Motorcycle Engine Oils

[abdulrehmanrauf]

Yesterday after 2100kms running, I did the first oil change for Liqui Moly 4T 20W 50. The snap you can see below.

Color darkens a bit and had more life still. I got it double check from two mechanics. They were saying that the oil still in good condition, in color and slippery as it should. He took some oil and rub between fingers and he was quite satisfied and surprised with the quality.

But one of mechanic told me to change it any how. 2100 kms running in a bike is more than enough. Though he agreed that oil is still in good shape. But he was saying that it is due to your engine condition that it is clean better you should keep changing the oil at max 2000kms.

In this case I also agree to that mechanic. Because the money I spent has been rewarded very well, my engine is saved, my ride become lot pleasant.

Today, the Liqui Moly 20W - 50 4T covered a mileage of 1200kms in my Sprinter. You can see the snap below for its condition at 1200 kms running.

@1200 kms running

@2100kms running

Physically, the oil is still fresh and viscous. I also asked my mechanic to check oil condition and he was quite surprise by the quality of this oil even after 1200kms running. He was simply not hesitant in saying that you can easily and safely (with no risk) stretch this oil till 2000 or 2500 kms. Though the oil dealer claimed 4000kms but I am NOT taking the risk as per our traffic conditions.

There are some other factors for me in getting this good conditioned oil. My Sprinter engine is cleaned Ma sha Allah say so it always used to give me oil in this color when I was changing the Castrol Active at 1000kms mark. Secondly Sprinter has oil filter so definitely it is cleaning the oil.

My other PW fellows who are using LM, I would like to tell them please do not fully rely on my feedback. You should also provide your feedback especially one who owns bike withOUT oil filter like Honda or bikes with older engines.

In the end, I have no issue in changing this oil at 2000 kms mark because then it will fully justified its price. 2000km @ 700Rs-(LM oil) is very much equal to 2000kms @ 570(260+260)Rs (Castrol Active).

And its not just the price. With LM (even after 1200kms) you are getting a smooth, sound, vibration less ride. Soft gear shifting, no engine tiredness on long routes, no heating issue, greater pick, more fuel efficiency (I've observed extra 2-3 kms running per liter) , greater engine protection. And I think this is certainly not a 'Ghatay ka soda'.

Again, the above is an honest feedback withOUT any exaggeration. I will be getting my second LM bottle soon because I'm very happy and I have no issue in spending 700Rs when I can get oils in just 260Rs.

Best regards,

[moons]

well i did put Kixx back again and reconfirmed my doubts
It's a shi* oil for GS clutch. Except this clutch issue, it's a fine oil in every way
So bye bye to Kixx forever.

Back to SGO for now. Will try some other oil at next oil change. Have Castrol Activ 4T in mind.

Summary of different oils i tried in GS
SGO: good oil for 600-700Km then it looses its viscosity.
Havoline: good oil for barely 300-400Km i would say. Degrades very quickly.
Kixx: Messes up the clutch of GS. In cold engine, behaves like you are putting gears without pressing clutch. Endurance very good compared to other local oils. Bike engine also feels silent and good.
Zic 4T: Too thin, feels like there is water inside the engine instead of oil. Way too loud engine and somewhat jerky ride.
AX-5: High possibility of getting fake. Inspite of being suspicious, i purchased and it was behaving just like any oil used more than 1000Km would do.

but i have no issue with kixx bro.kahin ap k clutch ki adjstmnt na honey wali ho???.lahore se nkla tu 900km chali thi bike kixx dalney k bad wapsi pe 1200 ho gai but abi tak fit ha MashaALLAH kixx.

[abdulrehmanrauf]

Just to add few more lines to the feedback. I have started to feel even better ride after pouring second bottle of Liqui Moly. The first bottle tried successfully for setting in. After 200kms running, on the second bottle, I think oil is now showing its true color. Never experienced before such a smooth, powerful and silent ride. Bike is now on just a touch of accelerator.

Feeling very happy

Salute to Germans brains.

[ammarzahid]

Just to add few more lines to the feedback. I have started to feel even better ride after pouring second bottle of Liqui Moly. The first bottle tried successfully for setting in. After 200kms running, on the second bottle, I think oil is now showing its true color. Never experienced before such a smooth, powerful and silent ride. Bike is now on just a touch of accelerator.

Feeling very happy

Salute to Germans brains.

Don't know if it's the oil or what but in 3rd gear the bike goes above 80km/h on the speedo, previously it was screaming for 4th just before the 80 mark. Best oil for bikes in pakistan!(at a reasonable price)

[gull_s_777]

Just to add few more lines to the feedback. I have started to feel even better ride after pouring second bottle of Liqui Moly. The first bottle tried successfully for setting in. After 200kms running, on the second bottle, I think oil is now showing its true color. Never experienced before such a smooth, powerful and silent ride. Bike is now on just a touch of accelerator.

Feeling very happy

Salute to Germans brains.

Don't know if it's the oil or what but in 3rd gear the bike goes above 80km/h on the speedo, previously it was screaming for 4th just before the 80 mark. Best oil for bikes in pakistan!(at a reasonable price)

Bhai ye engine oil hai ya Jet oil???? :o

[ammarzahid]

Bhai ye engine oil hai ya Jet oil???? :o

Dont know, maybe the oil is reaching speedometer cable too:p

[SyedMoazzam]

Bhai ye engine oil hai ya Jet oil???? :o

Kindly email liquimoly germany for such queries(H)

[camry47]

kahan mileyga main mujhe nahin mil rha hai karachi main

[VCheng]

The proper oil rating for 4-stroke motorcycle with wet clutches is the JASO MA standard. That is important.

http://www.oilspecifications.org/articles/JASO_MA_JASO_MB.php

[dr.omair]

Dont know, maybe the oil is reaching speedometer cable too:p

Lol

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[abdulrehmanrauf]

Here is the map - https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bikes-3-wheelers/221572-initial-feedback-liqui-moly-racing-4t-20w-50-available-n-nazimabad-hyderi#post4043202

Let me know if you still unable to locate the shop. You can contact me at 0333-3233547.

kahan mileyga main mujhe nahin mil rha hai karachi main

[abdulrehmanrauf]

Bro, try it yourself you will get your answer from your bike

Bhai ye engine oil hai ya Jet oil???? :o

[dr.omair]

Kindly help me out here
Ive been using havoline in my gs150 from the beginning. I always drain the oil at 1000km interval n it comes out clean...
.my bike has done 9000km so far.... I m interested in shifting to liquimoly now
The shop in muslim town morh lahore is offering 10w40 n 20w50
My question is
1. Which grade oil should I go for considering that I drive on low rpms n that winter season is coming
2. What is its drain interval? The shopkeeper said I could use it upto 2500-3000 km
3. What is its true market price? I've been quoted rs.800

Regards

[nom125]

Kindly help me out here
Ive been using havoline in my gs150 from the beginning. I always drain the oil at 1000km interval n it comes out clean...
.my bike has done 9000km so far.... I m interested in shifting to liquimoly now
The shop in muslim town morh lahore is offering 10w40 n 20w50
My question is
1. Which grade oil should I go for considering that I drive on low rpms n that winter season is coming
2. What is its drain interval? The shopkeeper said I could use it upto 2500-3000 km
3. What is its true market price? I've been quoted rs.800

Regards

It`s true price is 650, however you can get it at minimum price of 700 and also mention you were referred from pakwheels

[dr.omair]

It`s true price is 650, however you can get it at minimum price of 700 and also mention you were referred from pakwheels

And what grade should I go for? 10w40 or 20w50 ? N what about drain interval?

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[nom125]

And what grade should I go for? 10w40 or 20w50 ? N what about drain interval?

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Brother both 10W40 and 20W50 is available(but 20W50 is best for local conditions and local bikes, as it is mineral oil and not synthetic oil)
Drain interval should be from 2000km to 2500 km depending on how you ride your bike(normal or fast)
Note: If you have never used Racing 4T before, then first oil should get drained at max interval of 1500 km, then after that change it regularly at 2000-2500 km and also change oil filter every 4000-5000 km max.

[dr.omair]

JazakAllah brother

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[devilskreed]

Kindly help me out here
Ive been using havoline in my gs150 from the beginning. I always drain the oil at 1000km interval n it comes out clean...
.my bike has done 9000km so far.... I m interested in shifting to liquimoly now
The shop in muslim town morh lahore is offering 10w40 n 20w50
My question is
1. Which grade oil should I go for considering that I drive on low rpms n that winter season is coming
2. What is its drain interval? The shopkeeper said I could use it upto 2500-3000 km
3. What is its true market price? I've been quoted rs.800

Regards

just buy LM..its drain interval varies with bike's requirements..as a rule of thumb 500km lower than the recommended drain interval of manufacturer.
True MSRP for LM is 650 rupees not a penny more

An oil which does not change colour with time is fake.it needs to turn black

[Eur0_2]

kaya LM winter mn b theeek ha...????????

[SyedMoazzam]

kaya LM winter mn b theeek ha...????????

Yes i also have this concern