Rebirth of Khyber 1996 - Daniyal

[Xulfiqar]

Your engine should be maintaining 85c and the hose pipes should be hard when its at that temperature.

You cannot use the dmm thermister to accurately measure engine temperature unless its dipped in liquid.

You have the repair manual right? Open up the electric section on troubleshooting the temperature gauge, it will have the resistance chsrt, use that and measure the resistance of the sender.

[miqdadkanani]

one more thing. The mileage is extremely poor atm. roughly 3km/ltr. Irshad said i need to go to a carburettor wala to set that thing.

[brownrose78]

Go to Carburetor wala on Abul Hasan Ispahani Road next to Naala after BIG BUY Supermarket. IF Irshad is saying then it now needs complete Carburetor overhauling.

Recheck temperature Guage and also attach Additional digital Temperature Guage inside dash for cross checking temperature.

[miqdadkanani]

Wasn't there a guy on tariq Rd or somewhere, the famous one for carburettor?

[nnabeel]

bhai,

please goto electrician and get all your wiring sorted out. you have assembled the engine and running car without the temp meter and checking it by hand. get it done before doing any other work. i guess irshad told me the same to have wiring done as it is messed up. secondly whats the condition of the radiator. is it new?
The Thermostat valve is not installed yet? or have you installed it?

after that do the carb work.

[miqdadkanani]

Yes boss Electrician work is lined up next.

Thermostat, irshad asked me to come again after electric work (and Auto fan switch) so he can check the temperature and leakages, if any, which is found now.

[miqdadkanani]

Radiator was bought 3 years ago. But it's high duty loads one and car has been driven 7,8k kms only after that. Got it serviced last month too.

The radiator didn't leak even a drop before I started this project. So I guess it should be fine

[capsat]

for eletcrical wiring goto Fareed 0300 8993993 across malik autos at preedy police station.
take off meter cluster and drop it at hafiz ji 0300 283 7591 shop for repairs khyber cluster temp & fuel guages are notorious for burn out. as 'factory fault'

Carb shall be last item to fiddle with. abdur rehman at tariq road has become a scammer., he no longer works himself and outsourced the shop to cheater gutka niswar class. Mehmood Carb at plaza is very much holding his reputation at par., anyone can guide you or you can search here to find map location posted long time ago.

[miqdadkanani]

Thanks a lot for the guidance.

meter cluster has already been fixed by Hafiz jee.

Wiring was half-way done (engine room) by my electrician during the dent job. he just has to continue.

[hassankhan03]

In my opinion Hafiz jee didn’t do much to my meter his work was not satisfactory at all, , please get the meter luster done asap , and hiw are you measuring the average , yiu dont even have a furl guage

[miqdadkanani]

I have the same concern but I'll keep a check via zulfiqar bhai's method or an infrared thermometer.

[miqdadkanani]

For now. Checked via a multi meter by touching its end to various places and the temperature hovered between 45-52.

We were able to touch and place our handd on all the places easily.

[miqdadkanani]

Just heard good reviews about mahmood carburettor from my father in law as well.

[Xulfiqar]

You are doing this backwards, before fiddling the carburetor, you need to make 100% sure everything is top notch perfect.

Here is the list of items

1 engine should be maintaining operating temp (meaning thermostat valve is must)
2 distributor should be perfectly working (specially centrifugal advance)
3 pcv should be perfect (whole breathing setup)
4 air box should be sealed correct to carby top so it only sucks air through filter
5 all vacuum hoses should be correctly installed

After all above is top notch and equal to workshop manual data, only then mess with carburettor.

[nnabeel]

Why not bear some more load and take some more pain.

take out then engine, have the engine room painted. install back with proper wiring. then follow all the steps as @Xulfiqar sb has mentioned.

[miqdadkanani]

1) yes thermostat valve will be installed this week by Irshad
2) distributor advance was also fine, inspected by the mechanic
3) pcv was also checked by playing a Thumb over it
4) i have placed the Seal between air box and carby, but am yet to Seal the sides. Will do it
5) this vacuum hoses thing. Isn't it related to the carburettor only?

P.s: the book I saw at arfat autos was a parts manual and not the workshop manual. Damn it

[brownrose78]

1. Buy T.valve only from 3S.
   Follow @mustansir44 thread for 89 restoration where I guided him about checking required t.valve available from different Suzuki models by comparing their diameters with their i.d & o.d

2. Do share pictures of seal you mentioned in your point 4

3. What about pick difference and responsitivity of engine after work by Irshad.

[miqdadkanani]

Thanks

Almost all items at 3s dealerships are unavailable due to plant closures. I inquired back in jan.

However, I have already bought the t-stat from arfat autos as mentioned in my post 237 and conducted the experiment to check the valve opening Temp.

Will go through the I.d and o.d measurement as well.

[miqdadkanani]

1. Alright will share. It's easily available

2. Not driving regularly, but the response is amazing so far. I can say It's a quarter self start. Haven't noticed much difference in the pick but engine sound is solid.

[brownrose78]

Keep eyes on oil level decrease. Btw which viscosity oil are you using nowadays after rebuilt by Irshad?