Motorcycle Engine Oils

[786apps]

salam guyz.
two days beforre i have changed oil in my new bike gd 110s.zic m7 10w 40
vibration incresed???
its in 740 km.1st time i changed oil at 220km than 700 km both time i am using zic 10w 40sj
but this time i am using Sl grade with new packing off zic oil.
any idea?
thanks

API SF/SG is recommended in mannual of gd110 therfore its better to avoid SL grade

[devilskreed]

So couldnt get my hands on LM today and bike badly needed a tune up,so got Zic 4T semisynthetic VHVI one the silver bottle with blue sticker.Lets see how the oil fares.

[altisdualvvti]

So couldnt get my hands on LM today and bike badly needed a tune up,so got Zic 4T semisynthetic VHVI one the silver bottle with blue sticker.Lets see how the oil fares.

Yestarday I changed the oli of my bike also to LM formula super 20-50 from i-8 markaz and they have many bottles of street4t available in 10-40 and 20-50 there u can go there for buying LM.
By the way from where u buy LM products as u r in rwp.

[devilslayer]

ok... i went through all 83 pages and em more confused. usin Havoline in my bike since day first and bike is nw 13K driven, a time came in this thread when i wz 100% convinced that LM is the best oil and i shud change frm Havoline to LM bt as the thread passes more n more oils jumped in like Kixx, Valvoline ZIC and some othr Spanish Arabic etc etc brands, So nw em totally confused, Should i srtikc to Havoline or change it to LM or any other and i dn wana do any experiments?? Sincere Advice needed here plz, btw i dn use buke mch, like 20/30Km max in a Week or so

[Haji__John]

Use LM and be tension free

[devilskreed]

Yestarday I changed the oli of my bike also to LM formula super 20-50 from i-8 markaz and they have many bottles of street4t available in 10-40 and 20-50 there u can go there for buying LM.
By the way from where u buy LM products as u r in rwp.

Meray bhai i used to study at NUST,it was easy for me buying a few bottles from i8 as the distance was minimal.I reside in pindi bahria town so cant go to I8 markaz for lube.Thereis a LM shop in GT road Pearl Lube which has complete LM inventory.It was closed on friday and i didnt want to w8 so bought Zic instead.

[devilskreed]

ok... i went through all 83 pages and em more confused. usin Havoline in my bike since day first and bike is nw 13K driven, a time came in this thread when i wz 100% convinced that LM is the best oil and i shud change frm Havoline to LM bt as the thread passes more n more oils jumped in like Kixx, Valvoline ZIC and some othr Spanish Arabic etc etc brands, So nw em totally confused, Should i srtikc to Havoline or change it to LM or any other and i dn wana do any experiments?? Sincere Advice needed here plz, btw i dn use buke mch, like 20/30Km max in a Week or so

Bike make/model?

LM is the best option

[altisdualvvti]

Meray bhai i used to study at NUST,it was easy for me buying a few bottles from i8 as the distance was minimal.I reside in pindi bahria town so cant go to I8 markaz for lube.Thereis a LM shop in GT road Pearl Lube which has complete LM inventory.It was closed on friday and i didnt want to w8 so bought Zic instead.

OK bro I see

[altisdualvvti]

Meray bhai i used to study at NUST,it was easy for me buying a few bottles from i8 as the distance was minimal.I reside in pindi bahria town so cant go to I8 markaz for lube.Thereis a LM shop in GT road Pearl Lube which has complete LM inventory.It was closed on friday and i didnt want to w8 so bought Zic instead.

How's your zic going and which oli grade u brought and plz a little comparison with LM

[altisdualvvti]

OK guys this question just popped in my mind 4 days ago I went for tuning my bike and the mechanic said that as bike is driven 8000+km so it requries carberator cleaning but as I read sone where on PW that if the bike is going fine than there's no need of opening carb but the mechanic was insisting me to do carb cleaning but I said no to him and said him to do other things which r included in tuning and after he did I came home and searched about carb cleaners and found 2 common brands for carb cleaners one is liquimoly and the other is STP but as I never experienced any of these products so can anyone tell me that is it worth purchasing it and does it works as liquimoly sites says that u can pour this cleaner into petrol tank and it cleans the carb.also tell me about prices of both and which one to use.

[devilskreed]

How's your zic going and which oli grade u brought and plz a little comparison with LM

Actually its very difficult to say as the bike has clocked only 25kms on new oil(Zic 4T semi synth 20w40).Gear shifting is smooth,what i am more interested in is the bikes performance after it crosses the 700 km mark as most of the oils degrade by 50% at this range and shear down from 20w40 to 20w30.

LM maintains its viscosity for 1000+ kms.One can easily stretch it till 1.5k kms

On the other hand engine starts whining on local oils after 800,the smoothness vanishes and the engine is begging for an oil change.That was the case with AHL oil.

For CG/125 cc bikes LM is by far the best choice.

For GS 150/GD 110 LM 10w40 semi synthetic

For 70cc bikes any 20w40 oil to be drained before 1000kms( i dont have much experience with locals as my bike was on LM)

Pridor and other 100cc bikes LM is great,locals can be used as replacement.

Also note that LM is a thick oil(true 20w50 on paper),it offers protection at the expense of acceleration/speed as compare to local 20w50/20w40 oils and one might feel that the bike is heavy or is not quick enough as compared to 10w40.So its up to the user to decide whether he aims for performance or protection.

Those interested in performance 10w40

Those interested in protection 20w50

[umerchaudhary]

In 70cc bikes 20 w 50 grade oil good for new bikes or old bikes ? And if in old bikes suggest mileage ( mean to say bike kitna runing kar chuke ho ? )

[devilskreed]

In 70cc bikes 20-50 grade oil good for new bikes or old bikes ?

20w50 is a great choice for old bikes but a word of caution.If someone has clocked 40k kms on 20w50 and he then pours a 10w40 bike will emit smoke and it would be detrimental for engine

[umerchaudhary]

@devilskreed thanks. So but if we use 20w50 in new bikes is it bad for bike ? If yes how extent.

[devilskreed]

@devilskreed thanks. So but if we use 20w50 in new bikes is it bad for bike ? If yes how extent.

No its the other way around.Its the usual practice which people do in cars.They use the standard recommended grade advised by the manufacturer.Like 10w40 for honda civic ex 98 afther clocking 100k kms people switch to 20w50 to retain the old engine.The problem is if a car starts emitting smoke using a higher grade oil helps in reducing smoke/maintaining pressure in the combustion chamber,prevents blowback and helps seal the rings(prevents gap)..

As our motorcycles have single cylinder blocks,the chamber is not intricate so its better to use a relatively thick oil which helps in protecting engine from wear and tear.Oil has to work 4 times more in bikes as compared to cars so a thick oil is better as it degrades slowly.

One more thing to add is that oil drain interval depends on 3 variables.The number of miles clocked,number of month oil stays in the block and last but not the least your driving style agressive/calm.LM 20w50 in CG 125 if ra**d like hell would loose viscosity at 1.1k kms but the same oil if driven with care can easily last upto 1.6/1.7k kms.Oil should be drained earlier than usual in summers/withing city commutes with frequent stops.

[devilskreed]

OK guys this question just popped in my mind 4 days ago I went for tuning my bike and the mechanic said that as bike is driven 8000+km so it requries carberator cleaning but as I read sone where on PW that if the bike is going fine than there's no need of opening carb but the mechanic was insisting me to do carb cleaning but I said no to him and said him to do other things which r included in tuning and after he did I came home and searched about carb cleaners and found 2 common brands for carb cleaners one is liquimoly and the other is STP but as I never experienced any of these products so can anyone tell me that is it worth purchasing it and does it works as liquimoly sites says that u can pour this cleaner into petrol tank and it cleans the carb.also tell me about prices of both and which one to use.

LM motorcycle carb cleaner is not available in Pakistan.I got my carby cleaned at 14k kms.If the bike is giving good avg no need for cleaning.Install an inline fuel filter .

[Farhansa]

ok... i went through all 83 pages and em more confused. usin Havoline in my bike since day first and bike is nw 13K driven, a time came in this thread when i wz 100% convinced that LM is the best oil and i shud change frm Havoline to LM bt as the thread passes more n more oils jumped in like Kixx, Valvoline ZIC and some othr Spanish Arabic etc etc brands, So nw em totally confused, Should i srtikc to Havoline or change it to LM or any other and i dn wana do any experiments?? Sincere Advice needed here plz, btw i dn use buke mch, like 20/30Km max in a Week or so

R u facing any issue with havoline?
Why u want to change brand?

[altisdualvvti]

LM motorcycle carb cleaner is not available in Pakistan.I got my carby cleaned at 14k kms.If the bike is giving good avg no need for cleaning.Install an inline fuel filter .

Sorry what is inline fuel filter? And my bike sometime requires 4-5 kicks to starts and some time does little missing also when u leave the race from high rpms other than that topspeed and fuel economy is good.And what about STP carb cleaner. And my question remains un answered does these cleaners works or should I need to open carb

[devilslayer]

Bike make/model?

LM is the best option

Sorry i forgot to mention Bike's make n model, its 10 MOdel CG 125

[tahirahmad13]

Has anybody experienced Liq Molly 10w-40 4t? how's its performance?