Motorcycle Engine Oils

[Eur0_2]

liqui moly's oil is good.
You are changing it after how long? I believe it will peform pretty well during winter.

However, if you are willing to change then try

Speed1
price is 470/liter.
20/50
ptt lubricants

Or

sim3
price is 460/liter.
20/50
leepon

both of these oils are as good as liqui moly.

tnx...but
actually .i don't wanna use 20/50 in winter .....

[sherry56]

Ok frnds which oil to b used in cg euro 2 during winter other than Lm 20w50? Memberz having euro2 plz share ur experience and suggestions

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[gull_s_777]

Gull bhai waiting for your feedback about liqui moly

and one request try to keep an good eye on bikes performance with current local oil
and try to feel the difference when using liqui moly an engine oil can't really boost the performance
but really the amount of difference we feel using liqui moly is really remarkable

me too can't wait to try it out. But not using bike much these days so it might take some time to hit 4000Km mark
Well prepared to try it out with new oil filter

[himmi_Pak]

MASHALLAH is one word for u

Yarr i know all about LM products /ranges..I use LM in my bike aswell as car.

Bhai meri post ghor say parhain..The only oil of brand LM available in pakistan for motorcycles is LM racing 4t 20w50..Also what you also have to consider is the general usage and the motorcycle type(touring,racing,commuting),for commuters they are cheap rides and should be dealt accordingly..The synthetic oils are expensive and are meant for expensive rides..A 5w40 fully synth bike oil would cost around 1800 pkr..Are you willing to drain such an expensive oil after mere 1-1.5 k kilometers?THe answer is NO..For commuting bikes there is no need whatsoever to invest in expensive oil brands..Price/performance factor should always be considered in this regard where LM 20w50 mineral fits well..If you have a cbr or gsx then surely one must invest in a synth..After all you need to protect your investment.

Also regarding synthetic oils as they are artificially synthesized from chemical compounds rather than crude oil..They are popular for maintaining their viscosity for higher intervals and are used specifically for longer draining intervals..

A synthetic oil has 5-6k kms + drain interval..Now for our local bikes max allowed drain intervals are 2-2.5k kms (excluding 70s they have 1k)..SO tell me bro you buy a costly synthetic oil for 1.8k rupees which has a capacity to last 6k kms only to drain after 2k kilometers because the bike is not designed for longer drains..IS that not a waste??

It is always advised to gain some knowledge beforehand discussing about an topic..ANd yes synthetic oils will leak in older engines.The oil will aid in in cracking gasket and seals..

Fully synthetic oils are an over kill for commuting bikes..Max i would recommend are semi synthetics..
@himmi_Pak i know about LM long before you came to know about the brand..Infact i am amongst the very few pwheelers who introduced this brand on Pwheels..I know which brands of LM are available in Pakistan and i advise wrt availability..Racing 4t 10w40 semi synth was available when the product was initially launched in pakistan but was discontinued due to low demand..

the LM products you mentioned are not available in Pakistan..You never understood my suggestions in the first place..

[himmi_Pak]

Galti ho gayi janab

balkay ghustakhi hogi apkay hazoor. edit kr detay hain janab

amjad bhai ap se pehlay sorry apki thread hay
@syed Moazzam Professor shaib of LM im not claiming a knowledge base. im just discussing , im a student of LM products but

one product is not available in pakistan doesnt mean that mineral oil are better than synthetic one

this was my point
anyways here discussion is meaning less

Allah k banday ye wala aur 10w-40 wala available nai hay Pakistan may yar
Kyu bar bar yo wali pics laga rhay ho
Ap say zyada shock hay mujhe ye oils apni bike may use karnay ka magar kai dafa baat ki hay LM shop walay say magar wo nai mangwa kar daita ye oils:S

Aur bhai @himmi_Pak aap say zyada knowledge hay hamay liquimoly k products ka
Magar jo products yaha available he nai app baar baar kyu un ki pics laga rhay ho yaha
Hmay achi tarah pata hay k LM bikes k liay semi synthetic say lay kar synthetic aur fully synthetic engine oils offer karta hay worlwide but not in pakistan

[himmi_Pak]

afsoos janab apki soach per who is crapping the thread ?

if sharing a thing is crapping then afreen on you.

Allah k banday ye wala aur 10w-40 wala available nai hay Pakistan may yar
Kyu bar bar yo wali pics laga rhay ho
Ap say zyada shock hay mujhe ye oils apni bike may use karnay ka magar kai dafa baat ki hay LM shop walay say magar wo nai mangwa kar daita ye oils:S

Aur bhai @himmi_Pak aap say zyada knowledge hay hamay liquimoly k products ka
Magar jo products yaha available he nai app baar baar kyu un ki pics laga rhay ho yaha
Hmay achi tarah pata hay k LM bikes k liay semi synthetic say lay kar synthetic aur fully synthetic engine oils offer karta hay worlwide but not in pakistan

Aur ha yr baat yad rakho k Haji John and @devilskreed were among the first ones to introduce liqui moly at pakwheels so do not brag about you having all the knowledge in the world
Do not crap the thread @himmi_Pak
just for your knowledge in single cylinder OHV and OHC engines the debris from engine operation is so much that you can not ectend your drain interval beyond 1000Km, and with oil filter like in my GS beyond 1500Km
these oils are meant to be used in latest bike engines which are designed for using fully/synthetic oils Take a break kid

[SyedMoazzam]

Galti ho gayi janab

balkay ghustakhi hogi apkay hazoor. edit kr detay hain janab

amjad bhai ap se pehlay sorry apki thread hay
@syed Moazzam Professor shaib of LM im not claiming a knowledge base. im just discussing , im a student of LM products but

one product is not available in pakistan doesnt mean that mineral oil are better than synthetic one

this was my point
anyways here discussion is meaning less

Sorry for the harsh words bro but since these products are not available in this country then there is no point in discussing these;)
And yes you are absolutely right that synthetic products are far better than mineral ones but the point to note that that these 1987 OHV and OHC engines are not build for Fully synthetic products
No matter how much expensive oil you use in these $hitty engines, you will have to change the oil at max 2000K mark as single cylinder engine produce so much debris from wear and tear that oil will start to loose its characteristics after 2K mark
And once again pardon for harsh words(A)

[devilskreed]

@SyedMoazzam Jnab aap to aag bagolay ho gayay ..You are on fire..Barfani today ki zarurat hai
@himmi_Pak Koi baat nai lala..Ghalti hoti rehti hai..Ab aik botal sting ki enjoy karain and chillax..Lays french cheese +Sting = good combo (from experience )

[SyedMoazzam]

@SyedMoazzam Jnab aap to aag bagolay ho gayay ..You are on fire..Barfani today ki zarurat hai
@himmi_Pak Koi baat nai lala..Ghalti hoti rehti hai..Ab aik botal sting ki enjoy karain and chillax..Lays french cheese +Sting = good combo (from experience )

Ha yar i already apologized to the kid
i really went overboard
Sting to nai i would gladly enjoy pulpy with Tehzeeb small pizza:)

[himmi_Pak]

muje aik cheez samaj nahi ayi janab

ap ne kaha bar bar k im posting liqui moly ki syntehtic products

ap kahien pay tu nahi krtay PW server k charges lagta tu kuch aisa hi hay

aur kisi ko etaraz nahi hua ---- MASHALLAH

Allah k banday ye wala aur 10w-40 wala available nai hay Pakistan may yar
Kyu bar bar yo wali pics laga rhay ho
Ap say zyada shock hay mujhe ye oils apni bike may use karnay ka magar kai dafa baat ki hay LM shop walay say magar wo nai mangwa kar daita ye oils:S

Aur bhai @himmi_Pak aap say zyada knowledge hay hamay liquimoly k products ka
Magar jo products yaha available he nai app baar baar kyu un ki pics laga rhay ho yaha
Hmay achi tarah pata hay k LM bikes k liay semi synthetic say lay kar synthetic aur fully synthetic engine oils offer karta hay worlwide but not in pakistan

Sorry for the harsh words bro but since these products are not available in this country then there is no point in discussing these;)
And yes you are absolutely right that synthetic products are far better than mineral ones but the point to note that that these 1987 OHV and OHC engines are not build for Fully synthetic products
No matter how much expensive oil you use in these $hitty engines, you will have to change the oil at max 2000K mark as single cylinder engine produce so much debris from wear and tear that oil will start to loose its characteristics after 2K mark
And once again pardon for harsh words(A)

[himmi_Pak]

as per syed moazzam standards

you are crapping the thread

these lines of text are not available in pakistan and doesnt conform the topic

@SyedMoazzam
ZINDABAD

@SyedMoazzam Jnab aap to aag bagolay ho gayay ..You are on fire..Barfani today ki zarurat hai
@himmi_Pak Koi baat nai lala..Ghalti hoti rehti hai..Ab aik botal sting ki enjoy karain and chillax..Lays french cheese +Sting = good combo (from experience )

[himmi_Pak]

i think @amjad365 has created this thread for engine oil discussion , review and experience

if we are discussing it then dont joke in between "that u are crapping the thread and blah blah blah" just grow up

this is a thread for discussion and we are not here for personal reasons

lets discuss the topic and around engine oil thanks

[himmi_Pak]

ok experts here is a question

shell ax 5 is synthetic or semi synthetic??

p.s syed moazzam this is not a crap so dont mention it thanks

[uk4455]

that is universal fact that synthetic engine oil is far better in performance then those with mineral oil

the liqui moly company say so but you know MR HIMMI_PAK the thing isnt available in pakistan

its costly. here we have 2 number engine oil every where 80-90% people use them

oh my GOD

why are you discussing @himmi_pak ? no one gonna listen !we will stick to what "ostad" (DEVILSKREED) has told us that is mineral

the experience the guy has is amazing. u dare not to argue with him.he talks logical and to the mark

@syed moazzam is really funny guy donot take him serious.he just do this for purpose' shugal

if you just observe his like pattern .you will came to a affiliation stop.

he will kill you if next time you post those crappy products .which will leak the seals(biggest joke)

@himmi_pak you are discussing generally and they put in pakistan context.so ALLAH k bunday rely on there knowledge

they are far wise educated and senior guys.dont mess with them.they know what even liqui moly company doesnt know

so moral of story neither devilskreed nor respected anti crapping personnel syed moazzam doesnt get you what you wanna say

and neither you got what they wanna say

THE END

[uk4455]

HAVOLINE 20 W 40

SHELL AX 15W40 (yellow bottle -get from metro or shell pump)

Ok frnds which oil to b used in cg euro 2 during winter other than Lm 20w50? Memberz having euro2 plz share ur experience and suggestions

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[devilskreed]

Finding Ax-5 in pindi is pain in the butt..It is a good oil..Metro stocks em

AX-5 is mineral

Zic 4t 10w40 is synthetic,Kixx 20w50 is semi synthetic

[uk4455]

@sherry56

ax-5 is easily found in engine oil section of metro in 1 litre packing

dont go for zic synthetic it will leak the seal under the observation of ostad

Finding Ax-5 in pindi is pain in the butt..It is a good oil..Metro stocks em

AX-5 is mineral

Zic 4t 10w40 is synthetic,Kixx 20w50 is semi synthetic

[SyedMoazzam]

Zic is just bakwaas do not use it
As per @moons kixx is a very good oil

[SyedMoazzam]

@syed moazzam is really funny guy donot take him serious.he just do this for purpose' shugal

if you just observe his like pattern .you will came to a affiliation stop.

$hit man i am turning into a Xarak
Help somebody;)

[SyedMoazzam]

you will came to a affiliation stop.

What is the meaning of these words
Please elaborate janab(A)