PK8303 PIA Crash

[anon36782927]

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[usman1texh]

do not compare an ACE with a lunatic.

Did you read my entire post? Nouman was my childhood friend. Where did I compare him with anyone? He was incomparable when it came to flying.

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[usman1texh]

sir don't be angry. it is plain general comment nothing personal.

people referring F-16 crash with a passenger aircraft pilots' blunder is no comparison or to be referred to. right ?

I'm not angry, just clarifying my position. The pilot of 8303 clearly made a series of errors and for those who keep saying we shouldn't discuss or have an opinion until any official reports are released; well, this morning the French authorities announced that they have downloaded the data from the FDR and it is very clear to them that the pilot ignored repeated warnings from ATC about his altitude and speed in order to continue with his approach and landing when obviously it was unsafe to do so.

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[usman1texh]

sir now please guide me who in right state of mind can gamble with multi-million dollar aircraft and price less human lives.

ATC reported the aircraft passing the runway threshold at 210 knots. That's 70-80 knots faster than normal landing speed of an A320.

Very unfortunate for the passengers, they were just sitting ducks.

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[Marschall]

Wah sir jee wah....ACE bana diya app nay ....May Allah grant him highest place in jannah....please do not compare both Captains they both made mistakes, he flew around 17000 hours and may be made an erroneous mistake doesnt make him a bad Pilot.Just think of all the safe landings he had made before..... accidents are bound to happen it is unfortunate but yes Pilots have deliberately crashed planes, gone to sleep and what not....haar waqt wardi wala hero our pant shirt wala zero nahi hota sir

[HellsGuardian]

On F16 crash, i personally think that he should have known that there is no return now so i don't understand why he kept trying to save the plane, was it worth his life? Absolutely not. At one point, the plane was already on its doomed trajectory and being an experienced pilot he must have known it and should have ejected at that time. Also the loop was started way too low so yes mistakes do happen no matter how good you are.

And obviously things are easier said than done.

[capsat]

be it a mercedes or a bugatti

no drive dare to drive and park a car at any spot without using brakes.

case of F-16 pilot was different he attempted a location for possible recovery where his failure resulted in almost zero loss on ground of any human life and property.

case of PIA pilot is otherwise.

to me loss of an F-16 Instructor pilot with clean track record & Colossal loss of PIA as organisation and civilian casualties is 1:1

[capsat]

The Report is shared

read and make an assessment about drunk sick aged lunatics flying the PIA planes.

[usman1texh]

read and make an assessment about drunk sick aged lunatics flying the PIA planes.

Woah, that's a pretty detailed analysis right there. Mind sharing who actually compiled that report?

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[F1]

They need to hire fresh Pilots purely on strict merit exactly like we see in other major Airlines in the world. Here in PIA there is a lot of corruption while recruiting Pilots which has been there since decades . Majority of the current Pilots in PIA are either sons of Captains or related to some MNA or a MINISTER. Many potential competent people fail to join due to these mafias .

[capsat]

so cat caught the tongue of Devil's (criminal pilot) advocates.

https://arynews.tv/en/pia-plane-crash-pk8303-caa-report-pilot-atc/

[dms664]

its not opening at my end

[capsat]

Please try over a pc

[Xulfiqar]

Majority of the current Pilots in PIA are either sons of Captains or related to some MNA or a MINISTER

This is not just limited to this sector.

you can see

baap doctor - beta/beti doctor
baap banker - beta/beti banker
baap mill owner - beta/beti mill owner
baap lawyer - beta/beti lawyer

regardless of the skills of their offspring (which are busy partying hard anyway)

If you dig further you will discover that the offspring gets the job on "refererral" of their dad and not on merit. The MNA or minister referral results in a complete buffoon sitting on a decisive seat - and I mean buffoon with lower IQ than a chimpanzee

Sadly this is norm in Pakistan - even in winning work contracts, results are never required, only "khaao piyo, aur hum ko bhi khilao" is pressed.

[F1]

100% agreed .. thats why we have failed to flourish over all . May be when we depart , our next generation might see some improvement but it will take decades !

[Xulfiqar]

our next generation might see some improvement but it will take decades !

forget it

new gen doesnt even know how to read their own language, they are severely malnourished too, you will also notice they are pretty useless in life skills also - I dont see any light at the end of the tunnel.

future will have a bugs bunny and daffy duck type show going on live.