Malaysian Airlines MH 370, cause of the crash: Foul play!

[lahori1990]

Now guys what do u say.....

Oh cmon not in Pakistan. Not againnnn!!.

[faiz.aslam.121]

Lmao. What a twist in the story. Seems like PIA needed another plane or...?

[majedkhan]

Malaysian airlines is a 5 star airline ! Ye hai uski halat !
Those people who keep cribbing about PIA shukar karein !
PIA despite all issues is better than many so called show off airlines.

[Farhansa]

LOL. taliban claimed responsibility news still to come

Yup landed in North Waristan.

[supereagle]

Malaysian airlines is a 5 star airline ! Ye hai uski halat !
Those people who keep cribbing about PIA shukar karein !
PIA despite all issues is better than many so called show off airlines.

Mohtaram Majed Khan Sahib,
Remember Capt. Irfan Faiz Chisti who was found drunk while operating in a PIA A310 cockpit in England. He has been shoved to the slammer for 9 good months in England. Once he crash landed a PIA Fokker in Chitral while under the influence of alcohol and nothing was done to bring him to account because 'yay Pakistan hay.' He is the son of Gen. Zia-ul-Haq's favourite general, Lt. General Faiz Ali Chistie.

Another scandal: Drunk PIA pilot arrested at Leeds – The Express Tribune

Here's is another pilot from PIA found drunk in cockpit in Oslo, Norway and was sent to jail for 6 months:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2006/09/19/Pilot-gets-6-months-for-being-drunk/UPI-55401158717608/

PIA is notorious about her cabin crew smuggling heroin into Europe. One steward's cap was stuffed with heroin and another stewardess's laptop was filled with it (heroin).

PIA crews flying off with drugs

Corruption is rampant in PIA. It loses Rs. 110 million (Rs. 11 crore) daily because its management is dishonest. If we shut it down, we will save Rs. 11 crore daily.

Let's hope we improve ourselves including PIA which is dying its own death.

Regards

[majedkhan]

Supereagle@ u r so right but brother na umeed nahi Hona ! PIA wl improve Insha Allah ! Problems Kis system mein nahi
My experience with PIA as a passenger has been amazing.
Fly with PIA fm newyork or Toronto and once the pilot says "Ladies & gentlemen fasten seat belts we r going home" ! Bas tears flow my eyes and paise purre Ho jaate hain

[faiz.aslam.121]

A young American undergraduate student at Stanford University has come up with a theory - yet to be verified by aviation experts - on the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 that has gone viral on the Web.
Andrew Aude, 20 and a computer science student, told The Straits Times that he "considered studying Aerospace engineering" as his father had an airline pilot licence and he grew up around aviation. When he was in middle school, he also attended the Boeing 787 roll-out premiere with his father.
In his Tumblr post, Aude cited a 2013 Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) Airworthiness Directive for the 777 which spotted a weakness in the plane.
According to the directive which he quotes, there had been a report of "cracking in the fuselage skin underneath the satellite communication (satcom) antenna adapter".
From this, he theorised that MH370 could have experienced the same issue, leading to the failure of satellite-based communications as well as to a slow decompression of the plane which left passengers unconscious and pilots disoriented. "If the decompression was slow enough, it’s possible the pilots did not realise to put on oxygen masks until it was too late," he wrote.
He also noted that the Boeing 777 aircraft does not deploy passenger oxygen masks until the cabin altitude reaches 13,500 feet. By then, passengers were likely to be unconscious if there was a slow decompression. Moreover, MH370 was a red-eye flight and most passengers would be trying to sleep, hence masking the effects of oxygen deprivation.
The autopilot function would have ensured that the plane maintained course and altitude before crashing into the East China Sea, the Sea of Japan or the Pacific Ocean, miles from the intensive search zone in the South China Sea where rescue efforts have been concentrated in the past few days.
This led him to conclude that "this was likely not an explosive decompression or inflight disintegration".
The theory adds to the list of possible explanations put forth by experts, including mechanical fault, mid-air explosion and sabotage. But none has been backed up by concrete evidence.
Aude wrote the piece, he said, "after discovering the FAA’s Airworthiness Directive on PPRUNE forums. In the same forum, I discovered how some of the 777’s radar systems depend on satcom and GPS. I considered these facts alongside the mobile phones ringing and the mumbling pilots, and I had come up with the proposed explanation".
PPRUNE is the Professional Pilots Rumour Network, an aviation website for airline pilots and aviation buffs.

[fazalwahab11375]

several accounts of planes that went missing and remain an unsolved mystery.

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[awais.9]

so its official now that they r blaming pakistan
read in article posted in Dawn today

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[fazalwahab11375]

where it is mentioned Pakistan or blaming Pakistan. Nothing official, Read the pictures you posted.. we need mirch masala on everything.. It just says near Pakistan in Indian ocean.. Not a single news paper or TV is saying its went into Pakistan. Lot of conspiracies at this time. Dawn has taken the news info from the article I posted in post#83 above.. Also look at post#97.. how difficult it is to locate this plane..

'Significant likelihood' plane at bottom of Indian Ocean - CNN.com Video

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so its official now that they r blaming pakistan
read in article posted in Dawn today

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[whiteangel]

Malaysian airlines is a 5 star airline ! Ye hai uski halat !
Those people who keep cribbing about PIA shukar karein !
PIA despite all issues is better than many so called show off airlines.

If you look at the top 50 airlines, Malaysian Airlines is ranked on number 31 in terms of capacity. PIA is nowhere in the list. They move more people, they fly more planes. PIA is sitting on the ground most of the time. Just because they lost one plane it does not make PIA safer or more reliable than Malaysian airlines.

[fahadwizz]

Last time i check, PIA has one of the lowest crash ratios.

Even though the crew is crap and the planes are Sh$t.

[vagabondpiper]

Switching off transporder doesn't make you go off radar . Transporder is just an additional aid which is used to differentiate a particular aircraft from others on a secondary radar . In aviation it's called IFF(identify friend or foe). Now malaysian aircraft going off secondary radar means transponder going off but to go off primary radar it should descend down to a pretty good altitude where radar waves were not able to pick it .

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[awais.9]

where it is mentioned Pakistan or blaming Pakistan. Nothing official, Read the pictures you posted.. we need mirch masala on everything.. It just says near Pakistan in Indian ocean.. Not a single news paper or TV is saying its went into Pakistan. Lot of conspiracies at this time. Dawn has taken the news info from the article I posted in post#83 above.. Also look at post#97.. how difficult it is to locate this plane..

'Significant likelihood' plane at bottom of Indian Ocean - CNN.com Video

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potentially reaching pak,indian ocean or mongolia,well if not a blame then pointing a finger atleast, like saying its a terrorist activity,hijacked n taken to pak/india, who knows they might as well say it like in this video they r talking about indian ocean

[vagabondpiper]

A young American undergraduate student at Stanford University has come up with a theory - yet to be verified by aviation experts - on the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 that has gone viral on the Web.
Andrew Aude, 20 and a computer science student, told The Straits Times that he "considered studying Aerospace engineering" as his father had an airline pilot licence and he grew up around aviation. When he was in middle school, he also attended the Boeing 787 roll-out premiere with his father.
In his Tumblr post, Aude cited a 2013 Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) Airworthiness Directive for the 777 which spotted a weakness in the plane.
According to the directive which he quotes, there had been a report of "cracking in the fuselage skin underneath the satellite communication (satcom) antenna adapter".
From this, he theorised that MH370 could have experienced the same issue, leading to the failure of satellite-based communications as well as to a slow decompression of the plane which left passengers unconscious and pilots disoriented. "If the decompression was slow enough, it?s possible the pilots did not realise to put on oxygen masks until it was too late," he wrote.
He also noted that the Boeing 777 aircraft does not deploy passenger oxygen masks until the cabin altitude reaches 13,500 feet. By then, passengers were likely to be unconscious if there was a slow decompression. Moreover, MH370 was a red-eye flight and most passengers would be trying to sleep, hence masking the effects of oxygen deprivation.
The autopilot function would have ensured that the plane maintained course and altitude before crashing into the East China Sea, the Sea of Japan or the Pacific Ocean, miles from the intensive search zone in the South China Sea where rescue efforts have been concentrated in the past few days.
This led him to conclude that "this was likely not an explosive decompression or inflight disintegration".
The theory adds to the list of possible explanations put forth by experts, including mechanical fault, mid-air explosion and sabotage. But none has been backed up by concrete evidence.
Aude wrote the piece, he said, "after discovering the FAA?s Airworthiness Directive on PPRUNE forums. In the same forum, I discovered how some of the 777?s radar systems depend on satcom and GPS. I considered these facts alongside the mobile phones ringing and the mumbling pilots, and I had come up with the proposed explanation".
PPRUNE is the Professional Pilots Rumour Network, an aviation website for airline pilots and aviation buffs.

This theory may be right but 777 must have flight director coupled with autopilot means without pilot input it will turn into next direction once it's overhead the checkpoint . In this scenario flight director should have taken the aircraft at destination . If you check the flightpath it had to go straight so if we assume that autopilot kept flying it at last direction for 4 hours how the hell no radar or agency picked it or tried to contact it once it entered in any control zone. Radar operator drives you nut if you enter in control zone without prior radio contact .

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[faiz.aslam.121]

Strange crap.

[huraiz]

No I don't think it's finger pointing.Basically they made map showing where plane could've reached of it carried on flying and one of the last points is Pakistan or Australia on other hand.
This is the map which created this hype.

[fazalwahab11375]

Two new possible flight paths end in ocean crashes

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[fazalwahab11375]

CNN's Martin Savidge recreates the timeline of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 inside a Boeing 777 cockpit simulator.

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[supereagle]

Switching off transporder doesn't make you go off radar . Transporder is just an additional aid which is used to differentiate a particular aircraft from others on a secondary radar . In aviation it's called IFF(identify friend or foe). Now malaysian aircraft going off secondary radar means transponder going off but to go off primary radar it should descend down to a pretty good altitude where radar waves were not able to pick it .

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Mohtaram vagabondpiper Sahib,
Here are my points regarding ATC techniques:

1. There are two types of radars, primary and secondary.

2. Primary Radar: This is the most traditional type of radar used in the military and not used in civil aviation, its only use in civil aviation today is as a backup and a complementary technology and not as a primary option for it does not serve the purpose of civil aviation, horses for courses actually.

3. Secondary Radar: This is the system which is transponder based and used almost solely in civil aviation for monitoring air traffic. It helps identify who you are when you are flying an aircraft. ATC (Air Traffic Control) knows which aircraft is which because of the Secondary Radar System.

4. Effects of switching off your transponder: You go off the secondary radar but you can still be picked up by a primary radar. ATC (Air Traffic Control) will not be able to see you since civil aviation systems don't use primary radars. Your blip on ATC screen will go off and you will become invisible to the poor air traffic controller. Now you are virtually invisible on ATC's screen. This is probably what happened to Malaysian Airline's MH 370.

5. ADS-B: This is the new system which will be introduced in the future: ADS-B (Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast). It will make today's radar redundant. North America plans to introduce it in its airspace by 2020. It is already in place in Australia, it started working there in December 2013.

Conclusion: If you switch off your transponder, you become invisible to ATC (Air Traffic Control) since they employ Secondary Radar technology and not primary one.

Regards.