Kaghan Valley: Latest Updates for 2012 season

[aesiege]

Sir...you are the best...!!! Many Thanks

Sir, is ke badlay mei aap ko apna trip aur pics share karna hon gi

Best of Luck for your trip and share with us your experience

[asifcae]

what abt road condition till babusar top. road is still till Jalkhad as last year or road has moved on?????

[aesiege]

what abt road condition till babusar top. road is still till Jalkhad as last year or road has moved on?????

In @Libra's "KKH Documentary" in late October 2011, road was same. And now they are clearing glaciers so they will start work again for this season.

Expect same road conditions as last year.

[saad_century]

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/road-trips-vacations/193843-9th-22nd-june-2012-karachi-islamabad-naran-babusar-fairy-meadows-astore-deosai-skardu#post3396255

[pakistanibandah786]

Best of Luck bro

And the good news is that road to lake is open now

Mobeen Bhai...any news on the road condition from Kiwai to Shogran? Thanks Sir

[MultaniTraveler]

Mobeen Bhai...any news on the road condition from Kiwai to Shogran? Thanks Sir

Completed Shogran to Makra Peak Track on last Sunday. Road from Kiwai to shogran is under maintenance. However, all types of vehicles can go to Shogran.

[pakistanibandah786]

Completed Shogran to Makra Peak Track on last Sunday. Road from Kiwai to shogran is under maintenance. However, all types of vehicles can go to Shogran.

Sirjee...Many Thanks. Also, I just spoke to Fiaz saheb the MD of Pine Park and he confirmed that the road from Kiwai to Shogran is accessible/travelable for all vehicles..Regards

[engineermali]

Thats good news saifulmalok road open

[deadman78]

I am planning to go Kaghan Naraan Shogran valley etcc from 7th to 13th July, I want to know when monsoon season starts in that area will there be rain in these days in the valley and what about the clouds are hills, scenery be visible and not hidden behind the clouds issue in these days just to get the info regarding this anyone of you had the experience going to valley during these dates and about the scenes visibility issue update. Comments from the exp persons who had the exp of visiting during these dates will be most welcome and helpful in arranging the trip.

I want to get the scenery visibility clouds hidden issue update info only from the photography prospectus whether I will be able to capture the scenes or not and also because of the rain issue.

[aesiege]

I am planning to go Kaghan Naraan Shogran valley etcc from 7th to 13th July, I want to know when monsoon season starts in that area will there be rain in these days in the valley and what about the clouds are hills, scenery be visible and not hidden behind the clouds issue in these days just to get the info regarding this anyone of you had the experience going to valley during these dates and about the scenes visibility issue update. Comments from the exp persons who had the exp of visiting during these dates will be most welcome and helpful in arranging the trip.

I want to get the scenery visibility clouds hidden issue update info only from the photography prospectus whether I will be able to capture the scenes or not and also because of the rain issue.

Nobody can tell you when will be clouds in the skies or over the mountains neither anyone can predict rains

Rains normally start in 2nd half of July.

I visited Kaghan in first week of July once and in 5 days, it rained 2 days with overcast conditions and 3 days were very bright sunshine. So, its all your luck. Utilize whatever will be on offer.

Besides, the dates of your trip are best to visit Kaghan this season.

Have fun and best of luck for your trip.

[deadman78]

Nobody can tell you when will be clouds in the skies or over the mountains neither anyone can predict rains

Rains normally start in 2nd half of July.

I visited Kaghan in first week of July once and in 5 days, it rained 2 days with overcast conditions and 3 days were very bright sunshine. So, its all your luck. Utilize whatever will be on offer.

Besides, the dates of your trip are best to visit Kaghan this season.

Have fun and best of luck for your trip.

Thanks for sharing your experience and information very helpful.

[pakistanibandah786]

Rahman bhai did this route and pics are available in detail in his thread:

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/road-trips-vacations/157801-preparations-naran-muzaffarabad-rawlakot-banjusa-lake-lc-spitfire

Sir aesiege: After a long deliberations and planning, it was decided to just take the traditional route (ISB-BurhanI-HasanAbdal-ABTBD-BKT-KIWAI-SHOG)..its a tried and tested route and we'll leave ISB very early...the plan is to say Jumuah prayer either in Kiwai or Shog inshaAllah...Regards

[pakistanibandah786]

Completed Shogran to Makra Peak Track on last Sunday. Road from Kiwai to shogran is under maintenance. However, all types of vehicles can go to Shogran.

Sir @MultaniTraveler: Many Thanks for this....Would you be kind enough to get an update from your contacts in that region on the PARAS-SHARAN Road conditions, if possible??? Regards

[zahid135]

Sir aesiege: After a long deliberations and planning, it was decided to just take the traditional route (ISB-BurhanI-HasanAbdal-ABTBD-BKT-KIWAI-SHOG)..its a tried and tested route and we'll leave ISB very early...the plan is to say Jumuah prayer either in Kiwai or Shog inshaAllah...Regards

Best of Luck!

It will be better if you offer Jumah Prayer @ Balakot instead of Kiwai or Shogran.

[pakistanibandah786]

Best of Luck!

It will be better if you offer Jumah Prayer @ Balakot instead of Kiwai or Shogran.

Ok Sir @Zahid135, thanks...I understand your point.

[Moj]

I am in Naran right now, weather seems to be perfect ! Visited saif ul malook and lulusar lake. Road to Babusar top is still not clear. Same is the noori top condition. As per the locals road to Babusar top will open in 4-5 days. Boating at Saif ul malook is closed by local govt, not sure about the reason. The crowd is building up and I am sure in a week or two this place will be like murree. Hotel + jeep rates also inflating. Do bring along a lot of warm clothes as when it rains the weather gets really freezing. Good luck everyone !

[engineermali]

I am in Naran right now, weather seems to be perfect ! Visited saif ul malook and lulusar lake. Road to Babusar top is still not clear. Same is the noori top condition. As per the locals road to Babusar top will open in 4-5 days. Boating at Saif ul malook is closed by local govt, not sure about the reason. The crowd is building up and I am sure in a week or two this place will be like murree. Hotel + jeep rates also inflating. Do bring along a lot of warm clothes as when it rains the weather gets really freezing. Good luck everyone !

Boating at Saif ul malook is closed by local govt, not sure about the reason

PEOPLE POLLUTING THE LAKE

[pakistanibandah786]

I am in Naran right now, weather seems to be perfect ! Visited saif ul malook and lulusar lake. Road to Babusar top is still not clear. Same is the noori top condition. As per the locals road to Babusar top will open in 4-5 days. Boating at Saif ul malook is closed by local govt, not sure about the reason. The crowd is building up and I am sure in a week or two this place will be like murree. Hotel + jeep rates also inflating. Do bring along a lot of warm clothes as when it rains the weather gets really freezing. Good luck everyone !

Thanks Sir @Moj for the update!!!

[gowani]

Brothers,
I will be on Naran on 16th of June with 2 of my friends. Our tour is 6 FULL days for the Naran/Kaghan. I have few targets for this trip like site seeing and a bit of Treking. I havent trek (and visited Naran) before. Can someone provide some suggestion for treking to dudipatsar. can I find a group of other friends who can help us out? Also, since we are on limited budget (and also the first visit), would it be more helpful if we can target some sort of tour travel guide....

Please help me out b/c I have already bought the tickets. and Pls once again (WE HAVE LIMITED BUDGET)

The reason I am targetting treking is b/c we dont know whether we can come again or not.........Remember (IN 6 DINO MAIN APNI PURI ZINDAGI JEENA CHAHTA HOON )

Any other suggestion would also help

thanks very much in advance...

[m_azhar]

I was in Kaghan valley from 2nd June to 4th June with a night stay at lake saifulmalook on monday night (sunday evening). The jeep track to saifulmalook was cleared on said night. At that time , Aanso lake was not accessible.
I am going again on 15th June and still waiting for updates about access to Aanso lake.
Our group is of 5 persons and probable plan is:

• Leave Lahore at about 1 AM, 15th June by Bus.
• Departure to Abbotabad, Mansehra from Rawalpindi at 6:15 AM bus and reach Balakot by 10:45 AM.
• Departure from Balakot towards Naran at about 11:30 AM. (means to be finalized yet) and Reach Naran by 3:10 PM.
• Leave for saifulmalook by 4:30 PM by Jeep.
• Camping at lake saifulmalook.
• Leave for aanso lake by 6:15 AM, 16th June.
• Return to Naran, night stay at hotel.
• Departure from Naran for Lalazar, Lulusar lake.............. at 5:30 AM, 17 th June,inshallah on Jeep.
• Reach Lalazar at about 7 AM and departure a t about 8 AM.
• Reach Jalkhad at about 10:15 AM. (sight seeing margin added)
• Reach Babusar pass at about 1:45 PM.
• Reach Babusar village at about 3 PM.
• Return to Lulusar lake for camping. Inshallah reach Lulusar lake at about 6 PM. Night stay in camp.
• Leave for Besal at 5:30 AM insahallah on 18th June.
• Reach Besal and leave for Dudipatsar lake via mulla di basti at about 7 AM.
• Reach Dudipatsar lake at about 3 PM inshallah. Camping and night stay.
• Leave for Saral lake at about 5:30 AM inshallah on 19th June.
• Night stay at saral lake.
• Leave for noori top at about 5:30 AM inshallah on 20th June.
  From noori top the option of returning to Jalkhad or going to Shardah is depnding on the status of track availability for jeeps. Otherwise camp at noori top
• Leave from Noori Top to Kala Sar via Noori Lake at about 5:30 AM on 21st June. Camp at Kala sar.
• Leave from Kala Sar to Ratti gali Lake on 22nd June. Camp at ratti gali lake.
• Ratti Gali to Dawarian. and back towards Rawalpindi-Lahore on public transport on 23rd June.

Any recommendations on routes or on plan changes are welcome.