My New Power Generating Machine--Lister Petter (15 KvA)

[hasooboy]

What was the price of Jasco?

85k with gas kit 1 year warranty and 2 free service coupons

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[hasooboy]

@tausifs
Dear I am planning to buy a bigger generator for my home in Punjab and run it on Natural gas as I have a 2.5 KW Chinese generator now. And it is a real pain in the back.
I have 2 girls in home 9 months, 3 years old and now a days I'm in real pain because of load shedding. I can't sleep at night because of it.
I have saved some money for rainy day and after reading your thread now I thanked Allah for it. Before reading that I was thinking of (locally prepared genertors made by used car engine) which are available in the market now but I am thinking that I could be a risk as I don't know much about those. if the engine or alternator is of poor health and quality then it will become a hectic problem for me.

Please advice me your expert opinion that what would be the best choice for me.
FYI: My home electric load will be 2 AC Split units,Refrigerator,0.5 hp water pump, 1 KW electric iron, TV, lights and fans etc

Thanks

I think you can get kholer gas genset for 450,000 with ats and battery. Its American company you can Google it for more info. Well its a 10kva genset

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[bilalnoor1987]

I think you can get kholer gas genset for 450,000 with ats and battery. Its American company you can Google it for more info. Well its a 10kva genset

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[hasooboy]

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[hasooboy]

Thanks dear
now please tell me how to buy that and where can I get more detailed info about it and some real time pictures.

Techno vision Pakistan google it they are official distributor of kholer gas genset also provide after sale service. Model number is 14res you can Google it for pictures. Jasco Pakistan also have same model in stock.
Its comes with 1 year or 2000 warranty.

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[hasooboy]

Tausif bhai one thing I have noticed ed after changing engine oil to Delo Gold not only engine noise of the genset improved the fuel consumption also looking better.

Also noticed bcoz they did not heatwrap the exhaust pipe the temp inside the canopy is getting high. Ateeb said he will get heatwrap so let's see.

TapaTalk 2

Can please share diesel consumption of your genset, and on how much load you are putting on it ?

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[Durrani_45]

Can please share diesel consumption of your genset, and what's the size of it?

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and i thought u said ahare deisal

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[hasooboy]

and i thought u said ahare deisal

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Ahare deisal what's that?

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[Durrani_45]

Share I meant

[asad1]

clean setup

[ahmedk06]

This one cost us almost 2,30,000-2,40,000/- k. I didnt totalled the amount as yet as I didnt had any time...The cost includes ATS panel 15,000/- with Hyundai contactors 9000/-

Fuel source is yet to be coneected , we will use a simple gaskit on it and probably a solenoid to open/close gas for auto start feature and avoid flooding.
Petrol tank and pump is simple and will be added on later probably in winters.

nowadays its running 8-10hrs daily , i have pictures somewhere but i couldnt find em, i will post here when i locate em

[hasooboy]

@tausif bhai this thread is providing lot of Info to me, i didn't know that i will help a lot when you made it Thanks for the lovely thread. Now i am little confused as some how my mother agreed to buy this genset :D, We drop the idea of Kholer as no gas now days sadly.

Today i have called Pana communication and talk about them in detail for the purchase of lister peter. He has quoted me 595 for 7kva 3phase genset. Now i am wondering what is 3 phase and found out latter that my current setup is single phase so i don't need 3 phase genset.

I have told him that metro is selling 5kva with ATS and canopy for 159 he said yes its very cheap and they have old stock i can't give you that in this price, buy it from Metro warranty all the installation would be done by us so you don't have to worry about it.
So i am thinking is it better to buy a two single phase then one 10kva ?
Fuel consumption according to him in 5kva would be .5-1 litter
The model he told me i am unable to find it in lister petter website LLB/LLD 4.5

Now need your guidance in above situation.

[ahmedk06]

for home its best to use a single phase upto 10kva...Go for metro if genset is authentic
I myself have divided single phase output of genset to 3 phase of household input, this way the alternator magnets dont produce noises that can be heard when no load is balanced on a 3 phase, if you can do load balancing than 3 phase is best.

[tausifs]

I am not at home. Will reply to your query by night InshaAllah. However, Ahmedk06 is right.

[tausifs]

@tausif bhai this thread is providing lot of Info to me, i didn't know that i will help a lot when you made it Thanks for the lovely thread. Now i am little confused as some how my mother agreed to buy this genset :D, We drop the idea of Kholer as no gas now days sadly.

Today i have called Pana communication and talk about them in detail for the purchase of lister peter. He has quoted me 595 for 7kva 3phase genset. Now i am wondering what is 3 phase and found out latter that my current setup is single phase so i don't need 3 phase genset.

I have told him that metro is selling 5kva with ATS and canopy for 159 he said yes its very cheap and they have old stock i can't give you that in this price, buy it from Metro warranty all the installation would be done by us so you don't have to worry about it.
So i am thinking is it better to buy a two single phase then one 10kva ?
Fuel consumption according to him in 5kva would be .5-1 litter
The model he told me i am unable to find it in lister petter website LLB/LLD 4.5

Now need your guidance in above situation.

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[hasooboy]

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[cisco1]

@tausifs
I really appreciate your work, great job. This is the proper solution of load shedding. While UPS and Solar Panels are just like a cng in warrior tank.
Only generator can produce pure sine wave and has ability to run entire house non-stop, without any restriction.

[hasooboy]

for home its best to use a single phase upto 10kva...Go for metro if genset is authentic
I myself have divided single phase output of genset to 3 phase of household input, this way the alternator magnets dont produce noises that can be heard when no load is balanced on a 3 phase, if you can do load balancing than 3 phase is best.

Thanks for the reply, i have asked the Pana communication but they have three phase genset above 5kva which is very expensive.
Yes metro is giving authentic Lister peter and all the installation and warranty work will be done by Pana communication, i have confirmed it from both of them Metro and Pana. How ever the price i got today from metro on call is 1lac 40 thousand for 5Kva diesel.

[tausifs]

@Tausif bhai this thread is providing lot of Info to me, i didn't know that i will help a lot when you made it Thanks for the lovely thread. Now i am little confused as some how my mother agreed to buy this genset :D, We drop the idea of Kholer as no gas now days sadly.

Today i have called Pana communication and talk about them in detail for the purchase of lister peter. He has quoted me 595 for 7kva 3phase genset. Now i am wondering what is 3 phase and found out latter that my current setup is single phase so i don't need 3 phase genset.

I have told him that metro is selling 5kva with ATS and canopy for 159 he said yes its very cheap and they have old stock i can't give you that in this price, buy it from Metro warranty all the installation would be done by us so you don't have to worry about it.
So i am thinking is it better to buy a two single phase then one 10kva ?
Fuel consumption according to him in 5kva would be .5-1 litter
The model he told me i am unable to find it in lister petter website LLB/LLD 4.5

Now need your guidance in above situation.

Thanks for the reply, i have asked the Pana communication but they have three phase genset above 5kva which is very expensive.
Yes metro is giving authentic Lister peter and all the installation and warranty work will be done by Pana communication, i have confirmed it from both of them Metro and Pana. How ever the price i got today from metro on call is 1lac 40 thousand for 5Kva diesel.

Sorry for the late reply as I was busy.

First of all your Phase Query. Single, two and three phase means that you have one, two and three active (Live) wires carrying 240 volts each of current in your house respectively. Current flows back through the neutral wire. If you have 4 wires in your electric meter (1 live wire and 1 neutral wire coming from Wapda pole to your meter and 1 live wire and 1 neutral wire from your meter into your house distribution panel) it means you have a single phase setup. Similarly a two phase setup will have a total of 6 wires in your meter (2 live + 1 neutral from wapda and 2 live and 1 neutral to your home) and 8 wires if you have a three phase setup (3 live + 1 neutral from wapda and 3 live + 1 neutral to your house). Keeping this in view, you can easily figure out what phase setup you have.

Purpose of phases is to balance and accommodate the load of your premises. In my opinion, it is not advisable to put a load of more than 6000 Watts on a single phase (though it can afford more). Continuous heavy loads on a single phase poses serious hazards such as heating up of main wires, short circuiting, fire and even burnt up Wapda meter. I have a big house and have divided/adjusted my load on the three phases. All lights and light plugs are on 1st phase through the UPS. 1 x fridge, frezzer, water dispenser, washing machine, iron and 3 x AC's are on 2 phase. 1 X fridge, oven, water pump and 3 x AC's are on the 3rd phase. Imagine what could happen if I don't balance the load appropriately???

I don't have an idea about your load and requirements!!! A single phase generator will always be cheaper and it doesn't mean that you cant run other phases on it. A single phase generator can run all the three phases of your house. You just need to tell the electrition/installer to loop the generator phase output with all the phases in your house.

If you think a 5 KVa genset can take up the load of your necessary equipment that go for it (regardless of the phase thing). I would suggest you to only keep the necessary equipment (AC's and freezer) on a diesel generator because in the long run Diesel will cost more than gas. You have to change your preference when you switch from Gas to Diesel for the obvious fuel cost. Think about it!!!
2nd suggestion, if you have more load, you should seriously consider to get a three phase meter installed. It's not safe.

Hope it helped.

[tausifs]

@tausifs
I really appreciate your work, great job. This is the proper solution of load shedding. While UPS and Solar Panels are just like a cng in warrior tank.
Only generator can produce pure sine wave and has ability to run entire house non-stop, without any restriction.

Thanks. +1