My New Power Generating Machine--Lister Petter (15 KvA)

[tausifs]

for home its best to use a single phase upto 10kva...Go for metro if genset is authentic
I myself have divided single phase output of genset to 3 phase of household input, this way the alternator magnets dont produce noises that can be heard when no load is balanced on a 3 phase, if you can do load balancing than 3 phase is best.

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[hasooboy]

@tausifs thanks for detailed reply, Currently we don't have gas for past 15-20 days so generators are running on Petrol which is consuming about 3 litter/hr so, just for an alternate i am going for a diesel genset and lister peter at that price on which metro is giving is hard to believe so i am thinking of buying one now. 5kva petrol hock up all the load while in gas we have to run two generators.

Right now our setup is and its single phase.

OES 5Kva
Jasco 5Kva
Loncin 5kva
Honda 2.5Kva
Honda 3Kva

1-future plan is instead of wasting money on these chinese genset why not go for a diesel genset, from the post of all the people i got the impression that is life long one time investment.
2- We have regularized our gas meter for generator long ago now pressure drops dramatically, we don't wont give them money for this work as it will take few bucks and we can easily get the bigger regulator. We want to go through proper channel by daily visiting Sui gas office and giving application.
3-When we got the proper gas pressure, we will INSHALLAH buy Briggs and stratton or Kholer Gas genset which of them is more reliable and has better value for money.
4- Then using Diesel genset as a backup only.

P.S one more thing i wanted to know what will be the fuel consumption of this 5kva genset will it be any how less then Chinese genset ??

[fazalwahab11375]

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@tausifs thanks for detailed reply, Currently we don't have gas for past 15-20 days so generators are running on Petrol which is consuming about 3 litter/hr so, just for an alternate i am going for a diesel genset and lister peter at that price on which metro is giving is hard to believe so i am thinking of buying one now. 5kva petrol hock up all the load while in gas we have to run two generators.

Right now our setup is and its single phase.

OES 5Kva
Jasco 5Kva
Honda 2.5Kva
Honda 3Kva

1-future plan is instead of wasting money on these chinese genset why not go for a diesel genset, from the post of all the people i got the impression that is life long one time investment.
2- We have regularized our gas meter for generator long ago now pressure drops dramatically, we don't wont give them money for this work as it will take few bucks and we can easily get the bigger regulator. We want to go through proper channel by daily visiting Sui gas office and giving application.
3-When we got the proper gas pressure, we will INSHALLAH buy Briggs and stratton or Kholer Gas genset which of them is more reliable and has better value for money.
4- Then using Diesel genset as a backup only.

P.S one more thing i wanted to know what will be the fuel consumption of this 5kva genset will it be any how less then Chinese genset ??

[hasooboy]

Lets sort out this problem for you on GTG. Can you request Tausif to join..

Not a bad idea

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[dms664]

Sorry for the late reply as I was busy.

First of all your Phase Query. Single, two and three phase means that you have one, two and three active (Live) wires carrying 240 volts each of current in your house respectively. Current flows back through the neutral wire. If you have 4 wires in your electric meter (1 live wire and 1 neutral wire coming from Wapda pole to your meter and 1 live wire and 1 neutral wire from your meter into your house distribution panel) it means you have a single phase setup. Similarly a two phase setup will have a total of 6 wires in your meter (2 live + 1 neutral from wapda and 2 live and 1 neutral to your home) and 8 wires if you have a three phase setup (3 live + 1 neutral from wapda and 3 live + 1 neutral to your house). Keeping this in view, you can easily figure out what phase setup you have.

Purpose of phases is to balance and accommodate the load of your premises. In my opinion, it is not advisable to put a load of more than 6000 Watts on a single phase (though it can afford more). Continuous heavy loads on a single phase poses serious hazards such as heating up of main wires, short circuiting, fire and even burnt up Wapda meter. I have a big house and have divided/adjusted my load on the three phases. All lights and light plugs are on 1st phase through the UPS. 1 x fridge, frezzer, water dispenser, washing machine, iron and 3 x AC's are on 2 phase. 1 X fridge, oven, water pump and 3 x AC's are on the 3rd phase. Imagine what could happen if I don't balance the load appropriately???

I don't have an idea about your load and requirements!!! A single phase generator will always be cheaper and it doesn't mean that you cant run other phases on it. A single phase generator can run all the three phases of your house. You just need to tell the electrition/installer to loop the generator phase output with all the phases in your house.

If you think a 5 KVa genset can take up the load of your necessary equipment that go for it (regardless of the phase thing). I would suggest you to only keep the necessary equipment (AC's and freezer) on a diesel generator because in the long run Diesel will cost more than gas. You have to change your preference when you switch from Gas to Diesel for the obvious fuel cost. Think about it!!!
2nd suggestion, if you have more load, you should seriously consider to get a three phase meter installed. It's not safe.

Hope it helped.

In salees urdu agar meter bara hai with 2 wapda wires containing 4 small wires to ur home then it z 3 phase if it z small meter with only one wapda wire to ur home thn it is single phase.
We have 2 meters at home. Single phase for lights n fans plus one ac n 3 phase for other ACs , water pump, fridge freezer etc
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[Ovais007]

ASsalam U Alaikum..

brother kese haiN ??

beThe beThe khayaal aaya.. k aap se poochhooN k finally kia result aaya aap k lister ka?? about consumption? abt temprature issue ??

Ovais.

[Gypsy]

Can someone advise is similar generator available in Pindi Metro?

[lse1]

Go for Jasco, depends on what size you want?

Can someone advise is similar generator available in Pindi Metro?

[Gypsy]

I want to run a 1.5 t ac with couple of fans and lights. How much is that jasco, does it has auto start function? Is jasco available in pindi/isb metro .. about how much.. thanks for your reply

[hasooboy]

I want to run a 1.5 t ac with couple of fans and lights. How much is that jasco, does it has auto start function? Is jasco available in pindi/isb metro .. about how much.. thanks for your reply

5kva is for 85k and for auto start you have to buy ats separately.

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[volverine]

Friend of mine running 3kv on auto kit (H)that too on gas

[sohna]

@ poster
Why u donot like to share ur fuel average , and mantenance cost.

[Fasaliqbal]

Dear Tausif,

Its wonderful thread, once I saw it in the beginning when it was 3 pages long, today I have gone through it again & now it has become very informative & helpful, but we have yet to find out the final consumption values for the diesel so do share it.
There is also another question as well, what if the source of gas is not the gas utility company but the bio-gas, would gas generators still work on it, or is there some specific pressure requirement as well.
Kindly enjoy your piece of mind.

Regards,
Faisal

[hasooboy]

@tausifs

Just visited Metro and the model which they are selling is LLP 4.5 lister petter, as i don't have much of the technical information so i am attaching its spec can any one tell me that if its a good machine or not. What will be its out put 4.5kva ?? and i have a chinese 5kva genset will it able to bare its complete load ?

http://www.warrenequipmentservices.com/docs/lister_pack.pdf

[hasooboy]

Here is my setup

One Loncin generator is missing, it is on other side

P. S orient generator is for sale.
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[dr3vil]

my one quiestion it might be out of topic but how big ac in terms of TON i can run on my 2.5kva loncin genset with NG
i have seen .5 and .75ton ac's but wnat to conform it and i am gona go for that mobile unit ac whcih has a big pipe for exhaust as window is out of question

[hasooboy]

my one quiestion it might be out of topic but how big ac in terms of TON i can run on my 2.5kva loncin genset with NG
i have seen .5 and .75ton ac's but wnat to conform it and i am gona go for that mobile unit ac whcih has a big pipe for exhaust as window is out of question

I have tried running a 1Ton SG ac on my 2.4kva Elemax Gas genset and it was killing it self because of load But works perfectly fine and you can't run anything else on it. Check the amp of your genset and then check the AC which you want to buy.

[dr3vil]

I have tried running a 1Ton SG ac on my 2.4kva Elemax Gas genset and it was killing it self because of load But works perfectly fine and you can't run anything else on it. Check the amp of your genset and then check the AC which you want to buy.

i will run .5ton ac on it might run good

[Vaqas1]

This is what happens when chinese parts are Used.
My Listi Pettie failed in a month's time.

Though these are replaced lets see how many more weeks or months this lasts

If anyone goin to buy lister petter its better to buy the UK Made model the chinese one though they say QA QC is of UK its not worth it.

[hasooboy]

^^ thanks for sharing keep that in mind, what about kipor generator?

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