Need help...Pioneer D Series or something else?

[Pumpup_Adrenalin]

Over and above what Maggi told u, if i was u, first of all i would have checked various speakers and bought the right one which matches the pre...generally speaking Pioneer 6972 is a Medium standard speaker...in Pioneer, i personally found D6902R (Rs 6200) comparatively better then most of the other pioneer spkrs, however, in 6972 range, the best option is JBL 937 or older model 936e(Price range from 3000-3700) although its mid base is low but still sounds better then JVC, Kenwood and pioneer etc, or if price is not a problem then go for infinity reference, infinity Kappa or Polk Audio etc... 2ndly, if u want some base from ur speakers then remove ur original rear board and install a chip board sheet and fix spkr on it...For front also i checked few which are available in the general market and found TS A1682 a better option then the rest...

[Pumpup_Adrenalin]

Over and above what Maggi told u, if i was u, first of all i would have checked various speakers and bought the right one which matches the pre...generally speaking Pioneer 6972 is a Medium standard speaker...in Pioneer, i personally found D6902R (Rs 6200) comparatively better then most of the other pioneer spkrs, however, in 6972 range, the best option is JBL 937 or older model 936e(Price range from 3000-3700) although its mid base is low but still sounds better then JVC, Kenwood and pioneer etc, or if price is not a problem then go for infinity reference, infinity Kappa or Polk Audio etc... 2ndly, if u want some base from ur speakers then remove ur original rear board and install a chip board sheet and fix spkr on it...For front also i checked few which are available in the general market and found TS A1682 a better option then the rest...

[Pumpup_Adrenalin]

Sorry not Mid base rather Mid range is low...

[mallic]

Maggi...thanks for the tip,

@ Pumpup_Adrenalin...someone recommend me to use T6972 as i was not agreeing on installing the AMP. i also got good feedback on D6902, will also check TS A1682 for the front. as i am not too much into audio stuff for quite long time so does these infinity and polk sounds better than pioneer D series? what price range they fall into?

considering V distorted pre signal than i have to install an AMP, suggest me a good deal:s

[mallic]

also why most of the company installed audio systems in accord, camry sounds better? they also don't use AMP's?

[Maggi]

does these infinity and polk sounds better than pioneer D series? what price range they fall into?

considering V distorted pre signal than i have to install an AMP, suggest me a good deal:s

they sound good compare to pioneer but the thing is u ur self
u are the best judge for speakers....what u like to listen u knw well !
so check the sound in ur car or in the shop and make a decision
i like D6902R and POLK AUDIO DB 690 and never used infinity so i dont knw ke infinity kaisa hai :s
regarding components .....typeR is best

[hashimsiddiq]

go for polk audio mm 690or 691 or db 690 or infinity kappas in the rear..

and infinity kappa components in the front and enjoy the crisp quality.. all depends on ur budget.. ull forget pioneer once u get used to listening the real quality sound..

there are even better options but all depends on ur budget

[hashimsiddiq]

@Maggi
is polkaudio db 690 available in karachi?? n for how much if it is

[mallic]

hashimsiddiq...with polk and kappa, do i still need an AMP? i agree there is no end in terms of spending but what is the best deal for listener like me way back to home from office.

[hashimsiddiq]

@mallic
u always need and amp to produce good quality sound from any decent speakers..

i agree there is no end in terms of spending

well it depends on you totally like i can spend everything i have to have a decent setup:-)..
but all i can recomend u is that if u are not as crazy as me then go for infinity REF9623I or polkaudio mm690 in the rear, both cost around 11k in lahore

for front get polkaudio db 5251 components which are for around 8 or 9k in lahore

plus u need a normal 4 channel amp for around 6k for them or u can save a bit with a 2 channel and hokking all four to it but thats not a very good idea but can work for sure

[hashimsiddiq]

and if u dont want to spend that much then polk db 691 is for 8k in rear and any components like kenwood or JBL which are around 5 to 7k in front..

[Pumpup_Adrenalin]

i agree with what @hashimsiddiq except one thing, if ur already installing a pair of rear spkrs of a quality of infinity, Polk Audio etc, then its probably little extra to spend on installing components for front, my suggestion is that u should go for front door spkrs and buy a 4 channel amp and connect these front and rear with it. Sky is the limit, the best combinations is, Components with woofer and connect them seperately withe one amp each, but then probably this set up is recommended for real music lovers who are ready to go any length to get some good set up. Probably not for a office guy like u who will seldom, perhaps only listen to music while driving to and back from office. However choice and money both are urs.
One more thing component spkrs consist of a matched tweeter (high frequency), midrange (medium frequency) and woofer (low frequency) set. These component pairs are available in two spkr and three spkr combinations, and include an audio crossover which limits the frequency range that each component spkr must handle. This allows each cone to produce its optimal frequency for max sound quality and volume. However, if u r already installing rear spkrs which has all three components built in togather, then controlling of its components independently not in ur hand Now if u install front components,even if u have independent control of components of front spkrs the overall effect of sound will not change much because of overhelming sound of rear spkrs...anyway choice is urs...

[Maggi]

@hashim
DB 690 i was getting for 5000(used chori hua wa) 2 months back i checked the sound realli liked them alot......dont knw the new rate :s

[hashimsiddiq]

@Pumpup_Adrenalin
one can never enjoy real quality without components in the front. As u know components have seperate tweeters and woofers. normally front speakers are placed in the front doors so they are much below ur ears and one cannot enjoy the real sound. if u have components u can place tweeters somewhere in the dash board and woofer in the door and that makes a hell of a difference in sound quality.

And front speakers are must if u want sound quality. One can never enjoy if sound is only coming from rear

[Pumpup_Adrenalin]

Well its a matter of preferance and priority, if only components are installed then i do agree with u however if ur installing good rear spkrs like infinity as well then in my personal opinion even if u install quality door spkrs u have enough of quality sound and u may not need component however as i said sky is the limit..i have a frd who has installed 2 pairs of spkrs(at rear), 2 pairs of components(One each at front and rear doors) and 2 woofers...in total 10...

[Innocentdevil33]

Bhai Mallic waise agr paise ziada he urrane ka shok hai tu wo alag baat hai, per bhai mere agr Amp laga lo tu Speakers ko sahi power milegi for example Agr Aap 2 roti khate ho din main, kam kar k 1roti khao tu kia Aapki performance pe farak nahi parega????

Aise machines k liye sahi power un k liye khane jesa hai...
meri iss bat pe gor karna

[mallic]

Pumpup_Adrenalin & hashimsiddiq, i am grateful to both of you for sparing time and wrote a nice description. i had seen reply from another member showing his approach, i really felt sorry for this chap.

Just one question, is it recommended to use woofer and components only (front and rear if possible) and discard rear speakers? will this thing work and give decent quality, in my view if bass can be driven from woofer than why one go for high end rear speakers? what is your opinion?

[RedBull_ar]

two things u can do here

get quality components up front, and a quality woofer in tha back, this will require u to have an amp,

other cheaper setup is to get components up front, and coxials in the back

for the first setup, i would suggest polk audio momo components, and polk audio momo 12inch woofer
with fusion amp.

for the second setup, i would recommend polk audio dB series components upfront, and db690 in the back. using a amp in this case is up to u. polk audio dB series sound very decent without an amp.

if ur going with MOMO or MM series. make sure u amp them, its worth the effort.

im using db series in the front, momo woofer, all off 4ch amp. i have db in the back aswell, but i keep them off, i find its clearer when just the fronts are running. thou not louder.

[enerlevel]

u can get any component u want or any speaker , but without an amp , its all going to sound like crap. on a built in setup , u need to get not more then 40rms speakers. secondly , all the new decks have a very powerfull dsp. the loud mode alone can alter sound till about 12+ db. now gaining up 12+ db alone on loud mode then Eq settings (+1 on each gain). then BBE (more db gains) then compression (more db) , how do u think a speaker can handle about 20+ DB gain on just a 25-30rms built in amp!!!! (by the way +3db is like doubling the sound ).

CONCLUSION?

u need to get all the settings down. the the music sound naturally. get the speakers to match ur amp RMS and i think it should play good.

[hashimsiddiq]

@mallic
u r welcome bro

well if u have a woofer u still need good speakers to produce clear mid n treable.. if u go for some cheap 6*9s like pioneer 6992 or 718 they will ruin ur sound quality.

as u are not a hardcore listener i will recomend u to go for polkaudio db690 or 691 in rear and db components in front and an amp..