Karachi To Northern Areas On My 70cc

[saqib.mamsa]

Assalam O Alaikum... i hope you all are doing good.
actually i am planning a solo trip in this November
To scene aisa hai kay main karachi to rawalpindi via train pohnchunga then wahan say poora tour apni 70cc Bike pay.

01: Please suggest me kay main apni bike safest way mein Karachi To Islamabad/Rawalppindi yahan say kaisay bhejun? Train Bilty or via Coach ? Please suggest the best and safest option

02: I am totally confused kay main Kashmir wali side explore karun ya Gilgit Baltistan November mein konsi side meray liye best rahegi jahan mujhay bohat ziada snow na milay aur main achi tarah explore kr sakun please suggest

03: This is my first solo trip, issay pehlay main Mansehra/KPK aur Gilgit Baltistan Friends - Family subkay sath ghoom chuka hun but at this time i want to explore alone on my bike.

Please suggest me some beautiful routes & places to explore, and i will be really grateful if someone suggest some good ideas, tips & tricks.

Thanks in advance !

[roboxx]

Touring on CD70, I won't recommend. You'll get fatigued in no time. Better get a comfortable bike.
1. By Train
2. Kashmir
3. Rawalpindi to Murree, then Muzaffarabad, then to Keran, Sharda (Kashmir) via Athmuqam

On your way from Muzaffarabad onward you'll get Dhani & Kuttan water falls & beautiful bridges. Easy track for Bikers.

Going alone is somewhat risky, better accompany a friend and take necessary luggage with you.

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@vickytulla @r1 bikers

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[farooq05]

You can book you bike on train.

November wont be good time for bike due to cold and biking itself is so tiring and it will add more fatigue on CD70..

About beautiful areas, you wont find real of beauty of these areas during your chosen time.. mostly it will be dry and cold weather so take your preparation accordingly.

[saqib.mamsa]

First of all thank you so much for the reply

About beautiful areas, you wont find real of beauty of these areas during your chosen time.. mostly it will be dry and cold weather so take your preparation accordingly.

*Actually i love winter vibes jana to Dec/Jan mein chahta tha but mujhay nahi lagta itni thand mein, main bike pay travel kr paaonga so that's why menay September choose keya that snowfall itni nahi milegi Routes bhi i guess open hongay aur winter snowfall bhi mill jaayegi. if am i right ?

November wont be good time for bike due to cold and biking itself is so tiring and it will add more fatigue on CD70..

*So what is best month for me ? can you suggest me please ?

Thanks in advance !

[capsat]

load the bike over train as accompanied luggage. upto Rawalpindi.
Kashmir is doable before Oct end, with extra warm clothes. Stop at sundown., ride only during day light.

November Travelling on Bike in Kashmir, as non-local, please do not risk your life.
check weather updates - very unusually snowfall has already started up north, babusar may get closed any day now.

[nnabeel]

yes, it is doable. one of a known friend has travelled from Islamabad to Kunjerab pass solo on a Honda 50(with original 50cc engine). the next trip he done was from isalamabad to lahore via GT road travelling at speed of 40-50 spending 11 hrs and then gave interview to Pakwheels (available on youtube)

extra care is needed, you should have proper gears and cloths, complete knowledge of roads & weather.

[vickytulla]

@vickytulla @r1 bikers

CD70 will get abused on highway; or you will hav to stay below 70kmh to average around 45kmh which means you will have to sit on bike for tooo long.. and can get a back ache

as every one suggested LOAD it on train and land in Rawalpindi and enjoy the north.

[saqib.mamsa]

November Travelling on Bike in Kashmir, as non-local, please do not risk your life.

Why ? Can you please elaborate ?

And what about G T road to Nowshera and from there to Malakand pass, Chakdarra, Dir, Lowari tunnels and Chitral ?

[capsat]

November Travelling on Bike in Kashmir, as non-local, please do not risk your life.

Why ? Can you please elaborate ?

fog and unpredictable rain showers, winding wet roads are tricky to tackle for a non-local.

For such adventures over bike is after Feb 15 every year when weather starts to get mild during day light and pleasant under sun.

[saqib.mamsa]

Got it'

Thanks !

[r1]

1. Train is s best option but you've to take NOC from Booking Office and get it signed from Railway Police at Cantt Station or travel on same booking day to avoid dispute(s).

2/3. AJK in November is not advisable, however you can explore Lower Chitral, Yasin, Hunza, Skardu and even Shimshal but it all depends on your offroad capabilities. Plus you've to take Bisham route due to the closure of Babusar. Baki rahi baat 70 kahan tak ja sakti to I met with a guy at Lashkargaz Broghil who traveled all the way from Layyah on his 1988 CD70.

Weather will be feasible for all type of low/high displacement bikes so take short breaks i.e for meals, refreshments. Better for you & machine.

[saqib.mamsa]

Now it's time to share some Good & Bad experience about Bike Cargo.

To kaafi research kay bad meney decide keya kay main apni Bike by Train Luggage karunga, as i asked so many times to Railway Concern Department kay aap booking pehlay say karlain end time pay nahi huyi to problem ho jaayegi but they said advance booking mein apko bike yahan chorni paregi jiski koi guarantee nahi hoti kay kub pohnachegi, aap usi din aayen jis din apka ticket hai Rawalpindi ka bss 2' ghantay pehlay aayen aapka kam ho jayeega, so finally main us din 2 nahi 3' ghantay pehlay machli gate say apni lay kr station pohancha aur jub menay kaha sir mujhay bike sath lay kr jaani hai mera aaj ka ticket hai to unka rawayya he badal gaya kay aaj jaa he nahi sakti pehlay say itni saari bikes khari hain wo nahi gayi aapki kaisi bhaij dein & blah blah but main try krta raha kay sir bike kay baghair main jaa he nahi sakta mera poora tour ispay hai aur menay kaafi dafa aap logon say aa kr poocha tha kal tk aap logon nay kaha tha kay chali Jaayegi aram say aur aaj aap keh rahay hain possible nahi main calm raha aur wo aggressive hotay rahay isi doraan kaafi log aaye kay main apka kam krwa dunga 2.din koi kehta 3 din mein but meray pas din ziada nahi thay aur mujhay next day he bike chahiye thi khair meray 1' ghantay insist krnay kay bad achanak say ek awaaz aati hai kay parchi banwaayain apni bike ki jaldi karain tub thora sukoon mila aur menay unhain Thank you & JazaakAllah kaha jis pay wo hansnay lagay uskay baad 3600 lay kr unhon nay 70 ko 150 likh kr mujhay reciept di uskay bad jisnay bike chadhaani thi usnay 200 liye bari mushkilon say warna 500.600 say halka he nahi a raha tha bhai khair meri majboori thi because meray pas koi option nahi tha aur train lagnay mein sirf 30' mins reh gaye thay but at Rawalpindi station kisi nay koi bat nahi ki ek acha parha likha young officer tha jisnay sirf meri bike aur mujhay 5' mins mein verify keya aur mujhay bike handover krdi kisi ko kuch nahi dena para naa kisi ki minnatain krni paree'n. But wapsi mein i found Bilal Travels in Mansehra Laari Adda jinhon nay mujhsay sirf 4500 charge keyay From Mansehra To Karachi plus Mera Bag Helmet aur Meray Chotay motay Gadgets unhon nay safely Karachi tk Pohnchaaye even side mirrors bhi khud utaar kr safely mujhay diyay which is highly appreciated' menay unhain kaha kay kaash mujhay pehlay pata hota to main aap logon say he Cargo krwaata, instead of Train & Others' Because menay aur bhi Buses walon say pata keya tha 7k say kam mein koi lay jaanay ko tayyar nahi tha Like Waraich* Faisal Movers* Etc Etc... So overall experince ye raha kay agar koi bhai apni bike cargo karna chahta ho kabhi to Bilal Travels zaroor try karain, Highly Recommended !