Real Haunted Stories / Unexplained Phenomenon / Paranormal Activities

[awais.9]

so this thread has started into some boring conversations?
i havent read any such boring post.....bring in some stories or just close the thread

[Xulfiqar]

to everyone his own,,, of every single story I have ever heard from a Pakistan concerning djinns, The djinn is always hindu - WHY? -- even on TV you see the same thing." - how come the djinn is never a christian, jew, muslim, buddhist, zorastrian, monk etc etc... or any of the gone civilizations. Then I have also heard that they follow their "master" iblees, and refuse to bow to the "creator

a few posts above I read that the djinn refused to bow to the creator just like his master shaytaan - hmm, the shaytaan did not refuse to bow to the creator but infact refused to bow to his creation. Food for thought

[mohtashimiqbal]

to everyone his own,,, of every single story I have ever heard from a Pakistan concerning djinns, The djinn is always hindu - WHY? -- even on TV you see the same thing." - how come the djinn is never a christian, jew, muslim, buddhist, zorastrian, monk etc etc... or any of the gone civilizations. Then I have also heard that they follow their "master" iblees, and refuse to bow to the "creator

a few posts above I read that the djinn refused to bow to the creator just like his master shaytaan - hmm, the shaytaan did not refuse to bow to the creator but infact refused to bow to his creation. Food for thought

1. djinn found here mostly are hindu , because of the ancient history of the place we are located , they used to have shamshaan ghaat with a whole lot of hindu descendece and activity happened here in the past . and i have personally heard a few cases of the jinn being christian.

2 now regarding to the point

[I]djinn refused to bow to the creator just like his master shaytaan - hmm, the shaytaan did not refuse to bow to the creator but infact refused to bow to his creation. Food for thought

[/I]Now this is absolute IBLEES's point of view .

you have faith on him , sure go his way , and go on the path of disbelief . like luciferians do .

what matters to us as a Muslim is Allah 's ( swt) command , and his supreme beings point of view.
Allah has not ordered this ummat to bow down before any one BUT Allah .
if Allah has ordered it , and Muhammad ( saw) has lived it . then it would have been surely bound on us to do the same .
but we are NOT ORDERED to do so . if we were ordered , then it would definitely have been lived by Muhammad (saw) .

your statement is JUST the statement that luceferian's use to invite people to join their league. and JUSTIFY IBLEES 's pride and disobedience. so watch-out for this as a muslim and ehl e imaan .

p.s this discussion is going somewhere else , so i would humbly say that please stick to the topic ,

and for the MODs , its a humble request , that just in case you people are thinking to close the thread , i would request to delete the off topic responses rather than closing the thread . IF required.

[HanifBhatti]

Interesting topic.

If any of you wants to meet them, stay one night at my place

[Ravager]

Interesting topic.

If any of you wants to meet them, stay one night at my place

hanif bhai inshallah kisi din moka mila tau zarur dekhe gai

[Xulfiqar]

1. djinn found here mostly are hindu , because of the ancient history of the place we are located , they used to have shamshaan ghaat with a whole lot of hindu descendece and activity happened here in the past . and i have personally heard a few cases of the jinn being christian.

2 now regarding to the point

[I]djinn refused to bow to the creator just like his master shaytaan - hmm, the shaytaan did not refuse to bow to the creator but infact refused to bow to his creation. Food for thought

[/I]Now this is absolute IBLEES's point of view .

you have faith on him , sure go his way , and go on the path of disbelief . like luciferians do .

what matters to us as a Muslim is Allah 's ( swt) command , and his supreme beings point of view.
Allah has not ordered this ummat to bow down before any one BUT Allah .
if Allah has ordered it , and Muhammad ( saw) has lived it . then it would have been surely bound on us to do the same .
but we are NOT ORDERED to do so . if we were ordered , then it would definitely have been lived by Muhammad (saw) .

your statement is JUST the statement that luceferian's use to invite people to join their league. and JUSTIFY IBLEES 's pride and disobedience. so watch-out for this as a muslim and ehl e imaan .

p.s this discussion is going somewhere else , so i would humbly say that please stick to the topic ,

and for the MODs , its a humble request , that just in case you people are thinking to close the thread , i would request to delete the off topic responses rather than closing the thread . IF required.

did you just brand me a "luciferian"?

[fawi]

lol , thnx ,

and i am not sure that at what times weddings ended , but there was a function culture at that time ,
where comedy artists were called on , and they use to entertain people for almost the whole night ,
so most of the ceremonies ( at least in my family) were a whole night show .

plus i WAS extremely scared , when i saw it , still to this day i have no idea what i saw , but her vision is stuck in my head.
i would have disregarded it as a WEHAM , but my mom and sister were a witness too , so i have definitely seen that.
and it hardly took 2-3 seconds for the whole thing to happen as i saw her from the moving car.

try to take a trip to BALAKOT sometimes , that is the most haunted place of pakistan .

being a visitor if somday i visit that place.. first i would not want to interract with any of such creature.. secondly do THESE CREATURE can be seen while walking down a road? are these so common there?

[fawi]

Interesting topic.

If any of you wants to meet them, stay one night at my place

i would like to live for sure only if u gaurantee that those who living there are friendly in nature and will not harm me there and in the future as well.. and am serious abt this

[Xulfiqar]

@mohtashimiqbal

Did you just brand me a luciferian?

first you post up that "Creations of Allah" can breach boundaries set by Allah - me being a muslim consider this as "blasphemy" WHY? - because you are doubting the powers of Allah.

Next in line - the article posted above speaks of some djinn not bowing to his creator (Allah) because his master (which was written as Iblees) did not do it. NONSENSE.. You need to study a bit harder, If such had happened there would be no concept of Iblees. His entirety was that I will not bow to a creation made of dust, look up the surah Al-Araf, ayat 12. Hence the above mentioned story in my opinion has a giant flaw - and looks fake.

Next time before you go ahead and brand someone as luciferian give it a second thought.

[Ch_Hammas]

I have heard alot of stories 100 % true from my dad and his friends as my dad had spent 22 years deep into Kashmir where their is no population except a group of 10-15 people.!
sharing only one,
one of my mamu who also served in army with my dad,both were course mates.were posted a place in Kashmir called 'Sabazkot' and a famous post called 'qabraan wali post' (you can ask anyone from army who have served in Sabazkot AK about the name).it was summer and according to my mamu he was eating mangoes,suddenly a creatures came into his room which looks like human but with long hairs on his body and start eating mangoes,and the juice from mangoes was dripping from long hairs on his arm,he touched that thing and screamed and became unconscious after that he spent almost a year in mental hospital.

[Automotorsport_Lover]

@mohtashimiqbal

Did you just brand me a luciferian?

first you post up that "Creations of Allah" can breach boundaries set by Allah - me being a muslim consider this as "blasphemy" WHY? - because you are doubting the powers of Allah.

Next in line - the article posted above speaks of some djinn not bowing to his creator (Allah) because his master (which was written as Iblees) did not do it. NONSENSE.. You need to study a bit harder, If such had happened there would be no concept of Iblees. His entirety was that I will not bow to a creation made of dust, look up the surah Al-Araf, ayat 12. Hence the above mentioned story in my opinion has a giant flaw - and looks fake.

Next time before you go ahead and brand someone as luciferian give it a second thought.

Although you are a senior member at PWs and ur knowledge is great... but I've observed that u pick up fights easily and act irresponsibly sometimes... Your attitude is often boyish and not gentlemanly...
Sorry to say that, but one should have patience.

Anyways, some great posts!
Mohtishim! I agree that's the best post ever!

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[Automotorsport_Lover]

[h=2]read it somewhere thought to share with you guys[U]

A Conversation with a Jinn: The Exorcism Experience[/U][/h]
Umm Reem describes her attempt at exorcism and the conversations that occurred during this experience. Please note that this questions of fiqhi nature may not be addressed, as this was not intended to be a course on the methodology of exorcism. Also, as we all know, the Jinn mix a hundred lies with one truth. So, the mention of the Jinn's profession of Sikhism/Hinduism faiths could be complete lies, esp. since these faiths do not worship Satan as the Jinn professed. No offense is intended to other faiths as the story is being narrated from what was told to Umm Reem, so she she cannot control what was said or not said to her. Finally, please do not try this at home!*

We read and we believe in every word of Noble Qu\'ran and the ahadeeth of the Prophet, sallallahu alihi wasalam. We believe, without ever doubting, in all that Qur\'an and ahadeeth talks about although we may never witness it. However, sometimes by Allāh\'s Mercy, we get to experience something further which affirms our faith and satisfies our hearts, and we thank Allāh azzawjal for allowing us such an opportunity. It is for this reason that I want to share an incident, hoping that may this be a beneficial and īmān-boosting read for everyone.
During my visit to Pakistan last month, I had the opportunity to read over a possessed girl. I will not discuss the details, but my conversation with the jinn, a creation of Allāh that we have heard of but never seen, is definitely worth sharing. The conversation was a mixture of Urdu and Punjabi and I tried to be as precise as I can with the translation. This is not the complete conversation but bits and pieces.
I started of with the adhān and some recitation from Quran until it, or she to be precise, agreed to talk to me. She was a female Jinnee named Seeta who had possessed a Muslim girl for almost 6-7 years. It wasn't a voluntary possession rather a case of black magic. As advised, I tried to invite her to Islam first. Apparently it was the first time anyone had ever invited her to Islam so she was a little shocked:

Seeta: How can I become a Muslim?
Me: Why not, anyone can become a Muslim.
Seeta: But I am evil and I have done many evil actions.
Me: It's okay you will be forgiven if you truly repent. My Rabb is the Most forgiving!
Seeta: But I've been a Hindu for centuries, I cannot change now.
Me: Sure you can if you truly believe that Islam is the true religion. Why don\'t you go around and see. You can travel very fast. Go around and you will find Muslim Jinns of your kind. Talk to them and ask them, they will teach you about this religion.
Seeta: Yes, I know. Their caravans pass by us and we make fun of them.

SubḥānAllāh, I was truly amazed when she said this. It reminded me of the first āyah of Surah Jinn: ???Say (O Muḥammad): ?It has been revealed to me that a group of jinns listened (to this Qur'an). They said: 'Verily! We have heard a wonderful Recital (this Qur'an)! And I pictured a group of Jinn and how they still travel in caravans!

Me: Haven\'t you seen the angels when you go up on the heavens and tried to listen to their conversations?
Seeta: Yes. They throw stones at us. I\'ve been hit by them many times. My right arm was broken because of that!!

My heart skipped a beat. I couldn\'t help but pause and just stare at the sky for few seconds. Up above those heavens, stern guards of Allāh, the angels, are protecting the skies with meteor (stones\' as Seeta said), exactly how it is described in the Qur\'an:

And we have sought to reach the heaven; but found it filled with stern guards and flaming fires. And verily, we used to sit there in stations, to (steal) a hearing, but any who listens now will find a flaming fire watching him in ambush.? (Jinn: 8-9)
Verily! We have adorned the near heaven with the stars (for beauty).And to guard against every rebellious devil. They cannot listen to the higher group (angels) for they are pelted from every side. Outcast, and theirs is a constant (or painful) torment. Except such as snatch away something by stealing and they are pursued by a flaming fire of piercing brightness.? (Saffat: 6-10)

I swear by Allāh, I don\'t see a reason why anyone\'s eyes will not over flow with tears at this ?tears of joy, a feeling of contentment, and a blissful satisfaction. subḥānAllāh, a matter of unseen\' was being described by someone who had seen it yet not believed in it, and was describing without realizing the effects it was having on the listener, not only just me but the others around and the ones who will hear it for as long as I shall live.
During our conversation, I learned that she was a Sikh but got married to a Hindu jinn (who died) and she adopted her husband\'s religion and she insisted that husband\'s religion is wife\'s religion (wow talk about obedience to husbands!). But, she tried to cause confusion by insisting that she was an evil dead-soul (bad ruh\' the concept of which still confuses many Pakistanis). Previously she had everyone believed that she was an evil dead-soul, but when I rebuked her a few times for lying and told her that she wasn\'t dead yet, then finally she confessed.
In any case, she asked me to give her time to think. But when I reminded her of death and the Day of Judgment, she asked the same legendary\' question that why will she get hurt in Hellfire when she is made of fire! At times she also said that she doesn\'t want to change her religion. And finally she said what manifested her nature\' and confirmed her reality:

I know Allāh is the Creator but I cannot bow down to him!?

La howla wala quwatta illa billah. Same arrogance, same pride. Didn\'t Iblees refuse to make sajdah even though he was certain of Allāh being the Creator:

Aba wastakbarah???[And they prostrated except Iblîs (Satan), he refused and was proud and was one of the disbelievers. 2:34]

I told her that she was doing exactly what her master\' Iblees had done, and she replied:

We are all of the same nature! iyyadhobillah.

I sat there staring at her thinking to myself that this creation is low in intellect and high in arrogance and so even after seeing the clear Miracles of Allāh azzawjal refuses to believe. On the other hand, humans cannot see what these jinns can see, but are blessed with a higher intellect. And perhaps that\'s why humanity has more logical\' and reasonable\' proofs with the addition of the living miracle of Qur\'an to see the truthfulness of Islam, yet if humans refuse then what good is that intellect which still leads to arrogance and ignorance!
We seek Allāh\'s refuge from the evil characteristics of arrogance, a trait of shaytaan.
Of the things that she said about Ibless was that he has a throne above the water!
The Messenger of Allāh, sallallahu alihi wasalm, said:

Iblees placed his throne on water then he sends out his emissaries? (Muslim, 5023)

She also said that he has told them that he will wear a crown on the Day of Judgment.
He has also promised them of unlimited rewards\'. She said,

Your Rabb has promised you rewards and our Iblees has promised us rewards.

Surely his promises are nothing but lies, as mentioned in Qur\'an:

And Shait?n (Satan) will say when the matter has been decided: ?Verily, Allāh promised you a promise of truth. And I too promised you, but I betrayed you. I had no authority over you except that I called you, so you responded to me. So blame me not, but blame yourselves. I cannot help you, nor can you help me. I deny your former act in associating me (Satan) as a partner with Allāh (by obeying me in the life of the world). Verily, there is a painful torment for the Z?lim? (polytheists and wrong-doers, etc.). (14:22)

And surely he will turn his backs on all those who obeyed him:

Their allies deceived them) like Shaitân (Satan), when he says to man: ?Disbelieve in Allāh.? But when (man) disbelieves in Allāh, Shaitân (Satan) says: ?I am free of you, I fear Allāh, the Lord of the 'Alamîn (mankind, jinns and all that exists)! (59:16)

She had a particular obsession with Iblees\'s beauty and kept repeating how handsome he is, a\'oodhobillahi minhu. She also uttered a lot of evil which can only be uttered by someone wicked, and I will not mention it here.
Let me mention that the spell was cast upon the girl out of sheer jealousy and sadly by a very close relative. That day, as I read Surah Falaq upon her and got to the last verse, wAllahi I felt like I was reading it for the first time. It was as if I could understand\' the meanings of it: And from the evil of the envier when he envies.?
I was able to see what jealousy can cause; I could see the dangers of the one who becomes jealous, iyyadhobillah. That day, I truly appreciated the du\'as of protecting oneself from evil eye and jealousy, and the adhkar of day and night.
Let me also state a few things that I had previously learned about jinns, mainly from Bilal Philip\'s book and from Sh. Yasir\'s Aqeedah class, and were confirmed by talking to Seeta:
She mentioned that if she leaves that girl, then she would want to possess someone else, I asked her the reason and she said:

Because it is fun and I enjoy bothering people![I] a\'oodhobiAllah[/I]!

She liked attention and perhaps that\'s why she was so talkative. However, she was a liar who tried to cause as many confusion as she possibly could.
She had a strong hold on the girl while in the bathroom. To be honest, some of the incidents were quite scary and I won\'t even mention them. My sincere advice is to never forget the du\'a before entering the bathroom!
To conclude, I have some advice for myself and for everyone else. To have a strong faith in Allāh azzawjal and placing one\'s tawakkul in Allāh alone is a strong weapon against shayateen. If I ever get the permission from this sister, I would like to write about how she was before when the Jinn possessed her and how improving her faith kept weakening the jinn in her.
The beautiful adhkaar and the du\'as are indeed a fortress of a believer. To be quite honest, that is the only defense we have against them but it is the fortification if we read with certainty and belief.
Be punctual with the prayers and read Qur\'an. Make sure you recite Qur\'an, and if you cannot (for some reasonable reason) then have it recited in your house everyday. Read your du?ā?\'s before leaving and upon entering the house (so shayateen don\'t enter with you), before eating, before entering the bathroom and especially before falling asleep. May Allāh azzawjal protect us from the fitan and sharr of all the shayateen among men and jinn, protect our spouses, children, families and all the Muslims around the world.
Lastly and most importantly, may Allāh azzawjal reward Sh. Yasir Qadhi for his valuable advice and for taking time out to assist me throughout the exorcism.

Great contribution... wish someone is here having similar knowledge!

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[Xulfiqar]

so its nice and gentlemanly for someone to brand me anything they wish because they had a brain stall - NICE.. very nice indeed.

[Automotorsport_Lover]

You are who you are pal... you don't need words of others for getting respected or something.

Anyways, back to thread!

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[fawi]

@xulfiqar and mohtashim

i maself personally like to debate bcoz it helps in verifying and expanding one's own knowledge.. but disscussing beliefs here will end up closing this thread.. u know y? not bcoz u two will debate but bcoz other TAMAASHBEEN here will try to put thier leg with ill-logical and un-authentic sources of media.. so i would suggest u two to plz disscuss it at som other place.. i would also like to join u guys there but disscussing here will bring this thread to an end..
think abt it with calm mind.. and as far as disscussing som other place is concerned we three can use our fb accounts for that or live messenger as well.
thank u

[Ravager]

I have heard alot of stories 100 % true from my dad and his friends as my dad had spent 22 years deep into Kashmir where their is no population except a group of 10-15 people.!
sharing only one,
one of my mamu who also served in army with my dad,both were course mates.were posted a place in Kashmir called 'Sabazkot' and a famous post called 'qabraan wali post' (you can ask anyone from army who have served in Sabazkot AK about the name).it was summer and according to my mamu he was eating mangoes,suddenly a creatures came into his room which looks like human but with long hairs on his body and start eating mangoes,and the juice from mangoes was dripping from long hairs on his arm,he touched that thing and screamed and became unconscious after that he spent almost a year in mental hospital.

tuhadday mamu ne am chor pai gaye.. jin nai

[Xulfiqar]

I found it pretty weird - that everyone is perfect calling me a "luciferian" if I put up a Quranic verse against that stories sentence which makes it completely invalid. What happened to all the "holiness" Pakistanis love to drum about in every part of their life.

Automotosport lover - dont need any assertions PAL, I know exactly who I am - but dont tolerate being branded.

[Ravager]

Although you are a senior member at PWs and ur knowledge is great... but I've observed that u pick up fights easily and act irresponsibly sometimes... Your attitude is often boyish and not gentlemanly...
Sorry to say that, but one should have patience.

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i will have to agree to this to some extent.. must debate like gentlemen and not get personal..
in the end.. you cannot change someone elses' believes.. no matter how strong your logic is..
people here have trouble accepting other peoples' logic

[fawi]

I found it pretty weird - that everyone is perfect calling me a "luciferian" if I put up a Quranic verse against that stories sentence which makes it completely invalid. What happened to all the "holiness" Pakistanis love to drum about in every part of their life.

Automotosport lover - dont need any assertions PAL, I know exactly who I am - but dont tolerate being branded.

very well said.. specially the BOLD ones.. since i hav no idea of lucifer and luciferian so not commenting upon this.. just cheked wikipedia too for it.. but all that was written over there didnt come to my understanding..

[mohtashimiqbal]

@mohtashimiqbal

Did you just brand me a luciferian?

first you post up that "Creations of Allah" can breach boundaries set by Allah - me being a muslim consider this as "blasphemy" WHY? - because you are doubting the powers of Allah.

Next in line - the article posted above speaks of some djinn not bowing to his creator (Allah) because his master (which was written as Iblees) did not do it. NONSENSE.. You need to study a bit harder, If such had happened there would be no concept of Iblees. His entirety was that I will not bow to a creation made of dust, look up the surah Al-Araf, ayat 12. Hence the above mentioned story in my opinion has a giant flaw - and looks fake.

Next time before you go ahead and brand someone as luciferian give it a second thought.

nopes i havent , and i apologize if it appeared to you that way .
i have seen quite a few documentaries on how Luciferian lure people into their relegion , and this is the exact same justification they give as an opening statement .

i was just telling , as a strictly general fact .

regarding the barrier that is to be breached .
we have to find out what exactly is a barrier first .

speaking in the Human way , there is a barrier for us to commit " ZINA"
but yet humans do it , the creations has breached the barrier.

1. iblees a dJINN can appear infron of IBRAHIM AS.
2. IBLEES a djinn can appear infront of the twelve sons of Yaqoob AS.
3. infront of the JEWSIH RABBI's to teach them magic.
4. many JINNs can appear and fight with sulemaan (AS)
5. can appear in Muhammad(saw)'s time to ill one sahaba.

this PROVE , that the species of JINN is granted the capability by Allah' swt , to act upon their free will , and go Against Allah's will for which they will absolutely be payable on judgement day.