Liana owners & fan club

[saboor73]

We Discussed with mechanic in detail, he has the vvt ecu & required wiring and ready to provide. But he advised not to do that, after swap of ecu and other electronic job engine may create problem as vvt ecu has entirely different engine management system. He said ecu would also required to change EGR, oil switches and some other pins. He already swapped an assembly and faced no issue.
However, he gave us two options
(a) We may get vvt ECU and wiring
(b) He told to drive this engine for three months if we face any problem due to assembly, he will swap with non vvt assembly

Please advise...

I call bs on that engine wont create any issue if work is proper I would say two things
1)stop visiting idiots who doesnt know what he is doing
2) (a) option is good

[enthusiastic.learner]

Yesterday i took my car to my suspension wala. Car making tak tak sound esp on uneven surfaces. I thought it was of inner axle. He drove the car and suspected axles. He pulled out both assemblies but both came out perfectly fine including inners, outers, boots, and adequate grease. Gear oil which came out was filled back but i insisted to bring it to full level and bought a dabba and poured all in.

He showed me that the rack end is having play and needs to be replaced. I asked the auto part shop and they quoted me 3500 for japani pair. Chinese are also available which he didnt have.
Please suggest on the issue. The control arms are perfectly fine and bushings seem ok too.

Be careful and DON'T overfill your transmission with more oil than it can handle. I faced a transmission oil leak when a stupid ustaad filled an entire bottle of transmission oil into the transmission while the car was jacked up from front. You should park your car on level floor and open the front oil plug of transmission. If it is dripping, let it drip until it stops. Once stopped, you're good. Take out the extra oil before it starts leaking from various seals and gaskets.

[abid110]

Be careful and DON'T overfill your transmission with more oil than it can handle. I faced a transmission oil leak when a stupid ustaad filled an entire bottle of transmission oil into the transmission while the car was jacked up from front. You should park your car on level floor and open the front oil plug of transmission. If it is dripping, let it drip until it stops. Once stopped, you're good. Take out the extra oil before it starts leaking from various seals and gaskets.

According to him, the oil was in less quantity and needed a top up. I think that bottle was of 500ml or so. What is the capacity of gear oil?

[saboor73]

I assumed that due to 12 holes but same vol of petrol my car pic is increased . As sprayed fuel is in form of thin mist as compared to 4 hole injector of liana. And engine volume of swift and liana r same only swift inlet is smaller and tb position is little changed. So I think that its injectors should give good results in liana.
So I try this !

Previous owner of your car had done different experiments (played with cat con etc) i wonder if injector on your car are not oem can you post pics of injector came out of liana

[gullahmad]

Previous owner of your car had done different experiments (played with cat con etc) i wonder if injector on your car are not oem can you post pics of injector came out of liana

Bro injectors r original I only changed for experiment, while as for as cat converter I installed the original one from scrap market. When a car is in my ownership I maintain it to its original shape and parts.
And overall my liana is 2009 so 95% is orignal.

[syedmughees]

ECU of M13A vvt engine ?? not pkdm...........yes interested

[saboor73]

That is non vvt ecu m13a and it work only with auto transmission

[azyy]

I call bs on that engine wont create any issue if work is proper I would say two things
1)stop visiting idiots who doesnt know what he is doing
2) (a) option is good

Okeys.... shall do that InshaAllah

I hope shall not pay in exchange with older one ECU, and no need of harness as only one extra connection cable will be required as per the electrician.

is he right

[enthusiastic.learner]

According to him, the oil was in less quantity and needed a top up. I think that bottle was of 500ml or so. What is the capacity of gear oil?

All you need to know is that when car is parked on level floor, fill the oil from front transmission plug (the plug that is towards the radiator side) and as soon as it starts dripping, that indicates the car is full. If your car is not parked on level floor while you are filling up your transmission then you asking for trouble.

[saboor73]

Okeys.... shall do that InshaAllah

I hope shall not pay in exchange with older one ECU, and no need of harness as only one extra connection cable will be required as per the electrician.

is he right

I am not sure but as far as I recall wirring harness is same btw there was a guy who called with the same vvt and non vvt problem and he told that a racing group on facebook is claiming that they can reprogram a non vvt ecu to a vvt ecu

[azyy]

I am not sure but as far as I recall wirring harness is same btw there was a guy who called with the same vvt and non vvt problem and he told that a racing group on facebook is claiming that they can reprogram a non vvt ecu to a vvt ecu

ok. I think we shall find the vvt ecu easily. However, no doubt Paki auto lovers are very talented and creative...

[enthusiastic.learner]

Did a detailed surgery of my Liana today. I had brought a brand new thermostat and ECT sensor which I needed to install. But in order to get to the thermostat housing, I had to pull off the entire intake manifold. So I took the opportunity of cleaning it as well.

Here's what I did:

1: Took the fuel injector rail off
2: Disconnected all connectors attached to the intake manifold
3: Pulled off all the pipes that were connecting air intake manifold to the engine and other areas
4: Drained the radiator completely
5: Covered the generator with a plastic sheet and then opened the thermostat housing
6: Installed the thermostat
7: Pulled the inflow and outflow heater core pipes from the firewall and connected outflow to the tap with a long pipe. Redirected the inflow to the ground using another piece of pipe and opened the tap. Clean water ran through the heater core for around 30 seconds before I turned the tap off
8: Cleaned the hell out of air intake manifold along with throttle body. Took out almost a spoon full of gunk and dirt from inside and finally dried with a power blower
9: Scrapped off the remains of old gasket and put a new gasket for air intake manifold as well as throttle body
10: Installed the air intake manifold back on the engine along with throttle body
11: Installed the brand new ECT sensor
12: Connected the heater core pipes back firmly and then filled it up with ZIC SuperA anti-freeze (pre-mixed)
13: Pulled off the overflow bottle and washed with hot water and soap until there was not a spot of dirt or gunk remaining inside
14: Filled the radiator slowly with coolant and then the overflow bottle.
15: Then washed the fuel injector rail along with each fuel injector individually with carburetor cleaner. Also installed brand new pipes for power steering bucket.
15: Then installed them back followed by a thorough cleaning of the engine with a tooth brush and vacuum cleaner.
16: Then started the engine car started up and she started beautifully with a stable idle.
17: Needle steadily rose to half way mark and as soon as it was there, the fan kicked in (YES! AUTOMATIC!!!)
I still have to bleed the air out of my cooling system since I suspect there is some air inside. Will do it tomorrow as I'm too tired now

[saboor73]

Did a detailed surgery of my Liana today. I had brought a brand new thermostat and ECT sensor which I needed to install. But in order to get to the thermostat housing, I had to pull off the entire intake manifold. So I took the opportunity of cleaning it as well.

Here's what I did:

1: Took the fuel injector rail off
2: Disconnected all connectors attached to the intake manifold
3: Pulled off all the pipes that were connecting air intake manifold to the engine and other areas
4: Drained the radiator completely
5: Covered the generator with a plastic sheet and then opened the thermostat housing
6: Installed the thermostat
7: Pulled the inflow and outflow heater core pipes from the firewall and connected outflow to the tap with a long pipe. Redirected the inflow to the ground using another piece of pipe and opened the tap. Clean water ran through the heater core for around 30 seconds before I turned the tap off
8: Cleaned the hell out of air intake manifold along with throttle body. Took out almost a spoon full of gunk and dirt from inside and finally dried with a power blower
9: Scrapped off the remains of old gasket and put a new gasket for air intake manifold as well as throttle body
10: Installed the air intake manifold back on the engine along with throttle body
11: Installed the brand new ECT sensor
12: Connected the heater core pipes back firmly and then filled it up with ZIC SuperA anti-freeze (pre-mixed)
13: Pulled off the overflow bottle and washed with hot water and soap until there was not a spot of dirt or gunk remaining inside
14: Filled the air radiator slowly and then the overflow bottle.
15: Then washed the fuel injector rail along with each fuel injector individually with carburetor cleaner. Also installed brand new pipes for power steering bucket.
15: Then installed them back followed by a thorough cleaning of the engine with a tooth brush and vacuum cleaner.
16: Then started the engine car started up and she started beautifully with a stable idle.
17: Needle steadily rose to half way mark and as soon as it was there, the fan kicked in (YES! AUTOMATIC!!!)
I still have to bleed the air out of my cooling system since I suspect there is some air inside. Will do it tomorrow as I'm too tired now

Keep up the good work

[trouble_maker]

Pm me demand I maybe interested

[Proverbial_Slang]

Did a detailed surgery of my Liana today. I had brought a brand new thermostat and ECT sensor which I needed to install. But in order to get to the thermostat housing, I had to pull off the entire intake manifold. So I took the opportunity of cleaning it as well.

Here's what I did:

1: Took the fuel injector rail off
2: Disconnected all connectors attached to the intake manifold
3: Pulled off all the pipes that were connecting air intake manifold to the engine and other areas
4: Drained the radiator completely
5: Covered the generator with a plastic sheet and then opened the thermostat housing
6: Installed the thermostat
7: Pulled the inflow and outflow heater core pipes from the firewall and connected outflow to the tap with a long pipe. Redirected the inflow to the ground using another piece of pipe and opened the tap. Clean water ran through the heater core for around 30 seconds before I turned the tap off
8: Cleaned the hell out of air intake manifold along with throttle body. Took out almost a spoon full of gunk and dirt from inside and finally dried with a power blower
9: Scrapped off the remains of old gasket and put a new gasket for air intake manifold as well as throttle body
10: Installed the air intake manifold back on the engine along with throttle body
11: Installed the brand new ECT sensor
12: Connected the heater core pipes back firmly and then filled it up with ZIC SuperA anti-freeze (pre-mixed)
13: Pulled off the overflow bottle and washed with hot water and soap until there was not a spot of dirt or gunk remaining inside
14: Filled the air radiator slowly and then the overflow bottle.
15: Then washed the fuel injector rail along with each fuel injector individually with carburetor cleaner. Also installed brand new pipes for power steering bucket.
15: Then installed them back followed by a thorough cleaning of the engine with a tooth brush and vacuum cleaner.
16: Then started the engine car started up and she started beautifully with a stable idle.
17: Needle steadily rose to half way mark and as soon as it was there, the fan kicked in (YES! AUTOMATIC!!!)
I still have to bleed the air out of my cooling system since I suspect there is some air inside. Will do it tomorrow as I'm too tired now

Beautiful!!!

[enthusiastic.learner]

Beautiful!!!

Bro I still have to burp the radiator. Although I ran the car for quite sometime while it was parked on a ramp at around 30 degrees from level ground with radiator cap off, I have observed after a gap of around 2 hours per check that my coolant level in radiator is decreasing and I have to top it up with a little more coolant. I have read that Liana's coolant capacity is around 6.5 litres and so far I have added only around 6 litres. Any ideas? Nothing is mentioned in the manual.

[saboor73]

Bro I still have to burp the radiator. Although I ran the car for quite sometime while it was parked on a ramp at around 30 degrees from level ground with radiator cap off, I have observed after a gap of around 2 hours per check that my coolant level in radiator is decreasing and I have to top it up with a little more coolant. I have read that Liana's coolant capacity is around 6.5 litres and so far I have added only around 6 litres. Any ideas? Nothing is mentioned in the manual.

Classic sign of air in cooling system the coolant level will decrease when air will escape open radiator cap start car squeak all hoses (do it all in start car)

[trouble_maker]

Did a detailed surgery of my Liana today. I had brought a brand new thermostat and ECT sensor which I needed to install. But in order to get to the thermostat housing, I had to pull off the entire intake manifold. So I took the opportunity of cleaning it as well.

Here's what I did:

1: Took the fuel injector rail off
2: Disconnected all connectors attached to the intake manifold
3: Pulled off all the pipes that were connecting air intake manifold to the engine and other areas
4: Drained the radiator completely
5: Covered the generator with a plastic sheet and then opened the thermostat housing
6: Installed the thermostat
7: Pulled the inflow and outflow heater core pipes from the firewall and connected outflow to the tap with a long pipe. Redirected the inflow to the ground using another piece of pipe and opened the tap. Clean water ran through the heater core for around 30 seconds before I turned the tap off
8: Cleaned the hell out of air intake manifold along with throttle body. Took out almost a spoon full of gunk and dirt from inside and finally dried with a power blower
9: Scrapped off the remains of old gasket and put a new gasket for air intake manifold as well as throttle body
10: Installed the air intake manifold back on the engine along with throttle body
11: Installed the brand new ECT sensor
12: Connected the heater core pipes back firmly and then filled it up with ZIC SuperA anti-freeze (pre-mixed)
13: Pulled off the overflow bottle and washed with hot water and soap until there was not a spot of dirt or gunk remaining inside
14: Filled the radiator slowly with coolant and then the overflow bottle.
15: Then washed the fuel injector rail along with each fuel injector individually with carburetor cleaner. Also installed brand new pipes for power steering bucket.
15: Then installed them back followed by a thorough cleaning of the engine with a tooth brush and vacuum cleaner.
16: Then started the engine car started up and she started beautifully with a stable idle.
17: Needle steadily rose to half way mark and as soon as it was there, the fan kicked in (YES! AUTOMATIC!!!)
I still have to bleed the air out of my cooling system since I suspect there is some air inside. Will do it tomorrow as I'm too tired now

Those pipe going to inlet manifold are from CNG injectors?

[enthusiastic.learner]

Those pipe going to inlet manifold are from CNG injectors?

The big pipe at the top is the vacuum pipe for break booster. The pipe with a white plastic elbow connected at the end is connected to the engine breather hole at the top. The small pipe at top right is for CNG I believe but I have got rid of the 200kg extra passengers in my trunk so this doesn't matter in my case.

[car_bus2008]

Those pipe going to inlet manifold are from CNG injectors?

yepp i think becoz i think my liana doesnot have these pipes.