Immigration Advice

[mlitz80]

Salam all,

I am planning to immigrate to either Canada or Australia with my wife and kids. Consulted with couple of agents who calculated my eligibility and found me eligible for both the countries subject to my score in IELTS which I am sure of getting at least 7 in all bands.

I did my BBA 4 years and MBA both in Marketing and currently working in a Bank as an AVP in Service Quality Department.

Planning to move to aforementioned countries because of better opportunities, children education, health facilities etc.

Please suggest.

Which country I should immigrate to Canada or Australia? I personally feel immigration to Canada is less costly. Take IELTS and you can submit your expression of interest. If you get into the pool then try job bank for jobs or provincial nomination.

For Australia you need to assess your profession too before submitting expression of interest and that would require around 800 Australian dollars and my occupation is in consolidated skilled occupation list means I have to apply for a state nomination. My occupation category would be Quality Assurance.

Should I involve any agent in this process or proceed on my own?

What is the use of an agent? Will my application processing will get more chances of getting approved if I involve immigration agency?

Would I be able to get a job easily or it would be one other struggle after Immigration process? Both in Canada and Australia considering that I am associated with Quality Assurance of a Bank since last five years.

For Canada, can any one advise my NOC type? I will share my job responsibilities with him.

[nasirjavaid]

Have you attempted for IELTS or yet have to appear.. I have same requirements and appeared once for IELTS but my speaking score was 6.5 so planning to appear again. I would say you should try new zealand also as they require overall 7 score. I am also considering applying for new zealand.

[irfananwar]

Australia currently has a lot more to offer as compared to Canada. Yes, the amount you are going to spend on Canadian immigration is much less than that of OZ. Its going to be around 1 million all inclusive for a family of four (Husband, wife and 2 kids). The cost will cover the immigration consultant's charges as well. But I strongly recommend not to use a consultant or an agent if you have a straight forward case. I still regret hiring an agent and wasting a lot of money in lieu of agent's fee when all he has to do is uploading documents on the immi website. In my case, the agent was so dumb that he filled the visa application form incorrectly too and I have to get it corrected after reviewing. And this agent whom I am talking about is MARA registered and quite a known one in lahore. OZ immigration is a very simple process and everything is listed on the DIBP website starting from your qualification and work experience assessment to launching an EOI and application of visa.How many points you expect to score with 7 each in IELTS? If its less than 65, than u need to hunt for 8 each instead of 7. Because with 60 points, the chances of getting an invitation is very bleak as the backlog of the 60 pointers is huge at the moment.If you need any help related to OZ immigration, let me know.

[aamerpervaiz]

Gentlemen having gone through the thread allow me to stae a few pointers;

While making such a major decision involving your family future please ignore the costs and go for the best option only.
In my humble experience Canada is by far a good option as compared to OZ in all aspects.
I too have just started my CA immigration process and after meeting the so call experts in Lahore / Islamabad have opted for a reputed Canadian lawyer. Let's not try saving 2,000.00 Canadian Dollars and mess up our case.

I wish you all the best of luck for your future

[nasirjavaid]

In my case I have only 50 points but my agent said to opt for 7 each in IELTS and there will be no issue in the process as Software Engineering is highly in demand now a days... is it correct or he is cheating on me.
He also said that on 4th July AUS immigration department removes restriction of 7 each on some designated areas for short time and overall 7 score can benefit there... but after I submitted his fee for EOI, he told that this time they did not lifted the restriction of 7 each..
I consider to ask him for a refund in case his intention was of cheating... what you say?

[irfananwar]

In my case I have only 50 points but my agent said to opt for 7 each in IELTS and there will be no issue in the process as Software Engineering is highly in demand now a days... is it correct or he is cheating on me.
He also said that on 4th July AUS immigration department removes restriction of 7 each on some designated areas for short time and overall 7 score can benefit there... but after I submitted his fee for EOI, he told that this time they did not lifted the restriction of 7 each..
I consider to ask him for a refund in case his intention was of cheating... what you say?

The imformation provided by your agent wasnt true. You need 7 in each module to claim 10 points for IELTS and if your points are equal or exceeding 60 without ielts, than a minimum 6 in each is also acceptable.

He's right about Software Engineering occupation in demand but the thing is more and more people are applying for OZ immigration every year from all around the world, especially India. So, more the points, the better it is and the faster you get the invitation to apply as invitations are sent out to the ones having maximum points for pro rata occupations. As I said in my previous post, backlog of 60 poonters is huge at the moment. People with 60 points are waiting from December 2015 for the invitation and I am telling this for Software Engineers. The situation is much worse for Business Analysts and Accountants.

PM me the nme of your agent.

[aakbar]

I can't understand why you need immigration consultants if you are MA very educated people here. Why pay hundreds of thousands of Rupees if not millions on something that you can do it all by yourself with just a little bit of an effort assuming that you are educated people.

Quite frankly I never needed a consultant for whether it was admission to a university in US or Canadian immigration we (I and my friends) applied at Canadian Embassy in New York, or when renewal of the same process within Pakistan. Currently I'm contemplating whether to to apply for Canadian Immigration again as I received my provincial nomination (again without any help from any consultant and so far paying Zero money) in June and will expire by end of Nov. My 2 cents about immigration consultants.

[mlitz80]

Have you attempted for IELTS or yet have to appear.. I have same requirements and appeared once for IELTS but my speaking score was 6.5 so planning to appear again. I would say you should try new zealand also as they require overall 7 score. I am also considering applying for new zealand.

I have not yet appeared for IELTS. Will be appearing soon and I am confident of getting 7 in all bands.

Consulted with two agencies (AINit & Superior Consultancy) and both of them told me that your profession (Service Quality) is not high in demand in New Zealand. In fact Mr. Adil from Superior Consultancy said that I am also ineligible for Australia due to my profession being not high in demand. But AINit advised me to go for Australia and opt for state nomination for my profession.

[mlitz80]

Australia currently has a lot more to offer as compared to Canada. Yes, the amount you are going to spend on Canadian immigration is much less than that of OZ. Its going to be around 1 million all inclusive for a family of four (Husband, wife and 2 kids). The cost will cover the immigration consultant's charges as well. But I strongly recommend not to use a consultant or an agent if you have a straight forward case. I still regret hiring an agent and wasting a lot of money in lieu of agent's fee when all he has to do is uploading documents on the immi website. In my case, the agent was so dumb that he filled the visa application form incorrectly too and I have to get it corrected after reviewing. And this agent whom I am talking about is MARA registered and quite a known one in lahore. OZ immigration is a very simple process and everything is listed on the DIBP website starting from your qualification and work experience assessment to launching an EOI and application of visa.How many points you expect to score with 7 each in IELTS? If its less than 65, than u need to hunt for 8 each instead of 7. Because with 60 points, the chances of getting an invitation is very bleak as the backlog of the 60 pointers is huge at the moment.If you need any help related to OZ immigration, let me know.

AINit calculated my points for Australia and it was a score of 65. But my profession (Service Quality) is in Consolidated SOL not in SOL means Ill have to go for state anomination. As per AINit consultancy and my research, two states of Australian (South and North) are nominating for Quality Assurance but the demand there has dropped to Medium from High. AINit consultancy representative was confident that my case will be processed within 6 to 8 months and I'll be in Australia with my family.

Moreover, he also said that Ill be getting 1800 AUD monthly for my two kids as soon as I ll land in Australia. Education, Health facilities and accommodation will be free and if ill remain unemployed, I can also get unemployment allowance. (God knows the ground realities better)

On the other hand Mr. Adil from Superior Consultancy said that my chances of Australia are weaker as my profession is not in demand in Australia and both the States (mentioned above) are not nominating for Quality Assurance Manager (a statement opposite to my research and what AINit consultancy told me). Confusion starts here for Australia.

But both of them said I am eligible for Canada and have bright chances to be selected for pool. Once i get into the pool, i then need to hunt for a job or provincial nomination as everyone does the same for Canadian Immigration.

[irfananwar]

AINit calculated my points for Australia and it was a score of 65. But my profession (Service Quality) is in Consolidated SOL not in SOL means Ill have to go for state anomination. As per AINit consultancy and my research, two states of Australian (South and North) are nominating for Quality Assurance but the demand there has dropped to Medium from High. AINit consultancy representative was confident that my case will be processed within 6 to 8 months and I'll be in Australia with my family.

Moreover, he also said that Ill be getting 1800 AUD monthly for my two kids as soon as I ll land in Australia. Education, Health facilities and accommodation will be free and if ill remain unemployed, I can also get unemployment allowance. (God knows the ground realities better)

On the other hand Mr. Adil from Superior Consultancy said that my chances of Australia are weaker as my profession is not in demand in Australia and both the States (mentioned above) are not nominating for Quality Assurance Manager (a statement opposite to my research and what AINit consultancy told me). Confusion starts here for Australia.

But both of them said I am eligible for Canada and have bright chances to be selected for pool. Once i get into the pool, i then need to hunt for a job or provincial nomination as everyone does the same for Canadian Immigration.

Are you a software quality assurance engineer? If yes, you dont need to apply under the job title, you can apply under job code 261313 (Software Engineer).

As far as the child allowance, its somewhere around 1300 AUD for 2 kids and u dont start getting it right away. There's a waiting period for that for approx. 4-6 months. You have to register with centerlink once you are in OZ and wait a couple of months for it to be processed.

[mlitz80]

Are you a software quality assurance engineer? If yes, you dont need to apply under the job title, you can apply under job code 261313 (Software Engineer).

As far as the child allowance, its somewhere around 1300 AUD for 2 kids and u dont start getting it right away. There's a waiting period for that for approx. 4-6 months. You have to register with centerlink once you are in OZ and wait a couple of months for it to be processed.

No, I am not a software quality engineer. I am in a Bank and associated with Service Qualify of Bank's products and services. We measure quality measures of our Bank using various tools e.g. surveys, customer complaints, mystery shopping, internal service measures and social media etc.

If anyone can guide me about my NOC for Canada, it would a great help. Agent did not tell me about my NOC code but he said you have a bright chance to be selected for pool for Canadian immigration and we will tell you about your NOC if you opt for our services.

For Australia, I have to go for Quality Assurance Manager section which is in CSOL and for that I need a state nomination. Moreover, I am not even sure if Quality Assurance Manager caters my job responsibilities or not and this is one of the reason I am afraid of going for Australia as, before submitting your expression of interest, I have to asses my occupation and qualifications too which require around 800 AUD and would be a wastage if my occupation does not get positive assessment.

[nasirjavaid]

The imformation provided by your agent wasnt true. You need 7 in each module to claim 10 points for IELTS and if your points are equal or exceeding 60 without ielts, than a minimum 6 in each is also acceptable.

He's right about Software Engineering occupation in demand but the thing is more and more people are applying for OZ immigration every year from all around the world, especially India. So, more the points, the better it is and the faster you get the invitation to apply as invitations are sent out to the ones having maximum points for pro rata occupations. As I said in my previous post, backlog of 60 poonters is huge at the moment. People with 60 points are waiting from December 2015 for the invitation and I am telling this for Software Engineers. The situation is much worse for Business Analysts and Accountants.

PM me the nme of your agent.

Thanks for the info bro... PMed you the details.

[butwhy]

No, I am not a software quality engineer. I am in a Bank and associated with Service Qualify of Bank's products and services. We measure quality measures of our Bank using various tools e.g. surveys, customer complaints, mystery shopping, internal service measures and social media etc.

If anyone can guide me about my NOC for Canada, it would a great help. Agent did not tell me about my NOC code but he said you have a bright chance to be selected for pool for Canadian immigration and we will tell you about your NOC if you opt for our services.

For Australia, I have to go for Quality Assurance Manager section which is in CSOL and for that I need a state nomination. Moreover, I am not even sure if Quality Assurance Manager caters my job responsibilities or not and this is one of the reason I am afraid of going for Australia as, before submitting your expression of interest, I have to asses my occupation and qualifications too which require around 800 AUD and would be a wastage if my occupation does not get positive assessment.

"Agents" lie all the time, they are just after your money.

Use the Canadian government's official site for immigration :

Do you want to come to Canada, or extend your stay?

Click on "check eligibility", see if you are eligible.

Also, here are the NOCs that you are looking for :

Find your NOC

Also, I'm wondering what is AVP (you said in your first post). Is it Assistant Vice President ?

[mlitz80]

"Agents" lie all the time, they are just after your money.

Use the Canadian government's official site for immigration :

Do you want to come to Canada, or extend your stay?

Click on "check eligibility", see if you are eligible.

Also, here are the NOCs that you are looking for :

Find your NOC

Yes I am eligible as per Canadian government site and its eligibility test. I tried to find my NOC but unable to find appropriate one that matches my job description. Some of my responsibilities are in one NOC and so.e are in any other. Can't decide which one to choose.

Moreover, is it necessary for EOI for Canada to assess my degrees as well?

[butwhy]

Yes I am eligible as per Canadian government site and its eligibility test. I tried to find my NOC but unable to find appropriate one that matches my job description. Some of my responsibilities are in one NOC and so.e are in any other. Can't decide which one to choose.

Moreover, is it necessary for EOI for Canada to assess my degrees as well?

If you are eligible from the eligibility test, it also tells you that you can fill out your profile etc...Well just do that and see what happens.

I've also looked into the NOCs, you qualify as a senior manager. Although they don't have the exact job title in there. But you are definitely above middle management. So just fill out the profile and see what it tells you.

Yes, you need to have your degrees assessed :

Have your education assessed — Skilled immigrants (Express Entry)

[jamz]

can any one please guide us (step by step) for skilled immigration of australia?

[memad]

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/SOL

[mlitz80]

"Agents" lie all the time, they are just after your money.

Use the Canadian government's official site for immigration :

Do you want to come to Canada, or extend your stay?

Click on "check eligibility", see if you are eligible.

Also, here are the NOCs that you are looking for :

Find your NOC

Also, I'm wondering what is AVP (you said in your first post). Is it Assistant Vice President ?

Yes, it is Assistant Vice President

[butwhy]

Yes, it is Assistant Vice President

Well what ever you do, just do it through official Canadian government website. Don't bother with these scam artist "agents".

Remember this : Every "agent" and "immigration consultant" will tell you that you are eligible, how else is he going to make any money. Are you willing to pay someone money just so he could tell you that you are NOT eligible for immigration ? I hope you get it.

[mlitz80]

As per six factors test, I am having 76 points. Education, Age, Experience, IELTS with 7, my wife Education, IELTS and my auncle and aunt who are citizens of Canada. I have decided not to have assistant of any agency. Ill get my qualifications assessed, take IELTS by the end of November and apply myself.

Once into the pool, I'll try to find job and would leave no stone unturned in doing that.

Any body has any idea about job prospects in Canada?