Projector Headlights Issue

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bango (bango) 2009-12-09 07:06:53 +0500 #1

Hey all, greetings !!

Here's my issue .. I have two questions regarding projector lights, and need assistance to save myself from possible rip-off by some Montgomery road electirician.

1- The rings in projector lights - well, one of them doesn't work. When we connected the power, one of them started glowing, and the other flickered a little on one end (like a kharab tube-light), but it doesn't even do that now.

Is it repairable? If yes, can anyone suggest some place in Lahore? And the estimated cost.

2- The encircled light in attached pic - it has a lense cover type thing on it. Can anyone suggest a blub for this light? Because mine is dim like a candle, and the light is scattered in random patterns.

Kindly suggest exactly which bulb..actually what exactly should I ask for when I go to a bulb shop?

bango (bango) 2009-12-09 07:41:20 +0500 #2

Bumping to get the solution..

Nabeel009 (Nabeel009) 2009-12-09 07:48:51 +0500 #3

install HID's in it... and then see the result...

bango (bango) 2009-12-09 07:54:31 +0500 #4

Thankyou.

What about the rings?

Storm (Storm) 2009-12-09 08:02:34 +0500 #5

the problem with these cheap replica/chinese/taiwanese projectors is that they do not have any ridging in the back of the lense which helps with the light patern, as they come they have the worst possible light pattern since hte rear of the lenses are flat. if you require them to actually work and give you usable light you'll have to swap the lenses with original ones from a car that had similarly sized lenses.

as for the angel eyes (the ring) it's possible that the connectino is damaged inside as every aftermarket system i've seen in PK till now uses ridged plastic and LEDs to illuminate them. it's possible that the connection to the LEDs is broken which is easy to do since the wires are so brittle and small. replacing an LED is VERY cheap but depending on where it is located in the housing the labour could cost a little. best to take it to a qualified electrician and have them take a look.

i hope this info helps.

Cylestyne (Cylestyne) 2009-12-09 08:05:59 +0500 #6

Never install HIDs in these projectors, these are not Xenon lenses. Only use the stock yellow halogen bulb which comes with them for maximum visibility. Or if you can somehow find a 4300K HID, that would work.

bango (bango) 2009-12-09 08:09:10 +0500 #7

Thanks Storm!

Replacing the lense seems a pretty far fectched idea - its a long shot finding a similar lense I reckon.

But I'll get the rings checked...since you're in Islamabad I don't expect you to know any mechanic in Lahore...or do you?

bango (bango) 2009-12-09 08:14:09 +0500 #8

Cylestine - thankyou!

So I go and ask for the 4300K hids? I do have HIDs with Ballasters but they kinda don't fit in the projector lights..I mean they're different size. Would those 4300k HIDs work with my current ballasters?

Storm (Storm) 2009-12-09 08:25:26 +0500 #9

sorry buddy, i have no idea abotu meachanics in lahore. as for the lenses, i swapped the ones in my merc out when i fit aftermarket headlamps on it because the light pattern was pathetic. i used the lenses off an audi A6 which i managed to score in dubai. i'm sure once you measure your lenses (height) you shoudl be able to find a replacement lense here at the scrap yard (might have to buy complete lights though and take them apart.

bango (bango) 2009-12-09 08:26:59 +0500 #10

@Storm, thanks again! I'll visit Bilal Ganj in a couple of days to test my luck.

PuNk (PuNk) 2009-12-09 08:29:09 +0500 #11

4300k light is linked with the bulb. You need exact Category of bulb which produces 4300k light. H1 is the type of bulb used in these projectors i think

enerlevel (enerlevel) 2009-12-09 08:40:34 +0500 #12

ok here goes ur solution

1) the reflector of these projector lights are really small , thts why light is very less as compared to normal oem headlights

2) the projectors used in these lights are very low quality. u need some high class glass to make it project or makeit look good as oem projectors. ( a possible DIY swap with the cl7 projector mayb would solve this problem)

3) halo rings are just a small piece of led which blows up very easily. the only decent relay to protect them is given in the new corolla after market projection lights. u will have to rip open these lights and change tht small led light.

bango (bango) 2009-12-09 09:06:39 +0500 #13

punk and enerlevel - thanks. I won't be opening them myself as i'm petty bad at putting things back together.

Can anyone suggest someone who can do it for me?

enerlevel (enerlevel) 2009-12-09 16:16:30 +0500 #14

ya near plaze ppl open it but they too are not good at putting things back together :D............. u will have to do a DIY.... put it in microwave and heat it up and open it urslef

MominHaq (MominHaq) 2009-12-09 18:04:59 +0500 #15

The rings contain LED's to light them up(sometimes one at either end of the ring).
You can easily get them replaced, not sure about the exact price of the LED's, but they won't stretch beyond Rs.200

2- The encircled light in attached pic - it has a lense cover type thing on it. Can anyone suggest a blub for this light? Because mine is dim like a candle, and the light is scattered in random patterns.

Kindly suggest exactly which bulb..actually what exactly should I ask for when I go to a bulb shop?
First of all let me make it very clear that in no way should you ever use HID kits in these aftermarket projectors, not even 4300K(color temperature is not what is important here)

These are halogen projectors to be used with halogen bulbs only.

The reason why the light maybe spreading could be wither due to the projector lens being dislodged from its position OR the bulb is not sitting properly in the bulb holder OR your just just using the wrong bulb.

You car uses HB4 for the low beam, and most of these aftermarket halogen projectors use H11 bulbs.

I would strongly suggest that you stick with your stock headlights and use a good quality halogen bulb.an easy to obtain bulb with superior output would be the Phillips Rally bulb.

If you do want to go the HID route, then a retrofit is the best solution(output/visibility wise), though it is very expensive.

I advise against using HID kits in such headlights because it produces pathetic visibility.
For a more detailed explanation, refer to my thread:
https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/car-entertainment-electronics/121264-misconceptions-about-hid-projectors

Moving thread to appropriate section.

bango (bango) 2009-12-09 18:16:34 +0500 #16

Thanks Momin for the detailed reply...I'm going to read that thread you mentioned tomorrow before I hit the road...too sleepy to do it right now.

Thank you once again! Will try to find the HB4 bulb for a start..I hope the local mechanics/electricians know that terminology.

MominHaq (MominHaq) 2009-12-09 18:22:41 +0500 #17

HB4 is for the stock headlamps
While the picture of the projector you gave of usually use H11.

bango (bango) 2009-12-09 18:37:50 +0500 #18

OK. I'll go and buy H11s tomorrow inshaALLAH.

enerlevel (enerlevel) 2009-12-10 09:06:31 +0500 #19

actually projectors are suppose to be used with HID kits ONLY. because hid doesnt have any light pattern and the projectors control them with their cut off points.
the problem is tht the quality of the glass used in after market projectors are not of good quality. and there is nothing we can do about tht.
but in real life , projectors are meant for HID kits. tht is y mostly all stock projectors have hids in them.

solution:0
if somehow u can get a broken headlamp of cl7 and take tht lens out and use it in ur projectors , u will be as good as OEM projector headlamps.

MominHaq (MominHaq) 2009-12-10 15:35:58 +0500 #20

That is totally false.There are two kinds of projectors, HID and Halogen.

Toyota Camry, 09 Accord Coupe, 08/09/10 Honda Pilot and so many other cars come with Halogen Projectors from the factory which are not meant to be used with HID.

I have clearly explained this in my thread linked above. Let me give it here again.

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/car-entertainment-electronics/121264-misconceptions-about-hid-projectors

solution:0
if somehow u can get a broken headlamp of cl7 and take tht lens out and use it in ur projectors , u will be as good as OEM projector headlamps.

That is called doing a retrofit.Please refer to my thread.