Mineral Oil for Santro

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abart 2013-09-23 18:45:18 +0500 #1

i got recently santro 2006 GV club model, i have been using havoline 20-50 mineral oil , i want to know is there any other option available in Islamabad / Pindi market ? i do not want to use synthetic or semi-synthetic, i am looking for 20/50 mineral engine oil other than Havoline product!

GoodMan7 (GoodMan7) 2013-09-24 04:39:24 +0500 #2

brother,
what its clock shows the covered mileage?
It must be over 100k for sure or may be over 150k.
Anyway, dont use any synthetic or semi synthetic oil because your car is already having old-man-food (20/50 oil).

ok. For the time suppose that caltex, zic, shell, toyota, total, pso, etc. even open drum's open oil ARE NOT AVAILABLE IN THE MARKET.
Then what you will do?

Just want to emphasis that there are some imported companies in Pak. market who are offering earnestly good quality oil. Plz start trusting these companies and try to find

PERFORMA
LIQUI MOLY
SIM
etc.

These company's 20/50 are relevently better than local companies.

All the best.

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abart 2013-09-24 15:54:13 +0500 #3

around 90K mileage has been done, but i see slight decrease in oil after 3K of every milage when i go for oil change, i want to try another brand of thick engine oil for old EFI engine...

one quick question: what is the proof that any particular engine oil is 100% synthetic or mineral? is there written over on product info paper?

GoodMan7 (GoodMan7) 2013-09-24 16:38:01 +0500 #4

brother,
if your car reduces the oil then there could be only one reason or maybe more. You have to work it out and should seek advise of some wise mechanic.
But one thing i will emphasis strongly, plz change the darn oil company. You are using havoline, so give yourself a try to change the company.
I strongly recommend to try

PTT Performa 20/50 (its red color very thick oil) my previous car was very happy with it, really.

there is an absolutely new oil in the market introduced by LEEPON. Its name is SIM
Search it out to find SIM 20/50. Its very new oil in market but perfectly prepared by keeping the pakistani polution enviornment in view. Just try this at once and feel the difference. We are getting good feedback n comments feom the local consumers.

For your other question, replying separately.

Cheers n LOVE.

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PlayMaker (PlayMaker) 2013-09-24 16:51:15 +0500 #5

If you want to use good mineral then use ZIC A+ or Petron from toyota if you are on petrol or Gazon if you are on CNG.

Using Zic for many years and my engine is happy though car has crossed 100k but it still gets acceleration if you want it to without any smoke!

GoodMan7 (GoodMan7) 2013-09-24 16:57:29 +0500 #6

Brother,
remember base oil of all types of engine oils are same. Just different companies using different formulas to make it synthetic, semi synthetic or etc.

For example, the crude oil is only of one type of oil that we are getting from earth. But from the same crude oil we are getting/extraxting
petrol
diesel
hi octane
air plane fuel
rocket's fuel
ship's fuel
and many many other rypes of oils/fuels.

Similarly, the base oil is same which all companies using for engine oils. But they are just using different formulas to market them and sell it.
Lets take an example of oil 5/10w-30
(Suppose)
toyota's price is rs. 600/l for this oil.
Havoline selling 580/l
zic selling 610/l
total selling 570/l
leepon selling 590/l
performa selling 615/l
mobil1 selling 900/l
liqui moly selling 850/l
etc.
Etc.

basically Oil's viscosity is same, but different companies using different formulas/chemicals/solvents/catalysts etc to make its life more effective and more durable.

hope you can find the answere of your question within above technically stated explanation.

Cheers n LOVE.

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abart 2013-09-24 20:14:00 +0500 #7

isn't ZIC A+ fully synthetic? and very light i don't think it is a heavy oil, i think it suits well for new cars!

abart 2013-09-24 20:22:49 +0500 #8

GoodMan7;4063403:

brother,
if your car reduces the oil then there could be only one reason or maybe more. You have to work it out and should seek advise of some wise mechanic.
But one thing i will emphasis strongly, plz change the darn oil company. You are using havoline, so give yourself a try to change the company.
I strongly recommend to try

PTT Performa 20/50 (its red color very thick oil) my previous car was very happy with it, really.

or

there is an absolutely new oil in the market introduced by LEEPON. Its name is SIM
Search it out to find SIM 20/50. Its very new oil in market but perfectly prepared by keeping the pakistani polution enviornment in view. Just try this at once and feel the difference. We are getting good feedback n comments feom the local consumers.

For your other question, replying separately.

Cheers n LOVE.

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Yes brother you are right, my car engine is perfectly fine, no smoke but still i see reduction of engine oil... mechanic says engine pistons are weak but i wont believe it until i do all r&d myself. I am looking for high density heavy oil and first priority is it should be imported one not local assembled oil product, please guide from where i can get PTT Performa 20 / 50 or LEEPN from here pindi / isb market or can you share any URL to get more info about these products.

Thanks

abart 2013-09-24 20:30:01 +0500 #9

Thanks, I got it but again the question is if i see a galen of Oil and over it there is 20/50 words written! what does it mean? will it be mineral/synthetic/semi-synthetic?

PlayMaker (PlayMaker) 2013-09-25 01:18:14 +0500 #10

Though its a light oil but it isn't causing any trouble for my 10 years old car..... About synthetic I didn't know. If this is synthetic then try ZIC oil in yellow bottle that may be non-synthetic. (I forgot exact name.)

GoodMan7 (GoodMan7) 2013-09-25 07:55:01 +0500 #11

Brother,
Actually its v. long discussion, but I've a short answer as follows

Thicker oils like 15-40, 20-50, 20-60, etc. are NOT Synthetic oils. But different companies use different words to attract customers, like they will write on 20/50 oil as, "SYNTHETIC FORMULA", or "WITH FULLY SYNTHETIC TECHNOLOGY", or "SYNTHETIC MANUFACTURING FORMULA", ETC. ETC.
But infact we all know that 20/50 is not a Synthetic oil.

For your ref,

usually Fully Synthetic oils are v. thin. Like 0-20, 5-20, 0-30, etc.

Semi synthetic oils or partially synthetic oils are like 5/40, 10/30, etc.

There is no hard & fast rule as described above to show or to write. But this is generally what is happening here. Even Performa making Fully Synthetic oil but with 0/40 viscosity.

THE OIL COMPANIES ALWAYS HIDE TO MENTION THAT EITHER ITS 5% SYNTHETIC, 10% SYNTHETIC, OR 50% SYNTHETIC, and hence making money like hot cakes.

Cheers & LOVE.