Inverter Type AC in Pakistan (Inverter/Non Inverter Dedicated Discussion)

[StrikerX]

So, what's the verdict? Which is the AC to get this year?

[pwuser149484386140]

AOA,can anyone help me, recently i have installed kenwood eInverter pro but having an issue that when running at night after one or two hours it creating humidity and feeling sweating, i call to company and today technician come and check but i am not satisfy from his comments he is saying that change the electricity wire currently i am using normal 7/29, can anyone help me what i need to do???? agar men wire change keru to kia effect hoga??? us ne ye b kaha k agar wire change kerne k bad b koi effect na hua to iska pcb change kerna pare ga... please help anyone

[midreestaj]

You should follow his instructions and keep the company onboard fully

[kala_shah_kaku]

I noticed same behavior with not just one but 3 Panasonic ACs. All are R410a gas models. Try it yourself. Try setting the temperature to least possible and you will notice that the air thrown by the AC is not as cold as a conventional AC. Although when the AC starts it throws quite cold air but when it achieves 24-25 and when you lower the temperature further to 16 the air is not as cold as it initially was. Note down the AMP meter at that point and let me know how much it draws.

[ali15144]

I agree the panasonic r410 ones start to throw warm air, my mamo installed them all over his house in Islamabad i felt hot in those ac and had to increase the temperature at night because it use to get humid and rhe compressor wouldn't kick in but at 18 the cooling was alright.at 25c above it was shit. I did ask ke mamo yeh kya mazak hai thou he said tum ne kuch zaida hee ghost khaa liya hai! . He and his household were accustomed to that cooling. I on the other hand got 1. 5 ton Gree v1th1 , 3 1.8 ton diaken inverter and one 1.6 ton acson inverter. Diaken and acson work like a charm never went over 9.5 amp max.

[ali15144]

got all outdoor units lines vacumed. This is the grees outer viola series it was really big than the other 1.5 inverter of gree.

[midreestaj]

Received my new thermometer and tested with it again. Readings are coinciding with that of old cheaper thermometer. If I summarize it in one line what Panasonic does is it raises the temps by 1.5 C over set temp but it has the corresponding power draw as well.

With new thermo I tested 1st eith 26 C. Room temp dropped at 25.4 C in 15 minutes only. On 20th minute motor slowed down to 1.5 amps to let room temps raise to 27.6 C remained constant there. Sensible cooling difference felt a lot and the feel was as if AC had tripped but it wasn't the case. Real 27 plus room temp doesn't quite feel like AC chilled room as per our people expectations. Better call a neutral situation as per room temps where you can sit and talk but if you move around you feel slight heat at your face then you look at AC if its working ? Kind of like that... Tried to explain in best possible way...

Then 2nd test at 25 before last night sleep. Took max 9.1 amps in acceleration. Temps dropped to 24.2 C fast in max 20 mins. Motor kept slowing down and by 25 minutes past it was at 2.0 amps. Room temp read at 26.4 C and sometimes fluctuate to 26.6 C. Both tests were without fan. As I was preparing to sleep I switched on fan on low speed. Ceiling fan causes sensible cooling to very good just as per expectations. In the morning today, amp draw was at 1.6 amp but room temp was solid 26.6 C before I turned ac off. Reason: walls, ceiling had been cooled down just enough.

I have also done cooling at 16 C few days ago. It just didn't stop as Ac was not able to reach set temp even in an hour. It went max 9.5 amps and after an hour it was still at 8.8 amps. Room temp it achieved was 18.2 C. I aborted the test then. Room felt freezing cold though.

[midreestaj]

I have a plan to contact Panasonic with all this data and findings. Hope something is fixable as I would like my unit to be precise with what's set at remote. Now only I have doubt that Panasonic people might not term it as Normal working i.e set temp on remote + 1.5 C which will surely make it more energy conservative but slightly off the way as I would like it. If I want energy conservation I could dial 27 C myself on remote for that matter.

[pwuser149484386140]

Thanks, yes i will fully chase the company... but last night when i feel humidity i press the turbo then again room feel cold.... anyways will change the wire today and then check the result....

[Ars99]

AoA Everyone, I am just looking to buy a new DC Inverter but not clearly sure which one to buy. I am currently using non inverter Haier 1.5 ton but due to upper portion i am expecting very high electricity bill like every summer, so i plan on visiting the market yesterday but after visiting from one shop to an other and talking to different dealers i am very confused to actually decide which one to pick.

I have heard of gree a lot but as few people told me that there are other inverter's as well like PEL being one of the older companies and also offering 10 year compressor warranty and EER of 3.4 and by spending 52,500 RS for a 1.5 ton Invert o cool series can get me a very good savings.

I also come across Enviro 1.5 ton claiming 70 to 75% Savings with their new series in less price. So can someone give me an idea if they have any experience of any of the above brands or any other local brand that can get me reasonable savings without spending over 60K would be highly appreciated.

[centos]

Not directly related to this topic but here is an interesting observation.

While I was searching for old Lesco bills to figure out how much could I save if I install a solar setup, I found bills from 2007. In July 2007 we paid about Rs. 3954 for 768 units. Now we get nearly 14,000 bill for these many units.

So much for democracy, they have ruined everything.

[kala_shah_kaku]

I think behavior of R22 models is different. Can you discuss this with Panasonic people and confirm? We are 2 people confirming this, in fact I have observed this with 3 Panasonic ACs installed in same house.

[midreestaj]

I am going to do this now and will update on this thread

[autophile]

PEL seems good value for money and their equipment are generally well built.

[ch.talal]

here do another test. Put that thermometer where indoor unit is and see if reading matches.

[ch.talal]

Not directly related to this topic but here is an interesting observation.

While I was searching for old Lesco bills to figure out how much could I save if I install a solar setup, I found bills from 2007. In July 2007 we paid about Rs. 3954 for 768 units. Now we get nearly 14,000 bill for these many units.

So much for democracy, they have ruined everything.

yeah we must go back to the dictatorship of Pervez Musharraf.

(don't forget this mess of load shedding also started during the regime of Musharraf. We got first UPS installed in our home in 2006 because of load shedding in Lahore and it was the time when very few people knew that UPS is also something used for backup. Besides democracy sucks too.)

[midreestaj]

I had my old thermo placed on intake and it reads 1 degree higher than room temp.. if ac thermostat is getting hotter air than rest of room it should send control signals to ramp up the compressor instead. Here in my case it slows down and hence the raise in temps by 1.5C. my 8 years old dawlance 1.5 ton non-invertor does not do this...

If you mean to place in line of air throw then its not the correct way to check ambient temps. Btw, I have done that as well and acquired readings are sometimes even lower than set temp by 2 C because thermo is picking up ac vent temps, farther from vent lower the reading.

[midreestaj]

Life standards are far below the line here with a typical man still not out of health, prosperity, education and employment issues. Energy crisis is an icing on the cake.

[s.3alik]

AoA all,
i just want to know some information about installation, i have to install gree ac. Wiring in my house is not very strong to carry.. large current, so i have to install a separate wire from meter to AC... Now my question is the person who will install AC can install this wire or i have to install it by myself before asking that person to install AC. Anyone have experience regarding this issue.
I will highly appreciate your replies.
Regards

[adeelxp2003]

Electric wiring done by electrician.
A/C technician do not done this work.