Hyundai SONATA ; Dedicated Discussion, Owner/ Fan Club Thread

[Thinking]

brother localization takes time. even construction requires lots of things to be imported. it a tradeoff. we can quite a lot many parts in suzuki, toyota and honda to be procured locally however in new manufacturers it is not the case.

one strategy should be to ensure that manufacturers only get to enjoy tax exemptions once they start exporting right hand vehicles from pakistan to other countries.

everyone needs to understand their responsibility. govt's cant go on changing their policies every 2 months. there has to be some consistency for FDI to start happening.

[mrdeejay]

Are body panels and chassis of CKD vehicles imported or locally made?

[shapeesh]

brother localization takes time. even construction requires lots of things to be imported. it a tradeoff. we can quite a lot many parts in suzuki, toyota and honda to be procured locally however in new manufacturers it is not the case.

toyota and honda atleast make them in pakistan. I think Kia is also doing the same.

[fazalwahab11375]

Its imported. The body panels comes stamped and ready at this time. It goes through welding and transform into body in white, later through Dip, paint and then final assembly.

Hyundai dont have stamping facility locally at this time.

[khurem]

Not such a huge difference. House financing is also contributing towards increasing the import bill. At present, our steel mill is defunct and all the steel requirement is imported and this house construction package has just ballooned steel prices and import bill through the roof. Plus majority of the finishing materials such as tiles, sanitary fittings, lights, accessories etc are also imported - mainly from China. The prices of all of that has increased so much that construction cost is out of reach of common man.

The construction package introduced by Govt last year was a disaster for the economy as that only resulted in inflation of not just construction related goods, but also empty plots - the prices of which jumped up further out of reach of general public. The benefit of the package was only reaped by the rich as it resulted in serious growth in wealth of landlords, especially tax evaders and hoarders who have invested all their black (undocumented) money in files and plots. On top of that package, an amnesty scheme was also launched last year encouraging non-filers to invest further in property which contributed to this massive price hike.

This was pathetic policy making at best. The Govt should have instead focused on channeling all that investment in setting up industries to manufacture goods that can meet local supply requirements and that could have also led to increase in exports earning valuable FX. This would have also resulted in employment generation and genuine improvement in GDP output. However no incentive was given to industrialists and businessmen and they all invested in real estate after seeing the kind of returns it was offering. I personally know some businessmen and industrialists who have either shut down their businesses or thinking to do that as the annual ROI they are making is far lower than that in real estate. Whole nation is being lured towards investment in files and plots whereas real economic growth and investment in industrialization remains neglected. Such a pity!

[waheedomer]

Two week review;
The car is an absolute delight. To have this category sedan option being locally introduced in Pakistan is a blessing and an encouraging direction for the development of our industry. For decades we've been trapped in the Civic/Corolla monopoly and the bashed up Japanese accident imports being flooded in our market.

It's extremely comfortable and luxurious. Features seem to be basic but has all the necessary bells and whistles.

Engine is a 2.0, enough for my city use. If you need to drive fast on occasions then 2.5 it'll have to be.

The only con is that Android Auto and Apple Car doesn't work even though the features are available and enabled. Hyundai technician elaborated that the panel is imported and hence it's server doesn't work in Pakistan. Tuscon's panel is manufactured in Pakistan and it's Android Auto works. But for a premium car they need to iron this problem out and come up with a fix to make it work. I am sure it can be fixed if they give it the attention.

[the129man]

I tried Apple car play at the showroom it worked perfectly there, why isn’t it working for you?
Could there be a defect?

[waheedomer]

I am arranging an iPhone to confirm this. I have shared your feedback with Karachi Hyundai South service manager Kamran and have been pushing him to figure out a solution for this.

[the129man]

Kindly can you share your iPhone model and OS version
There may be an issue in that

Many people are using Apple CarPlay with no issues.
It may be a glitch in the vehicle

Apple CarPlay is compatible with iPhone 5s and above
update to the latest software
there is no server issue in Pakistan

If it still doesn't work force Hyundai to replace it under warranty

[hauntedfury]

I've been using Car Pay without any issues so it might be a particular faulty unit or something else.

[waheedomer]

I've tested with Samsung 20+, S20, iPhone 12. It is not working with the USB cable or Bluetooth. The cable is fine otherwise since it charges through the charging ports in the car. The Hyundai technician misled me by saying that port is only available for playing media through a USB stick and I've tested the USB stick with music and it did not work either. I am on to them to get this faulty piece fixed. I'll post back on how it goes.

[fazalwahab11375]

“ USDM Sonata “

The N-line variant gets the Night Edition.

The special edition limited run car is based on the N-line variant. As the name " NIGHT" suggest, the exterior and interior gets black/ darker shade aesthetic upgrades. Matte black side view mirrors, matte black frontal grill with darker logos on front and rear, carbon fiber looking rear spoiler, special 19” wheels, red brake calipers beside Phantom Black or Quartz white, as an exterior paint option.

Nothing much is changed as far as the interior and it is similar to the typical N-Line Sonata. The interior gets dark chrome trim pieces, while a combination of nappa leather and microfiber suede seating surface, embossed N line badging and red stitching.

As an addiotnal info, the N-Line is powered by a turbocharged 2.5L inline 4 with 290HP and 422NM of torque. It comes standard with 8 speed DCT and FWD is the only option.

The Night Edition is 1000 units only and for US market excusive and priced at around $36,000 .

PakWheels.com Hyundai Sonata Discussion Thread > https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/t/hyundai-sonata-discussion-thread/2173035

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[pwuser15093809934]

[lalacars]

Hyundai “south-Karachi” cheats by selling customers booked vehicles themselves on premium. They still haven’t delivered January booked Tucson.

Furthermore they also deals unfair to their customers & ruin the image of Hyundai Nishat.

Hyundai Nishat must take action in this regard.

[waheedomer]

Took weeks but they finally acknowledged and then corrected the issue. There was some problem with the wiring.

[devilslayer]

Any fellow members got idea wats the delivery time fr Sonata 2.0 at the moment?? Thanks n Appreciated

[usman_arooq2]

It's very hard to secure delivery slot but delivery times are good.

A friend booked his on 9 oct for delivery in january and yesterday someone from Hyundai called and asked if he wants the car to be delivered in Dec but he wants invoice of 2022 so he refused.

[pwuser155265667111]

Does this car have good resale value, want to sell of revo and buy this car since civic has outraged to a inflated price of 5.3 million approx which is absurd

[fazalwahab11375]

Approx 3 to 500K price increase on cards for Sonata

[pwuser151479375487]

Hello, New user here but have been following Pakwheels since a very long time. The community here is really awesome. Looking for some advise and feedback from you guys.

So I took delivery of Hyundai Sonata 2.5 a couple of weeks ago. I purchased the car for my own personal use. The delivery time got delayed but that's fine, expected under the current climate. Then at the time of delivery, I checked the car all around and found that paint was chipped at the edge of the driver side door. Raised the issue to them because when you're buying a new car, you expect it to be scratchless. They were kind enough to put 'kalam' on it and 'issue resolved'. I let it go too since knowing Karachi, you expect these things to happen sooner or later.

A few days later, I took the car to get PPF/Ceramic Coating done. The guys there observed the car and told me that the bumper is not genuine and has been repaired. I was like WTF but they said definitely repaired. I put the process of putting PPF on hold. I don't have an eye for these things as the bumper looked fine to me, so got it checked with 3-4 other independent shops just to make sure that there is no mistake in their assessment. They all confirmed the bumper is not genuine and has been repaired.

Contacted Hyundai dealership immediately and got hold of them. They flatly denied that there is nothing wrong with the bumper and everything is genuine, but told me to come the next day as a person from Hyundai Nishat will come and inspect. Went next day. Both the Hyundai Nishat guy and dealership guy observed in detail. They didn't agree that there was anything wrong but their faces showed someone was up.

Few days later I got a call from the Dealership that Hyundai Nishat has agreed to replace the bumper. I asked them that so you agree the bumper has been repaired. Their response was that NO, but this is for your satisfaction.

This whole ordeal has really left a sour taste. I was genuinely excited that at least there is some competition now in the market but never expected these kind of things to happen. When you book a brand new car, you expect a brand new car, not a repaired one.

Hyundai Nishat wouldn't be spending their resources and putting in a new factory-painted bumper just for my satisfaction.

So what are my options here? The car is now registered. Do I put up a fight that I should be provided with a scratchless 'bumper to bumper genuine car' because that's what I paid for? Or do I get the bumper exchanged and call it a day? Would the fight be worth it or just a waste of my time? Most importantly, would this affect the car's resale value?

Looking for your suggestions and responses.