.......so beleive me.........

sir no one is challenging anyones knowledge and infact i dont have any in depth knowledge we re all here to learn...

i just wanted u to explain how bad tappets translate into sounds from steering wheel. i mean, did u feel anything? how did u feel that there is something wrong with the tappets which is effecting the p.s. what sounds do u hear?

and yes may be RPM drops on even on petrol if tappets are not adjusted properly, i dont have much experience with petrol only cars as mine is CNGed... thats why i'd like to learn more from ur experience...