Motorcycle Engine Oils

[altisdualvvti]

@altisdualvvti, brother, it can be a all weather oil.

But what will you do if the engine does not like it. Fresh engines especially from Suzuki we have GS, GD, Sprinter / Raider do not like thicker oils. It has been observed by many here and all are of the same opinion that these engines do not like thicker grade and 10W-40 grade is more suitable. Yeh aik baat hoi. Now if we talk about hot weather and older engines then 20W-50 is the most recommended here.

OK bro but 20-50 is fine for me as I own 70cc bike

[altisdualvvti]

Liqui moly guys knows better about their products are are definitely much more expert than us
but for pakistani conditions and our practical experience as member's like Gull bhai & me i can say
viscosity grade 20w40 oil is all rounder in pakistani conditions it work very good in summer & winter too
atlas honda also says & recommend to use 20w40 oil as its all rounder in pakistani conditions

Bro that's mean no option of 20-40W for me as liquimoly doesn't have 20-40W

[amjad635]

if you can manage 2 minute warm up time than continue with it
waise no matter what oil grade you use its recommended to warm up
bike some while i feel minimum 20-30 sec is good to do even if its summer

i am using zic 20w40 engine oil and i am highly satisfied with it
local engine oils are not that bad specially i like zic oil as i have
gotten best performance from zic they cost very low as compare
to LM no doubt LM is very good oil too but very expensive
try zic 20w40 in your bike you would not feel difference in performance

[devilskreed]

Minimum 1-2 minimum idling is require for cold starts on motorcycles.If you rev a motorcycle at cold start you are an ***.

[altisdualvvti]

Minimum 1-2 minimum idling is require for cold starts on motorcycles.If you rev a motorcycle at cold start you are an ***.

Bro I just give a v.little bit race at cold start about 10sec and then let it be warn up on its on I mean on idle
Is I m doing right and yeah I give easily about 2-3minutes time to warm up

[altisdualvvti]

if you can manage 2 minute warm up time than continue with it
waise no matter what oil grade you use its recommended to warm up
bike some while i feel minimum 20-30 sec is good to do even if its summer

i am using zic 20w40 engine oil and i am highly satisfied with it
local engine oils are not that bad specially i like zic oil as i have
gotten best performance from zic they cost very low as compare
to LM no doubt LM is very good oil too but very expensive
try zic 20w40 in your bike you would not feel difference in performance

Waise amjad bro as I mentioned above that I m highly satisfied with LM and the only problem was this warm up time which is bit more than others olis in winter but it is absolutely fine in summers other than that it is awsome.
And one more thing which bike r u using now a days and if u r using zic than what is your oli drain interval and how's the condition of the oli when u drain it.As far as I know that oli condition greatly depends on driving style as mosltly I drive my bike at 80 or give full throttle as u know that one couldn't resist when driving on isb expressway when the roads r clear and my mostly routes r from expressway and in my experience havoline becomes like water just after 1000km of use in my driving style and what about zic.

[IceCold]

Waise amjad bro as I mentioned above that I m highly satisfied with LM and the only problem was this warm up time which is bit more than others olis in winter but it is absolutely fine in summers other than that it is awsome.
And one more thing which bike r u using now a days and if u r using zic than what is your oli drain interval and how's the condition of the oli when u drain it.As far as I know that oli condition greatly depends on driving style as mosltly I drive my bike at 80 or give full throttle as u know that one couldn't resist when driving on isb expressway when the roads r clear and my mostly routes r from expressway and in my experience havoline becomes like water just after 1000km of use in my driving style and what about zic.

I have recently used zic in my cd70 at 3000kms. The vibration was the same and so was the gear noise. No difference. However now my bike does achieve speed of 80kms. Previously it could only go till 75 to 78. I don't know if that's because of oil or the tuning done at 3000kms. The bike is now driven 3800kms.

[moons]

good. saara sayapa hi khatam
what's the price of the new SG 20W-40?

really Gull bhai syapa is totally finished. wsy log abi b free mashwarey deney se baz nai atey regarding oil.price is Rs.380 bought just 3 days back.

[altisdualvvti]

I have recently used zic in my cd70 at 3000kms. The vibration was the same and so was the gear noise. No difference. However now my bike does achieve speed of 80kms. Previously it could only go till 75 to 78. I don't know if that's because of oil or the tuning done at 3000kms. The bike is now driven 3800kms.

Good to know that u r happy with zic yesterday I have achieved 90km speed with pillion rider at isb expressway and the bike achieve this speed with ease my bike is on LM and it has driven more then 1500km after this oli change and odo reading is 8608 ATM

[qasimjamil]

I think i just did.
20W-40 is easier to warm up than 20W-50 even though both have cold rating of 20W. Oils used were Zic 4T 20W-40, Kixx 4T 20W-50 and LM 4T 20W-50.

And then there is 10W-40 vs 20W-40. Both have hot rating of 40 so they should behave same at full heat. But try them on long ride on a hot day and with 10W-40 you'll end up with loud engine and the feel that oil has gone watery. But 20W-40 will hold its own much better. Oils used were Total 4T 20W-40, Zic 4T 20W-40, Zic 4T 10W-40, SGO 10W-40.

Gull bro
Any oil better than zic 20w40 in the same viscosity? I am going to shift from 20w50 viscosity to 20w40.
Amjad bro and you supported Zic20w40 so seeking final verdict on this. BTW bike odo 4000 CG and only used 20w50 from day one. Used Havoline, Kixx, LM, Valvoline so far.

[ammarzahid]

Gull bro
Any oil better than zic 20w40 in the same viscosity? I am going to shift from 20w50 viscosity to 20w40.
Amjad bro and you supported Zic20w40 so seeking final verdict on this. BTW bike odo 4000 CG and only used 20w50 from day one. Used Havoline, Kixx, LM, Valvoline so far.

I think 20w50 is still good for your bike. As there are no importef 20w40 oils available

[gull_s_777]

Gull bro
Any oil better than zic 20w40 in the same viscosity? I am going to shift from 20w50 viscosity to 20w40.
Amjad bro and you supported Zic20w40 so seeking final verdict on this. BTW bike odo 4000 CG and only used 20w50 from day one. Used Havoline, Kixx, LM, Valvoline so far.

In 20W-40, not many choices are there i think. It's either Zic 4T or Total 4T and i have good experience with both of them in my GS.
There is atlas honda genuine oil too.
But now i am quitting Zic as it's gone API SL now, and these new grades come with less amount of some critical additives necessary for protection of old design engines like ours. I will be using Total most probably from now on.
My Advice: Use SL only if manual calls for it. Else best stick to SF/SG grades.

Anyway CG goes happy with 20W-50 too. It's the Suzuki bikes which give a little nakhra on thickish oils.

Here is piece from "Motor Oil" Article from wikipedia. A must read before you go putting SL in your ancient technology bikes.

[gull_s_777]

really Gull bhai syapa is totally finished. wsy log abi b free mashwarey deney se baz nai atey regarding oil.price is Rs.380 bought just 3 days back.

and what oil they suggest most??
By the way any difference felt between old and new Total oil??

[moons]

and what oil they suggest most??
By the way any difference felt between old and new Total oil??

1-couldn't understand first question. about whom r u asking Gull bhai?who suggest?
2-I think there is no difference in performance just packing has been changed. 20w40 was mentioned on old packing and API SG JASO MA 20w40 is mentioned on new packing.anyway bike is comfortable with it and can be stretched easily upto 1500 km interval.

[moons]

In 20W-40, not many choices are there i think. It's either Zic 4T or Total 4T and i have good experience with both of them in my GS.
There is atlas honda genuine oil too.
But now i am quitting Zic as it's gone API SL now, and these new grades come with less amount of some critical additives necessary for protection of old design engines like ours. I will be using Total most probably from now on.
My Advice: Use SL only if manual calls for it. Else best stick to SF/SG grades.

Anyway CG goes happy with 20W-50 too. It's the Suzuki bikes which give a little nakhra on thickish oils.

Here is piece from "Motor Oil" Article from wikipedia. A must read before you go putting SL in your ancient technology bikes.

Now i can use total with more trust as Gull bhai will also use it from now.

[gull_s_777]

1-couldn't understand first question. about whom r u asking Gull bhai?who suggest?

free mashwarey denay walay log...
i was asking which oil do you get suggested most outside the "pakwheels biker section" (aka in real world)

[devilskreed]

Just used atlas genuine oil for 800kms as Lm wasnt available at that time,not satisfied at all reverting back to Liqui Moly 4t.

[qasimjamil]

In 20W-40, not many choices are there i think. It's either Zic 4T or Total 4T and i have good experience with both of them in my GS.
There is atlas honda genuine oil too.
But now i am quitting Zic as it's gone API SL now, and these new grades come with less amount of some critical additives necessary for protection of old design engines like ours. I will be using Total most probably from now on.
My Advice: Use SL only if manual calls for it. Else best stick to SF/SG grades.

Anyway CG goes happy with 20W-50 too. It's the Suzuki bikes which give a little nakhra on thickish oils.

Here is piece from "Motor Oil" Article from wikipedia. A must read before you go putting SL in your ancient technology bikes.

Ok thanks bro

[moons]

free mashwarey denay walay log...
i was asking which oil do you get suggested most outside the "pakwheels biker section" (aka in real world)

Oh acha acha.:)Gull bhai ab km hi miltey hen free mashwrey coz bike is now almost 2 yrs old and "Mashwry deney wala" might think,it would better to give opinion to a new GS user.BTW, I have met a GS owner a couples of weeks b4 who had been using Liquy moly 10w40(synthetic) with some titanium in it for Rs.1850/ltr only:D and he told that this oil is good for 4000 kms.ME TU ITNEY MUSHKIL WORDS SUN K HI DAR GYA and thought "APNA TOTAL E THEEK AE.

[gull_s_777]

Oh acha acha.:)Gull bhai ab km hi miltey hen free mashwrey coz bike is now almost 2 yrs old and "Mashwry deney wala" might think,it would better to give opinion to a new GS user.BTW, I have met a GS owner a couples of weeks b4 who had been using Liquy moly 10w40(synthetic) with some titanium in it for Rs.1850/ltr only:D and he told that this oil is good for 4000 kms.ME TU ITNEY MUSHKIL WORDS SUN K HI DAR GYA and thought "APNA TOTAL E THEEK AE.

haha
Anyway, even if i had some super oil, i won't be comfortable using it for more than 2000Km in my bike. Because oil's job isn't only to lubricate but to keep the engine clean as well. And by 2000Km, i think it's full of enough deposits that it should be out and replaced with fresh clean oil.