Operating wireless sets without license and its law implication

[naveedmerchant]

I have heavy duty motorola wireless sets and found this very useful while going for offroading at places where no mobile phone works... however wanted to know what is law if anyone operate mobile phone without license in sindh and balochistan

[margallar]

i heard somewhere that if you use wireless sets without the concerned authority's permission, agencies might catch you, they can track you

[naveedmerchant]

i heard somewhere that if you use wireless sets without the concerned authority's permission, agencies might catch you, they can track you

That is ofcourse understandable.. but what is the penal code? is it limited to fine or imprisonment or what? As its a huge asset for cimmunication during offroading incase if any of companions gets lost while going in groups and need to wiegh utlity vs legal risks

[ahsanonline]

Just contact local dco office or the local law enforcing authority.

Btw, legal concerns would not be on your mind once intell guys catch up with you

[PKTUN]

use of wireless radio require a frequency allocation and area of operation not exceeding 11 km from base station in urban and 22km in rural locations. PTA, MI, CAA, ISI ki clearance hoti hai uss ka baad licence issue hota hai aur jin jin cars mai hota hai unka licence aur registration book ki copy submit kari jati hai

ap ko ap k faiday k baat bata dayta houn agar ap ko wireless set k sath kisi rural area mai pakra gaya tou police case nahi banay ga balkay militray intelligence ap ko 'lapataa afrad ki list mai dalay gi' police walay wireless case ya stellite phone walay ko 1 lakh cash lay kar bhi nahi chohar saktay unkay khandan barbaad kar deay jatay hain

jo radio ap k pass hai usko bhi disassemble kar k phynk deejay ya kaheen kabaryay ko baych deejay ap k apnay faiday ki baat hai warna aaj kal ap ko pata hai security theart, terrorist etc etc k nam par tou kuch bhi ho sakta hai

random frequencies are monitored 24/7 in remote areas specially in sindh balochistan national parks aur punjab k border k deserts k sath sath

agar pakar mai agaai tou car sameet GUM ho jao gai bhai apnay sath dushmani maat karoo maa baap family ka hee lehaz kar layna

[amerhassan]

@ above very very useful information..... u should de attached its battery..
Naveed merchant :: what is the range by the way...

[capsat]

@naveedmerchant his nick name may be funny but he is telling you naked truth pay attention to it before you regret and fail to see civilised world. Red is most important.

Tanoli saheb you are kind to elaborate it nicely. Thank you

use of wireless radio require a frequency allocation and area of operation not exceeding 11 km from base station in urban and 22km in rural locations. PTA, MI, CAA, ISI ki clearance hoti hai uss ka baad licence issue hota hai aur jin jin cars mai hota hai unka licence aur registration book ki copy submit kari jati hai

ap ko ap k faiday k baat bata dayta houn agar ap ko wireless set k sath kisi rural area mai pakra gaya tou police case nahi banay ga balkay militray intelligence ap ko 'lapataa afrad ki list mai dalay gi' police walay wireless case ya stellite phone walay ko 1 lakh cash lay kar bhi nahi chohar saktay unkay khandan barbaad kar deay jatay hain

jo radio ap k pass hai usko bhi disassemble kar k phynk deejay ya kaheen kabaryay ko baych deejay ap k apnay faiday ki baat hai warna aaj kal ap ko pata hai security theart, terrorist etc etc k nam par tou kuch bhi ho sakta hai

random frequencies are monitored 24/7 in remote areas specially in sindh balochistan national parks aur punjab k border k deserts k sath sath

agar pakar mai agaai tou car sameet GUM ho jao gai bhai apnay sath dushmani maat karoo maa baap family ka hee lehaz kar layna

[airomerix]

There is a reason why military jets maintain 'radio silence' while entering enemy airspace. The radio waves are EASILY intercepted and can be tracked by a single communications officer who moves with the infantry.

Communication wing of the armed forces monitor these radio waves 24/7 to look out for foreign CIA/RAW/MOSSAD/KGB operatives who prefer not to use cell phones for obvious reasons.
In short you have some deep **** stuff! I know its kind of sad that you cant utilize it but spare yourself the trouble.

Cool stuff anyways!

[affan555]

@pktun +1

@naveedmerchant ,,,,,,visit sm toy shop sir,,,,,,u will find sm cute model of walkie talkie

[CrZboutCaRs1]

well in special cases u can be allowed to use it.my friend had a motorola with 8km range and he had 6 pairs, he had to use them for 2 consecutive days in a most secured area. he asked the permission and told them his frequency so those people moved their bands for 2 days and let him use his moto.

[Dewitt1]

Thanks for sharing.

[capsat]

well in special cases u can be allowed to use it.my friend had a motorola with 8km range and he had 6 pairs, he had to use them for 2 consecutive days in a most secured area. he asked the permission and told them his frequency so those people moved their bands for 2 days and let him use his moto.

I highly doubt the statement from your friend. unless he has some Sub-leased trunking sets (because of brand you mentioned) from Radio cab companies or the food catering companies doing some Special Night Out services in 'secured location' those radios can be monitored on a SONY WORLD WIDE Receiver priced @ US$855.00 may be less on e-bay. -

people under special assignments or projects are 'Allocated' secure dedicated comms equipment which is not a street gadget in asian gadgetry market.

[ahsanonline]

Signals guys can track even encrypted comms. Thats what their job is.

In short: take written permission from your local government+law enforcement office. After that you should be okay.

If you don't get permission then don't even let the thought cross your mind.

[nasir007]

I don't think they are that bad or can be used against you !!
Most of the people who participate in Cholistan, Jhal Magsi Rallies, they use it !!
But i am not sure, whether it's is legal or not.
Let's wait for experts opinion !

[qwertypoiu]

as per me it is okay to use normal less range versions. I my self have used one with 1000meter range. in Lahore several time NO ONE PICKED ME UP.

further more licence costs 1 lack i guess.

[RedBull_ar]

contact these ppl

Pakistan Amateur Radio Society - PARS

[capsat]

I don't think they are that bad or can be used against you !!
Most of the people who participate in Cholistan, Jhal Magsi Rallies, they use it !!
But i am not sure, whether it's is legal or not.
Let's wait for experts opinion !

thats different case & scenario altogether - the rally participant data is shared.

2ndly hand held units are max 5 watts and works LONG range in open but limited in urban locations.

again I will say it is HIGH Risk specially under the current circumstances.

[PKTUN]

contact these ppl

Pakistan Amateur Radio Society - PARS

learn baudot before you apply for PARS membership

[Baleno1300]

The applicant is required to submit proposal comprising of two sets whereas
each set must contain the following documents:

-Prescribed Application Form
-Letter of intent
-Application Processing Fee of Rs. 100 payable to PTA
-National Identity Card.
-Two passport size photographs of the applicant.
-List of equipment including lay-out sketch of the antenna.
-Sketch of the exact geographical location so that the station is easily approachable by the PTA Inspector.
-Any other certificate/testimonial which can support the case for grant of Amateur License.
-Certificate of clearance of antecedents from the local Police.
-Proof of membership of Pakistan Amateur Radio Society (PARS).
-Certificate of recommendations from PARS for grant of license.
-Related Application Forms

You can get your licence form from the below link:
http://www.pta.gov.pk/media/rbsforms/AmateurForm-PakCitizen-Nov11.pdf

[naveedmerchant]

I can understand the concerns due to the current situation in the country and found this an excellent device to prevent from getting lost. It would be great if we can get an opinion from legal expert