Lubricant Discussion- Engine Oil / Gear Oil

[anon35615524]

And I forgot to mention that this API service rating Donut and the seal is mentioned on each and every pack (of 3L each) as well as on the main carton (i.e. pack of 06 bottles of 3L each, and the same will go for their other products).

[anon35615524]

when I’m revving to 9000 rpm, I want an oil which provides best protection.

In my opinion, if you are revving engine up to this much rpms, then engine oil grade / viscosity will matter more than the brand itself. Still, Castrol, Valvoline, Mobil 1, etc. are some of the excellent brands. YOu can choose any brand, matching your budget, and requirements (i.e. best engine protection at vry high rpms).

[TypeA]

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[saqibhassan95]

http://www.syntheticwarehouse.com/api_licensing.htm
You can read @TypeA

[Xulfiqar]

Now - that you have nicely copied and pasted it.

I'll ask a very simple and typical Pakistani mentality question, why dont Amsoil become factory fill for Bugatti and other brands like Konigseiigg etc.

There are a bunch of blenders here in TX that are selling custom blended lubes and none have any API cert or ACEA rating, they dont have any licensing for transmission lubes either - their performance and reliability lies on their own claims only - no third party yardstick - imagine if your fuel was not measured in RON or AKI but just said - "behtreen pitrol" - Im sure you wont buy it.

so amsoils excerpt above that dealers cannot deny warranty if amsoil is used, I have real bad news for you - All manufacturers use trace chemicals in their lubes (from the add pack) - which they reverse check when a warranty claim comes in. And if its discovered that the failure is because of non-approved lube the dealership will refuse to honour the warranty and the customer will have to pay the bill or tow his/her half torn down car away.

[anon35615524]

The current specification is SJ/GF-2, and in July 2001 the first use of SL/GF-3 will begin.

This article seems quite old. Current criteria for Gasoline engines is API SN / SN Plus, with ILSAC GF-5. GF-4 and below are obsolete ( https://www.api.org/products-and-services/engine-oil/eolcs-categories-and-classifications/oil-categories#tab-ilsac ).

Denial of warranty coverage must be specifically due to an oil related failure.

But unfortunately, it does not happen. Lets take an example, 2020 Toyota Corolla, and following info taken from its owners / users manual as per https://www.toyota.com/t3Portal/document/om-s/OM02580U/pdf/OM02580U.pdf

Use Toyota approved “Toyota Genuine Motor Oil” or equivalent to satisfy the following grade and viscosity.
Oil grade: ILSAC GF-5 multigrade engine oil
Recommended viscosity: SAE 0W-20

The International Lubricant Specification Advisory Committee (ILSAC) Certification Mark is added to some oil containers to help you select the oil you should use.

Use Toyota approved “Toyota Genuine Motor Oil” or equivalent to satisfy the following grade and viscosity.
Oil grade: API SN/RC multigrade engine oil
Recommended viscosity: SAE 0W-16

API registered marks is added to some oil containers to help you select the oil you should

(Pages 526-528, also containing API service rating Donut and the seal mentioned on these pages)

[anon35615524]

API licensing of lubricants is voluntary, and it ensures automobile manufacturers and consumers that the product meets a set of minimum standards

Rightly said, and agreed, and that's why oil companies take certification / licensing from API, that their oils meet (or exceed) the criteria set by API, and have their donut / seal placed on their packs. Even if Amsoil's criteria exceed API's criteria, then what's the harm in taking certification / license from them?

API, ILSAC, ACEA, etc. are some of the International bodies / licensing authorities, and they have set some min. standardization criteria, for some reasons (i.e. details / licensing criteria should be uniform throughout the world and all companies on one page).

Even if their oils exceed API's criteria, then what's the harm in taking certification / licensing, and come at par with rest of the world's companies? International certifications are there for some reasons.

For those that feel pressured to use an API licensed product, we have them and encourage you to use them (XLT, XLF and PCO).

Do they offer fully synthetics 0w-16, 0w-20, 5w-20, 5w-30 grades in these series?

AMSOIL does offer better performing motor oils that are not API licensed

Ye to bilkul aisay hi hai, jaisay koi banda claim karay k main Harvard, MIT, Oxford, Cambridge, etc. k kisi b doctorate sey zyada competent and qualified hoon, but meray paás degree / certification nai hai, aur na hi main loón ga, aur na hi mujhay degree ki zrurat hai'

(Just imagine, will someone believe in such guy, and trust him to take important tasks? I think No)

[anon35615524]

online pakistani media channels are full of nonsense drumming negativity only

And I wish, I could close all such channels spreading panic, negativity, hatred, chaos, false news, etc. in the country.
(I have quit watching TV long ago)

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[mohammad672202]

Bro he does not cruise but he goes upto 9k RPM, he has a custom civic hatch with I think has an H22 with a lot of modifications under the hood. rest I guess he will also explain himself.

[mohammad672202]

I see, well @margallar bhai said that I could use havoline for 3k but that means more trips for an oil change, If i am to replace liqui moly, I would want an oil that at least goes up to 5k considering my car is a daily runner. currently I am going 7 to 7.5k kms max in change intervals.

[margallar]

i use cheapo mineral havoline at 3k and that too because the engine is an oil burner and had some old sludge from having a bad carburetor.

it is perfect for 5k if the engine is good, tbh I am already considering extending the interval because the last oil change removed 50% of the sludge.

[dms664]

Use total fully synthetic 9000 series oils and u r good to go till 6 or 7 k. with orig OEM filter

[dms664]

In fully synthetic total is the cheapest with good availability.

[haider_ciit]

Aoa.... has any one tried enoes japan oils here? which are marketed by attock petroleum.. they dont have API certification seal on their oil bottles either.. price wise they are not extra expensive

[anon35615524]

Mind sharing some details regarding your ride to get most relevant answers? Car's make, model, model year, genuine odo reading, engine, current oil being poured, etc.?

[anon35615524]

has any one tried enoes japan oils here?

W.S. Yes, I have tried it 2-3 times. One of the wonderful oils as per my experience, although slightly expensive.

[mohammad672202]

Toyota Corolla Altis 1.8 cruisetronic 1ZZFE
2010
227k approx
current oil from around 150k has been liqui moly mos2 10w40 previously 20w50 petromin was being used as it was dealership maintained.

[anon35615524]

Brother 5w-30, and 10w-30 are the recommended engine oil grades for this engine, by the OEM.

If your engine health is Perfect, compression is Great, there isn't any type of smoke, etc., I would suggest 5w-30, and then 10w-30. 10w-40 or above, only if these both OEM recommended grades do not suit.

If 5w-30, then Total Quartz 9000 Future series is best for bucks, change oil + genuine oil filter after every 5,000 Kms.

If there is some engine oil consumption, then it may be considered as normal for this engine.