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[fahad_reloaded]

sir no one is challenging anyones knowledge and infact i dont have any in depth knowledge we re all here to learn...

i just wanted u to explain how bad tappets translate into sounds from steering wheel. i mean, did u feel anything? how did u feel that there is something wrong with the tappets which is effecting the p.s. what sounds do u hear?

and yes may be RPM drops on even on petrol if tappets are not adjusted properly, i dont have much experience with petrol only cars as mine is CNGed... thats why i'd like to learn more from ur experience...

lol ........u got the meaning of my phrase word by word.........by using word "SOUND" i meant FEELS like heavy and after the tappet adjustment it felt like very light(the steering wheel), thats all:)

[ahmadbila]

For Tappet adjustment u can go to Asim 03005121300, REHMAN AUTOS, CHOWR CHOWK, Rawalpindi. He has got some sound knowledge of the CNG+Petrol cars especially for air intake problems. Also he is diploma holder related to cars maintenance, my personal experience with him is so far so good.

wow.. that is one GEM of a post...
giving out details of a trust worthy mechanic is the biggest gift u can give to a car-fan... thanks for that

[fahad_reloaded]

wow.. that is one GEM of a post...
giving out details of a trust worthy mechanic is the biggest gift u can give to a car-fan... thanks for that

u r always welcome my brother but keep in mind, he only does this sort of work, he does not deals with mechanical work(in desi he is not a mistri), his especiality is CNG fitting and tunning but has good sound knowledge of PETROL schematics and flow diagram. So, i can exploit his 2 dimensional knowledge to good effect:)

[ahmadbila]

lol ........u got the meaning of my phrase word by word.........by using word "SOUND" i meant FEELS like heavy and after the tappet adjustment it felt like very light(the steering wheel), thats all:)

im sure there is SOME connection between the two... im focusing on the other things involved to find out what that link is
may be stable RPM = stable supply of electricity to the EPS and hence a better feeling steering... anyways, i think we have already agreed on the fact that tappet adjustment IS necessary after every 20k or so kms... and that @Ally bro shud get it done...

[fahad_reloaded]

@ ahmed............btw i had kept 2005(CNG) i-DSI and now i have 2008 and i used to have a lot of work on these rides so i may have some conclusions which i have already reached after big time khwari and when i see others going toward that khwari..... i try to post my experiences so as to save their time and $$$. So, same should be the goal of the this forum to let ur experiences save others time and khwari.... I think khoob guzre gi jo mil baithen *** deewane doo....

[Ally]

Thanks fahad...Thanks Ahmad bro..

[ahmadbila]

u r always welcome my brother but keep in mind, he only does this sort of work, he does not deals with mechanical work(in desi he is not a mistri), his especiality is CNG fitting and tunning but has good sound knowledge of PETROL schematics and flow diagram. So, i can exploit his 2 dimensional knowledge to good effect:)

wow... zabardust! just forwarded his details to my cousin in rwp, hes been struggling to find a good mechanic for his 01 civic

[haa0518]

thank you guys for you replies.

yes the yellow light showed at 478kms(+-) and i drove 10 more kms after that.. but i am confused that how come i put in 46litres of fuel :s i am still puzzled about that...
after that i thought its not okay because 4500rs worth of petrol is too much and i need to get things sorted..so i went to a mechanic and then asked him to do something so that the mileage improves.. i have gone to him before..

he asked me to turn on the car and then he accelerated it and then he said switch it off.. then he opened everything and reached to the tappets... i asked him why did he do that? so he told me that that tappets needs to be adjusted and the adjusted them to 8 number.. basically the tappets were at 12 number before.. and since he has done his work the sound of the car has vanished.. and its like quiet.. i can only hear the alternator a little other than that the car is quite mashAllah..
i asked him that is the throttle body okay or not? he said no its okay and does not require cleaning or anything.. after all of this he was asking for 600rs i said i'll give 400rs but then finally he took 500rs..
the mechanic also checked the plugs and they were red... he said the engine is ok Alhamdullilah and everything is fine.. so lets see what happens now.

now the pick of the car has also improved and also the idiling but i am not sure about the average so i am planning to fill the tank again when i have done 100kms is that a good idea?

after everything he reset the cpu of the car... i don't know why did he do that.. maybe you guys can tell me...

@fahad. brother thanks for the help and your suggestions i am definitely going to check all of these.. i drive slow and avoid hard braking unless necessary.

[fahad_reloaded]

thank you guys for you replies.

yes the yellow light showed at 478kms(+-) and i drove 10 more kms after that.. but i am confused that how come i put in 46litres of fuel :s i am still puzzled about that...
after that i thought its not okay because 4500rs worth of petrol is too much and i need to get things sorted..so i went to a mechanic and then asked him to do something so that the mileage improves.. i have gone to him before..

he asked me to turn on the car and then he accelerated it and then he said switch it off.. then he opened everything and reached to the tappets... i asked him why did he do that? so he told me that that tappets needs to be adjusted and the adjusted them to 8 number.. basically the tappets were at 12 number before.. and since he has done his work the sound of the car has vanished.. and its like quiet.. i can only hear the alternator a little other than that the car is quite mashAllah..
i asked him that is the throttle body okay or not? he said no its okay and does not require cleaning or anything.. after all of this he was asking for 600rs i said i'll give 400rs but then finally he took 500rs..
the mechanic also checked the plugs and they were red... he said the engine is ok Alhamdullilah and everything is fine.. so lets see what happens now.

now the pick of the car has also improved and also the idiling but i am not sure about the average so i am planning to fill the tank again when i have done 100kms is that a good idea?

after everything he reset the cpu of the car... i don't know why did he do that.. maybe you guys can tell me...

@fahad. brother thanks for the help and your suggestions i am definitely going to check all of these.. i drive slow and avoid hard braking unless necessary.

well,well,well tappet issue becomes a hot cake. There shud b no myth in fact that tappet adjustment is due after 25000km and if u r delaying u r compromising on ur car performance. Keep in mind one thing u can only control the controlables and u shud control them.....
Secondly u mentioned that u refilled after 10km of yellow light, as far as i know light comes after 35litres consumption, so i guess u need to work out on it.

[fahad_reloaded]

@ally, did u changed fuel filter and fuel pump after 40000km. Bad Fuel pump can cause delay in starting and fuel filter affects average.

[fahad_reloaded]

@haa0518, precisely from which pump u refilled the fuel

[Ally]

@ally, did u changed fuel filter and fuel pump after 40000km. Bad Fuel pump can cause delay in starting and fuel filter affects average.

Fahad bro i didnt changed fuel filter and fuel pump.Also this is my very first experience with auto car,so i dont know much about how to deal with auto cars.

[haa0518]

well,well,well tappet issue becomes a hot cake. There shud b no myth in fact that tappet adjustment is due after 25000km and if u r delaying u r compromising on ur car performance. Keep in mind one thing u can only control the controlables and u shud control them.....
Secondly u mentioned that u refilled after 10km of yellow light, as far as i know light comes after 35litres consumption, so i guess u need to work out on it.

so what do you think.. was it a good idea to get the tappets adjusted or no? also the tappets were loose before, and now the mechanic has tightened them up, so is this okay?
i also called a person this morning for computerised tuning. what do you say about this? he said he will charge 1700rs which includes tuning and OBDII scan... shed some light on this part aswell thanks for the replies.

@haa0518, precisely from which pump u refilled the fuel

i went to caltex before but not anymore... and 46litres :s how is this possible... the max fuel i got was 37-39L but 46 is too much.. i feel robbed

[fahad_reloaded]

Well.... I just refilled fuel becuase tomorrow i am going for long trip again to Phalia.... and u can see the differnece between CALTEX and TOTAL ,

For average,
Distance covered= 294.4km
Fuel Refilled=1099.6 PKR (11.2 Litres)
Average mileage=26.2kmpl (including 70% on highway and 30% in rwp saddar 1st gear mostly)
Average cost =3.73 (why need CNG)

TOTAL is working wonders for me, even i can feel the difference in drive as i suggested so many times.....

[fahad_reloaded]

so what do you think.. was it a good idea to get the tappets adjusted or no? also the tappets were loose before, and now the mechanic has tightened them up, so is this okay?
i also called a person this morning for computerised tuning. what do you say about this? he said he will charge 1700rs which includes tuning and OBDII scan... shed some light on this part aswell thanks for the replies.

i went to caltex before but not anymore... and 46litres :s how is this possible... the max fuel i got was 37-39L but 46 is too much.. i feel robbed

u remember some pages back i raised a concern about CALTEX pump guages are not upto mark, just go back to the pump u refilled the fuel and ask them to give them petrol in the bottle, then u can measure the guage is upto standard or not...........even, i saw first time any person in the city getting 46+ litres of fuel so it seems something is fishy.....

[fahad_reloaded]

my friend working in Attock refinery (holding a managerial post)told me that whenever there is some shortage of petrol(due to hera pheri) they always adjust like this by adjusting /tempering the fuel guages of the dispensers and believe me it is true....

[fahad_reloaded]

about tappets issue, i am always a follower of periodic maintenance even if car is not giving u particular troubles because (engineers can realize this fact) that there is some tolerance in the lifecycle of every mechanical and electrical part and may be u didnt get the signs of wear and tear at first but if u didnt go for maintenance, u r inviting the trouble and there is famous saying that (hathon se baandi howi girra daantoo se kholi per jaati hay) so mend it before its too late...... and there is one saying that HONDA le loo tou maintenance ko bhool jaoo , that is not true periodic maintenance is necessary even for everything......so there are not shortcuts in life and experience will teach everyone this thing......

[fahad_reloaded]

Fahad bro i didnt changed fuel filter and fuel pump.Also this is my very first experience with auto car,so i dont know much about how to deal with auto cars.

get if changed on first priority, i m 90% sure that ur delayed starting problem will be solved only by changing fuel pump;) and ur average will improve after changing fuel filtre, it goes true and applicable for every car driving on petrol there is no disctinction in this for HONDA or non-HONDA and auto or manual.... that the fuel filter and fuel pump to be changed max by 50000km although company suggest to change it on 40000km..... must change these before anyother thing ......... now i m getting more surprised that u got 17kmpl with so many things to be maintained....

[shazi_00]

Well.... I just refilled fuel becuase tomorrow i am going for long trip again to Phalia.... and u can see the differnece between CALTEX and TOTAL ,

For average,
Distance covered= 294.4km
Fuel Refilled=1099.6 PKR (11.2 Litres)
Average mileage=26.2kmpl (including 70% on highway and 30% in rwp saddar 1st gear mostly)
Average cost =3.73 (why need CNG)

TOTAL is working wonders for me, even i can feel the difference in drive as i suggested so many times.....

Bro yar brilliant avg i m following ur posts, yar masALLAH fit mileage plz guide the user from which Total pump u filling petrol in rwp/isb.....i surely ll pay visit to it

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Bro yar brilliant avg i m following ur posts, yar masALLAH fit mileage plz guide the user from which Total pump u filling petrol in rwp/isb.....i surely ll pay visit to it

@shazi, just scroll 2 or 3 pages before this and i posted list of TOTAL pumps in RWP/ISB, we can check them out. I personally refill from the newly opened pump in Taxila next to Margalla as i travel daily from WAH CANTT to ISB for my job. Also, i have tried out the TOTAL pump just after RAWAT (from RWP to LHR) and just before DEENA (from RWP to LHR).... for detailed lists u can refer to my earlier post......