VERY well said.
in every other toyota and honda thread at the end it was always decided that it's a personal choice,.. and after a few heated arguments the mods always closed the threads down.
i'm not a "manufacturer fan" personally i think we should look at cars on a car to car basis. for example the 4A-GE was way ahead of it's time, and so was the B16. sadly the corolla and civic are cr@p (specially the local stuff). however if you look at the 2nd generation/facelift CRX and MK1 MR2 (4A-GZE) those are both AMAZING fun.
sadly people in PK believe that whatever they have is the best.
no point forcing your opinion down anyones throat.