Petition: Pakwheels Store Spamming

[rohaansaeed]

Thanks for your opinion and suggestions and it's highly respected.

This display of 'respect' is of no significance to me unless you actually work on what's suggested, read what you guys are typing out at least instead of uselessly acknowledging replies.

PATHETIC.

[uiv]

I guess you didn't bother reading what points me and @uiv have put forward.
Excuse my language but someone has to say this
What @fahadullah stated is nonsense in my opinion since the point is that keep these accessories (garbage accessories if I must point out), in the accessories section rather than SPAMMING the forums.
What are the forums for? For MEMBERS. For MEMBERS to buy/sell parts, not for the website itself, this is seriously height of desperation and amateur marketing tactics. Pakwheels has probably hired buffoons in this sector who don't even know correct grammar neither do they have marketing etiquettes.
If this is how things go, it's no surprise that most senior members are leaving or have already left Pakwheels forums.
Goodluck with your stupid new venture and thanks for showing that you guys don't give a rat's a$$ to what the senior members have to say here.
Also, new members won't get you guys anywhere, we all know the level of their intellect.

Whatever they're earning from these accessories, hope it's all worth it, coz they're earing it on the expense of respect and honour. Yeah, pretty much like (you guessed it what) business.

[rohaansaeed]

Whatever they're earning from these accessories, hope it's all worth it, coz they're earing it on the expense of respect and honour. Yeah, pretty much like (you guessed it what) business.

Without a doubt they've taken the line of the you know what business.

If spamming is allowed, then this shouldn't be a problem here either .

[uiv]

Thanks for your opinion and suggestions and it's highly respected.

[uiv]

On a positive note, Black Friday Sale is nice and interesting. I'd very much enjoy browsing through, or maybe even shopping, if useful ads weren't so hopelessly impractical to find.

And items desperately need proper description and maybe even a review section from the customers. I honestly believe that people would like that, rather than the current mess.

[qwertypoiu]

The basic reason there are multiple ads for single product is the ads system does not support option selection for colors or flavours for a product.. so they need to post multiple ads for every such product.

For instance if they add single ad for such products orders are going to be mixed up and it will be a logistical issue..

Solution for this is revamping the whole ad section which is no overnight job..

Now other point is when you are going to search in parts section you can filter out PW ads(buy now ads) and other ads... you will see what you desire..

The issue of spamming on forums that should be stooped...

As i see what happened some employee has been told to do so... and being a good employee he is doing his job efficiently...
reason for this maybe get more buys or hits in section for black Friday.

since this is annoying and has backfired and did no good his boss should tell the dude to stop.
Achay baccho ke tarha start posting in a single thread which they already have with links to the products so if anyone is interested he can click....

Lastly the issue of products..
it has to be addressed, but this is buyers market... 90% people prefer cheap **** so no one can put blame on seller but they should put some technical guy on properly describing the products..

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[fazalwahab11375]

Thanks for your comment sir.

Just to add.. The forum is in process of being moved from current V bullein platform to a much better and easy user friendly platform "Discourse".. There has been an extensive work on going in back end from last many months as its a mega project, all posts, pictures, embeds threads has to be transferred. The new platform will be much improved and organized.. There are ongoing issues. tech issues as well as other related to current platform but its not being fixed as of now and the reason is that PW will be leaving V-Bulletin in very near future.. so spending any time and resources/ don't make sense.. You will definitely like the new upcoming PW on Discourse with improved and better well organized look and the subject matter will also be addressed..

The basic reason there are multiple ads for single product is the ads system does not support option selection for colors or flavours for a product.. so they need to post multiple ads for every such product.

For instance if they add single ad for such products orders are going to be mixed up and it will be a logistical issue..

Solution for this is revamping the whole ad section which is no overnight job..

Now other point is when you are going to search in parts section you can filter out PW ads(buy now ads) and other ads... you will see what you desire..

The issue of spamming on forums that should be stooped...

As i see what happened some employee has been told to do so... and being a good employee he is doing his job efficiently...
reason for this maybe get more buys or hits in section for black Friday.

since this is annoying and has backfired and did no good his boss should tell the dude to stop.
Achay baccho ke tarha start posting in a single thread which they already have with links to the products so if anyone is interested he can click....

Lastly the issue of products..
it has to be addressed, but this is buyers market... 90% people prefer cheap **** so no one can put blame on seller but they should put some technical guy on properly describing the products..

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[fahadullah]

I have edit my post and changed Petition to Feedback. Please edit the title as well.

Done. Thank you.

1. We don't find those items least bit worthy of PWs stature. That's all. Not entirely against selling though, not at all. Agreed that PWs needs some time, to add to the inventory. But at least items should be posted with proper details and close-to-reality description.

It is a buyer's market and not everyone can afford the high quality parts. There are a few buyers for them and there is a huge cost to hold them in stock. We are selling what is in demand at the local markets. There is a proper research behind what to sell in the start to make it a success. Our plan is to have everything on the store and we'll do that but gradually.

1. We have nothing against PWs selling them through anywhere, as long as they?re organized. A single page with 7 ads of exactly same car perfume with different fragrances is plainly irritating, don't you agree?

As I mentioned earlier, we know the problem and we are adjusting the system to incorporate the new structure. Things take time as we work on feedback-control model. We make changes, collect feedback then reiterate to improve it. I personally believe that done is better than perfect because perfect is the enemy of good.

1. Again, for the forums, please make a thread and list all the items you have with their whole variety. Multiple threads for off-the-shelf 400 rupee items is just waste of space and inconvenience.

Your feedback was communicated to the Parts Ops team. They were instructed to not post multiple threads immediately until we find a better way to organize them. Individual posts were also removed and all the activity is now in their dedicated Sticky Thread.

This is how civilized discussions work. You felt something was not right, you created the thread in the right section and the right action was taken immediately. If you had gone to the social media and posted a long rant instead of doing this, you would only have made a fool of yourself and amused only 4 people who felt the same in your group :)

[fahadullah]

What @fahadullah stated is nonsense in my opinion since the point is that keep these accessories (garbage accessories if I must point out), in the accessories section rather than SPAMMING the forums.

I believe reading comprehension is a more desirable skill than writing in 'Good English'. We heard you the first time, there is no need to beat about the bush after @uiv pointed it out and I acknowledged and communicated to the relevant team.

What are the forums for? For MEMBERS. For MEMBERS to buy/sell parts, not for the website itself, this is seriously height of desperation and amateur marketing tactics. Pakwheels has probably hired buffoons in this sector who don't even know correct grammar neither do they have marketing etiquettes.

If this is how things go, it's no surprise that most senior members are leaving or have already left Pakwheels forums.

Goodluck with your stupid new venture and thanks for showing that you guys don't give a rat's a$$ to what the senior members have to say here.

Yes. The forums are there for members to buy and sell parts on an individual basis. Unless of course they have paid for commercial activity (there is a policy for that. You can check it out if you like to practice your comprehension skills while I'll enroll the team in English Writing Classes so you sleep better at night).

You yourself have been commercially selling stuff through PakWheels to make money, but when someone else does this, you twitch in your bed. PakWheels never bothered with you because you are a 'Senior Member' but I think you don't like that and want PakWheels to give a rat's a$$ (+1 swag for using cool foul language for me yay!) about that as well.

Oh, and I don't think you are in the position of commenting on someone's etiquettes and ethics while you yourself conned a member a while back and made him Khuwaaar (-1 swag for using slave language) for his own money for more than 2 months and only paid him after the intervention of other 'Senior Members'. I don't think anyone in their right mind would take an ethics lecture from you.

Also, new members won't get you guys anywhere, we all know the level of their intellect.

Please don't flatter yourself. Writing good English is not a sign of intellect.

[rohaansaeed]

I believe reading comprehension is a more desirable skill than writing in 'Good English'. We heard you the first time, there is no need to beat about the bush after @uiv pointed it out and I acknowledged and communicated to the relevant team.

Yes. The forums are there for members to buy and sell parts on an individual basis. Unless of course they have paid for commercial activity (there is a policy for that. You can check it out if you like to practice your comprehension skills while I'll enroll the team in English Writing Classes so you sleep better at night).

You yourself have been commercially selling stuff through PakWheels to make money, but when someone else does this, you twitch in your bed. PakWheels never bothered with you because you are a 'Senior Member' but I think you don't like that and want PakWheels to give a rat's a$$ (+1 swag for using cool foul language for me yay!) about that as well.

Oh, and I don't think you are in the position of commenting on someone's etiquettes and ethics while you yourself conned a member a while back and made him Khuwaaar (-1 swag for using slave language) for his own money for more than 2 months and only paid him after the intervention of other 'Senior Members'. I don't think anyone in their right mind would take an ethics lecture from you.

Please don't flatter yourself. Writing good English is not a sign of intellect.

Please point out where and how I have been commercially selling even a single part here?
There hasn't been a single post by me over here which you can prove as a commercial selling thread, I haven't sold a lot of stuff over Pakwheels but whatever I've sold has been in my own posession/use. Go into my threads and you'll find out.

And we all know the member you're talking about is @sinner__ who was dealt with and is a good friend now

As far as the English goes, nobody's pointing fingers at you so don't take it to the heart, I pointed out the 'padel' as an example but that's no biggie, that's a suggestion for you guys, nothing to do with quality of forums.
The main issue is just to keep things in the accessories section simply. Or make a pakwheels for sale thread which you've made already I think and display the goods there if they have to be in the forums maybe?

Oh and the intellect comment is not directed towards writing good English, that was in regard to the new 'audience' you guys are gaining which is a bunch of kids.

Quality over quantity is sometimes way more important, not in this case I'm guessing.

EDIT: I see you've removed the for sale threads from the forums, a big thankyou for that.

[zia1288]

@fazalwahab11375 don't you think the thread has served its purpose? Spam posts have been removed, all concerns have been addressed/replied. Thread should be closed to avoid unnecessary discussion imho.