How overseas pakistani purchase a new car

[talhak7]

Dear all
Iam overseas pakistani and want to purchase a car in karachi. I wanted to know which document should I present to get a new car.

[dakoon]

You can’t .with new regulation non filers can’t purchase new cars . If you start paying taxes then you can become one l

[talhak7]

How possible . Iam sending money to pakistan in the form of remittence. I believe overseas pakistani are not included in filer or non filer list. There is should be a way to get a new car.
Let me know if any one have idea about this issue.

[aliaamar1101]

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[Nabs]

No you can't despite tax exemption on remittance that is encashed in rupees at local bank.

To buy car you must become a filer. For that you have to register with FBR. Then file income tax return for last year AND wealth statement to get listed on Active Taxpayer List.

My advise is to keep out of FBR radar and buy a used car. They can send you show cause notice and penality for as little as not diclosing profit earned in your savings bank account (which you don't have to pay tax on as its deducted by bank).

They sent me an audit notice through email with 4 days due date. I read that notice after due date. No mail, no phone, no sms. Just an email. And they sent me 2 duplicate notices.

There is 25,000 Rs. Penality for not responding to audit notice in time. 50,000 for 2nd notice and 100,000 for 3rd. 100,000 Rs. fine for not reading an email which can easily just land in spam folder.

FBR is a expensive joke. Stay out of it!!!

Proof:

[asharab.butt]

Ouch. Such a shame that a national organization is seriously stupid/greedy.

[Samikhan11]

As the brother said, buy a registered slightly used car. Correct me guys if i am wrong.
As per the new law, one can buy a used registered JDM. But if u try to buy an unregistered aqua and then try to register it, it would become a problem for you.

Even the Green Hurracan of Islamabad is not registered and has an Idf 11 plate on it.

[Nabs]

Yes, anyone can buy used cars if its already registered with Excise. You just can't register any car as non-filer, imported or local.

[Samikhan11]

What about the transfer? According to my knowledge and what i have heard FBR only sends notices to v8's and luxuary cars owners that are only registered upto 2012..

[talhak7]

Dear all

Still one thing not clear. Iam overseas pakistani and iam not earning money in pakistan so how these income tax or sales tax applicable on me.

[Nabs]

My relative bought a small 660cc car for 900,000 Rs. His bank account got frozen and FBR issued 300,000 Rs. penalty which was automatically deducted from his bank account.

To remain out of FBR's radar, don't use banks.

FBR can't probe 5 years old assets. If you bought and transferred cars / property before May 2013, you don't have to provide source of money. But they can still freeze your bank accounts for undeclared assets.

[Samikhan11]

Thats ruthless. What did they wanted from a 660 car owner. They should go after the big wigs.

@Nabs is it some sort of policy they have to go easy on old registered cars which are 5 years older?

[Nabs]

Federal Board of Revenue: Panama cases older than 5 years not to be opened
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1390529/federal-board-revenue-panama-cases-older-5-years-not-opened/

[suhaibayaz]

If you don't respond to these notices, your bank accounts can be marked "Debit Block" by FBR.

If you have clarified their queries than its okay, if not, I suggest get stay order against marking of reserve on your bank accounts.

[sharjeelwell]

Dear Talha, It doesn't matter ke ap tax deduct karwa rahay hain ya nai. Simply file the income tax return and show your tax as zero. This is the way overseas pakistanis have to file income tax return. If no black money is involved in your income then there is no reason to not file tax return. At the end it is beneficial bcz in coming years FBR onna tight the rules more and more.

[favadkhan]

There is no issue ,just need to be filler even you dont pay tax ,Im overseas and Im filler for the past 7 years

[anon35615524]

@Nabs
Bro, please do check. Kahein na kahein koi garbarr hui ho gee, otherwise, aesa hota nai Hai...
Generally, agar Aapki wealth statements theek Hoon, money trails sabit Hoon, figures theek Hoon, sources of income mentioned Hoon, account details di Hoon, tax Pura pay Kia ho and file b utna hi Kia ho, na kamm na zyada... Then I think, issues nai bantay.
Meray Senior colleagues almost pichlay 10-10 saal sey filing Kar rahay Hain, they never got any such notices. All are salaried persons.
Try to figure out the problem so that it gets resolved.

[dakoon]

Bhai seedhi si baat ha thori si used car lain lo .new cars bhi jo suzuki Honda aur Toyota walae banatae ya woh defective hoti ha . Poora forum bhara hua ha complaint se . Pakistan main kafi users ya jo har 6 maheenae ya Saal baad gari badaltae ha .try to buy those cars .

[talhak7]

Good suggestions. Let me tell you that I was regestered as a income taxpayer and having ntn number in fbr during my employment period in karachi ptcl.
Is it possible to update the status and how?

[imran.usman382596]

I am also an oveseas. For this you have to file, but with zero income in Pakistan. Just show your remittance accont's statement and file with zero tax.