Petromin or Atlantic Oil in Pakistan... Are they worth buying?

[hasankhurshid29]

Assalam o Alaikum

I found these to companies having official store on Daraz Mall Verified Stores. They have oils in reasonable and competitive price to other local brands. Should I buy it as I am not satisfied with my current oil Mobil Super 5W30 Not fully synthetic? I want to put it in my corolla 1nz-fe.

Thanks
Links:
https://www.daraz.pk/products/atlantic-super-fully-synthetic-engine-oil-5w-30-sn-cj-4-4-liters-i221692815-s1436760614.html
https://www.daraz.pk/products/petromin-a-1-5w-30-4-liter-fully-synthetic-sn-gasoline-engine-oil-i131883469-s1291966804.html

@capsat @xulfiqar @xenerking

[saqibhassan95]

Assuming, you don't wanna use any local brand, my preference will be valvoline syn power over Petromin or any other

[Xulfiqar]

Whats wrong with cheapo 5w30 from mobil in a simple 1nz-fe?

Are you getting heavy wear contaminants in the oil?

[hasankhurshid29]

Yes and that oil is not good. Looks like a fake oil because Mobil super is now become a local brand.
Daraz has advantage of having verified stores.

[hasankhurshid29]

Assuming, you don't wanna use any local brand, my preference will be valvoline syn power over Petromin or any other

I also want to consider price. I don't want to spend more than 4000. Atlantic is costing me 3400. What do you think should I give a try?

[hasankhurshid29]

Whats wrong with cheapo 5w30 from mobil in a simple 1nz-fe?

Also they are using false marketing. Like the packaging says Synthetic Technology but its not fully synthetic.

[Xulfiqar]

the word synthetic is moot.

it has 3 different meanings around the world, which one are you following?

[Xulfiqar]

Yes and that oil is not good. Looks like a fake oil because Mobil super is now become a local brand. Daraz has advantage of having verified stores.

Mobil is local brand ergo is fake?

anything Pakistani is fake? Gul Ahmed and AlKaram Fabric are also fakes?

have you done any empirical testing on the oil like a wear test? or repeating hearsay? - What if the "imported by khaypyaa smuggler" oil is fake oil filled outside of Pakistan?

[hasankhurshid29]

the word synthetic is moot.

it has 3 different meanings around the world, which one are you following?

I want fully synthetic oil, not semi or synthetic technology one.
Mobil Super is not fake but it's not an imported oil and I don't where my Mechanic is sourcing the cartons of these oil. Its costing me 3800. So why I don't go to a imported brand which is offering fully synthetic and genuine oil because its a verified store so they cannot sell lower quality oil as brand is on stakes

[Xulfiqar]

synthetic in USA is a HC group 3 oil which is not considered synthetic in EU and FE,

Synthetic in EU is a gp4 or high PAO oil which are sold as boutique oils in USA market.

which one are you looking for? - PAO oils are horrendously expensive to run in an econo engine like 1NZ-FE - Even Toyota sold it filled with regular API SL 5w30 globally and it has racked spaceship mileages in all markets.

If you are really really adamant on buying boutique oils then ask around some Redline race spec oil. (Its not API certed though and neither does it have the starburst or the JIS fuel economy cert)

[hasankhurshid29]

My chacha in USA has 1999 corolla clocked to above 300k miles and he used to pour 5w30 fully synthetic High mileage oil which in his opinion is best choice for my car as its consuming some oil.

[ifadey]

BTW I was amazed to see that Guard and PSO are selling group 4 synthetic oils

Guard 5w-20 group 4 synthetic
https://www.daraz.pk/products/guard-sss-plus-5w-20-4-ltr-4-litre-car-gasoline-engine-petrol-engine-motor-oil-engine-oil-lubricant-mobil-oil-i123966982-s1281382426.html

PSO 5w-30 group 4 synthetic
https://www.daraz.pk/products/pso-sae-5w30-carient-full-synthetic-motor-oil-with-ai-formula-4-liter-i3006820-s12161682.html

[hasankhurshid29]

Expensive for me

[ifadey]

I just shared because it was an interesting find for me that local companies are selling true synthetics.

If you are concerned over the price, you may try Atlas A7+ 5W-30 API SN Plus.

https://www.daraz.pk/products/atlas-motor-oil-a7-5w-30-api-sn-plus-fully-synthetic-motor-oil-gasoline-engine-oil-car-oil-i166552842-s1334670842.html

I don't know whether Honda dealerships also pour this oil, since it's from Atlas.

[saqibhassan95]

also want to consider price. I don't want to spend more than 4000. Atlantic is costing me 3400. What do you think should I give a try

Then go for Petromin

[Xulfiqar]

If your chacha bought it new - then I highly doubt he was having it filled with 5w30 FS oil back in the early 2000s as it would be cost prohibitive back then,

Today you can get a semi synth (high mileage) oil change for a smidge over 25 dollars at most places.

Such oils are also marketed as full synthetic sometimes due to some branding legal loopholes in USA.

Its not as simple as you are assuming it to be.

Btw a 300k miles driven 1999 corolla has absolutely zero price value in USA, its even cost prohibitive to get any work diagnosed on it. So even if its burning a qt per 1000 miles, hes still ahead, depending on what state he is in.

[capsat]

whats wrong with Shell , Aisin, Havoline, PSO
-

Daraz Mall verified means the vendor is Genuine and trusted, with refund / return policy.

not the Product

[hasankhurshid29]

whats wrong with Shell , Aisin, Havoline, PSO

Thwy are expensive if you choose fully synthetic. Secondly why a company product will be not genuine? The company itself is selling it not some third party

[asgharpwr]

True; Petromin 5w30 3L fully synthetic cost Rs 3089 while shell 5w30 3L semi-synthetic cost Rs. 3425.

[Xulfiqar]

The difference is

Petromin vs shell in Pakistan,

Khaipyaa vs actual principal. There is quite a difference.

I myself buy oils blended by these folks

https://www.warrenoil.com/us/

And also this spare parts shop oil which is actually valvoline product.

https://www.napaonline.com/

This same shop also stocks “liquid molvi” which almost never sells,

People like me buy local as its proven and has support. No time for “vilayatee shenanigans”

Of course you guys would have never heard of them, now when I was in Pakistan I opted for caltex and pso/castrol lubes as they were local principal rather than “importer” which is a beat up term now in Pakistan as people buying auction lot surplus are also called importers.