to OP .. i agree on some points but my virews are different on others..
First thing first.. there are 3 things to be of prime concern
1: Design of engine and therefore bike esp frame body etc
2: Manafacturing of parts and their standard and quality f parts involed
3: Sales and service
if u read history of biking then u will discoer that honda was like todays chonda in 60's ,70's until 80's..
reasons were that honda had no markting,no sales service, etc loadsheding k bad but after they ovewrcome these hurdles they r on top.
now the most important part of any product is its design,, it should be a near perfect design.. a design lays out how each part looks and behavous.. how thwe mettalurgy of each part should be.. what composition of parts to use.. and what are the stresses and use materials that bears these stresses..
now coming towarsds ravi poiagio.. from the few media news items its safe to say its desiggnewd by piaggio or there engineers . so if its made under piaggio specs whether in china or india or pakistan it should be made using parts that confrrm to those that are validate by designers..
in case of chonda most parts are copy/replica of honda engines.. theyt are clones.. and these chondas are hybrid of various honda designs.. now regarding ythere partrs only honda did experiments or its partners did experiment or shared there knowledge in particular area with honda what should be the mettalurgy of each part.. so the otriginal recipe is with designner ..i.,e honda.the clomnes are notr using exact same mettalurgy or compositiomn because they do not have the recipe or design houses to doi so.. but another important factor is that these metallury of itewms is noyt top secret or honda unique in most cases its generic alloys or metals treate some known methods.. so that is in other words open knowledge for manafacturers.. and using this loophole if u wish the copiers are creating parts haing same mettalurgy..or near same ..or exceeding the quality of them.. by innpovating something theirs..
so by assuming ( i think safely assuming that the ravi engine is piuaggio designed made in china y zhongshen or whatever.. it should have same standards to comply ewith .. and piaggio to make it certain that it is the case should have shared / tranasfered the technology with zhongshen.. and if they are in partnership which hey are they have that technoilogy or equivalent or better ... so being made in china doesnt means its chinese..and never it is as its the design that realy means "made in " ..
so i shold say its italian design m,ade in china.. [ i say only this about engine] .. i cannot call it cHonda as its not a copy...
nother thing that sets apart one bike from another is its sales and service.. due to which honda is honda nowadays.. had trhere been no such thing by honda it wont have been it..
anyhow.... the big conclusion is that its design that matters .. a design sets what it should behave like and what it should be made of..
you can see the latest intel motherboards on which its written "made in china" but that doesnt makes that board a chines item.. because its design that sets the framework of any item..
i had a lot o dicussion with few poeoplew who would behave like ravi agents like mahmood and they said they are ravi guys.. dont know the truth if they asre or not.. i also put same question to him about its desing and where its made.. whether its a ripoff knokoff or something real .. and if its show some proof.,.. but they woint listen a=nd woulkd drag on in unnevessary discussion.. i wasted a lot of time with those guys.. lewssomn learned..
dont trust them .. dont give heed to them.
and personal opinion based on reviews on this forum from other memnbers and few trials and checks from fellows that i meet on road....apart from few pesky issues its good bike... had t same sales service spares availabilty there would be 19-20 dfference between avi and honda...