REVIEW: ALTIS 1.6 Fuel Efficiency, 6th Gear deployment

[wala]

Looking good...

[accord7362]

very informative , & i like this proper way of getting average

Good share Sir ======

[ahmadbila]

very very nice thread...i love ur writing style and also the calculation method.i hardly believe the real time fuel consumption meters... the way u do it is the real way...

and this thread increased my respect for the new 1.6l altis... i always appreciate this move of toyota, reducing 200cc, adding 6th gear etc (actually its kinda unlike toyota indus or any local manufacturer to do such a thing) they ve really tried to cut down on the fuel consumption and have succeeded on it too. since engine displacement is one of the most important factor while selecting a car for many buyers, many are gonna ditch the civic just because the corolla is 1.6l and would consume lesser fuel, even though most of them wudnt know that its actually the 6th gear and dual vvti which reduce the fuel consumption of the car...

the civic, in comparison is a very thirsty car. a friend of mine sold of his 2010 civic vti oriel prosmatec JUST because it wudnt do anything more then 9km/ltr. now he has a silver 1.6l altis, same as urs. however, me says it himself that the drive and comfort of the civic are unbeatable, theres no denying that

[RedBull_ar]

interesting thread, a bit surprising as well.

while yours a manual, my automatic gives me 10kmpl in city and 12kmpl on m2 @130kmph
in comparison, my civic automatic gives me 9kmpl in city and 14kmpl on m2 @130kmph

hence im not really impressed by the fuel economy part of 1.6 corolla.

[umair2203]

interesting thread, a bit surprising as well.

while yours a manual, my automatic gives me 10kmpl in city and 12kmpl on m2 @130kmph
in comparison, my civic automatic gives me 9kmpl in city and 14kmpl on m2 @130kmph

hence im not really impressed by the fuel economy part of 1.6 corolla.

Corolla should give you more in a litre on highway... How much is it driven yet ?

Do you engage Cruise Control while reaching desired speed ?

One reason for that may be AT versions are "4 Speed" only while the manual ones have 6 speed transmission so on higher speeds efficiency will decline at a faster rate ...

IN every other country Auto versions have 7 speed tip tronic ..... but here .... it is 4 speed .. That is like going 20 years back in technology .... !!!

[AK471]

Thank you everybody for the kind comments. I regret having been off from here since long, predominantly been busy with another hobby and some domestics.

Just logged in here and found some kind comments and questions. Thank you Accord7362 and all friends.

SAD NEWS:

The Bird is Gone!

4 nights ago, Tracker, security alarm, steering lock, gate lock and most importantly Anti-Jamming device, all the bloody crap attached was dismantled in less than 20 minutes from inside my porch area, with no feed-back from tracking firm still, not even an alerting call, in fact I myself had to call them up on the missing beauty, lifted!

FIR lodged, 15 alerted, investigations in process, car was insured at full value, and now find myself back to square 1 as six months ago, MT or AT, Honda or Corolla, etc, the ever to be car enthusiasts dilemmas here, lolz!

Will post separate thread soon on the "false sense of security" and " market gimmickry " of tracking firms, so far - as the probably only benefit of this whole melodrama - an advice and warning alert to dear friends here:

:" Trackers and tracking firms predominantly track your own movements only, nothing else "

And stay away from trackers, humbly.

Regards.

[khurram_aziz]

Sorry to hear about your loss!

[lvljojo]

sad new bro......!!!

[mtalpur1975]

so sad yar

[mujtaba17]

Nazar Lag Gayi
Allah kere you get your car back...

[mani43]

Sad to know, but just in 20 mins so many security measures broken?

[HasHo0]

WTH :o , Sorry to hear about your loss!

but really amazed how it happened :-#

[umair2203]

OOOOOOOOO MMMMMMMMMMMMM GGGGGGGGGGGG ... What de H***

so sad to hear that bro ... Thank God the car was insured ...

[syed-shoaib]

Such a sad new No way to express the tragedy. May Allah give to power to sustain the loss and give you a lot more.

Hmmm i am desperatly waiting for the thread you are going to launch about "false sense of security" and " market gimmickry ". Please do paste the link in this thread to that thread.

Plus do tell us in which sector do you live in Islamabad? I mean the sector from where this beauty got stolen.

Frankly speaking, I am extremely surprised by the awesomeness of that little rascal genius thief who has disabled tracker, security alarm, anti-jamming device, broken the steering lock, cracked the gate lock and most importantly did all this in twenty minutes!!! Bravo man. Unbelievable. If these kind of talented people start to do positive things then Pakistan would become the best nation of this world.

Lastly, I really hope this is not an inside job but most of the time the investigations of incidents like this one lead us to some one who knew already the timings and level of security.

I remember you launched this thread in Ramazan (if I am not wrong). I think you bought the beauty just before ramazan or in ramzan. May Allah shower his best blessing on you can give you all the lost money back in best way. Please keep us updated about whatever is happening regarding this issue.

regards,

[AK471]

Such a sad new No way to express the tragedy. May Allah give to power to sustain the loss and give you a lot more.

> Hmmm i am desperatly waiting for the thread you are going to launch about "false sense of security" and " market gimmickry ". Please do paste the link in this thread to that thread.
Inshallah soon.

> Plus do tell us in which sector do you live in Islamabad? I mean the sector from where this beauty got stolen.

Lolz! The car was stolen from an even safer place than Islamabad, the incident took place in ever reputed Wah Cantt!

Frankly speaking, I am extremely surprised by the awesomeness of that little rascal genius thief who has disabled tracker, security alarm, anti-jamming device, broken the steering lock, cracked the gate lock and most importantly did all this in twenty minutes!!! Bravo man.

Thanks all for your concern, I know this is a worrisome affair to all car lovers.

@Syed-shoaib.......... Thank you bro. On your 20 minutes notion, well, let me be frank, this is the time interval I was told by the tracking company, not my own personal knowledge, since I did not find out anything about the car's disappearance before after some 6-8 hours, probably! It was weekend and I slept late till 9.30. Woke up for a cup of tea and then when leaving the house at around 11.am, found my car porch on the ground floor empty!

I then called the tracking company up to alert them on the missing car, yes, I said I called them up, though both my cell phones were on for the whole night, I was never called up by them!

According to the tracking company, they received the last signal from the car at 4.am. confirming that the car was parked at usual rest place. And according to them, the next 30 min. interval signal from the car was due to be transmitted by the tracker at 4.30 am, and it never came in!!!!!

Hence, they deduce that whatever happened, happened between 4.am and 4.30am. Supposing that the suckers still may not have entered my premises at exactly 4.am or left at exactly 4.30 before which the tracker according to the firm was deactivated, one may presume that they did it all in 20-25 minutes.

The other possibility could be that they stayed here till beyond 4.30, to take care of the remaining hindrances and locks, now secure that the tracker had been deactivated. But how can they count on that? Were they so sure of their work with the deactivation of the tracker, that they deemed it safe to stay here for longer? That's the question??!!!

And finally, there may even be the question, that if the battery tampering/ dismantling/ ignition alerts sent from the car to the network had been totally ignored by the staff there and they are now making up excuses that they received no signals at all after 4.am???????

Everything is possible, yet what stands absolutely clear, trackers are worth nothing, when the right men are their to handle them!

Regards.

[syed-shoaib]

Thanks all for your concern, I know this is a worrisome affair to all car lovers.

@Syed-shoaib.......... Thank you bro. On your 20 minutes notion, well, let me be frank, this is the time interval I was told by the tracking company, not my own personal knowledge, since I did not find out anything about the car's disappearance before after some 6-8 hours, probably! It was weekend and I slept late till 9.30. Woke up for a cup of tea and then when leaving the house at around 11.am, found my car porch on the ground floor empty!

I then called the tracking company up to alert them on the missing car, yes, I said I called them up, though both my cell phones were on for the whole night, I was never called up by them!

According to the tracking company, they received the last signal from the car at 4.am. confirming that the car was parked at usual rest place. And according to them, the next 30 min. interval signal from the car was due to be transmitted by the tracker at 4.30 am, and it never came in!!!!!

Hence, they deduce that whatever happened, happened between 4.am and 4.30am. Supposing that the suckers still may not have entered my premises at exactly 4.am or left at exactly 4.30 before which the tracker according to the firm was deactivated, one may presume that they did it all in 20-25 minutes.

The other possibility could be that they stayed here till beyond 4.30, to take care of the remaining hindrances and locks, now secure that the tracker had been deactivated. But how can they count on that? Were they so sure of their work with the deactivation of the tracker, that they deemed it safe to stay here for longer? That's the question??!!!

And finally, there may even be the question, that if the battery tampering/ dismantling/ ignition alerts sent from the car to the network had been totally ignored by the staff there and they are now making up excuses that they received no signals at all after 4.am???????

Everything is possible, yet what stands absolutely clear, trackers are worth nothing, when the right men are their to handle them!

Regards.

Frankly speaking AK471 bhai I am feeling depressed with the situation. Just have checked two time my ride standing outside in office parking. This is the most sad news of these days for me

Last signal on 4.am. that means the tracker was disabled after 4.am and this further suggests that they were in you garage minutes before 4.am. May be they have used some very strong electro-mangnetic device like some powerful magnet to diffuse the tracker signals.

The only way they can count on the fact that tracker is fully disable is that either the tracker company is involved in the theft or some person from the tracker is exactly guiding them about the disability of device. or the other way these people are unstoppable geniuses who can do anything.

Sir, if tracker company did not receive signal at 4:30 then it was their duty to call you. Why did not call? They did not recieve any signal till 09:30 morning when you called them. In this big time their whole system failed to so much extect that they even were not able to see any change in ride status? You must ask them about the situation!! This is alarming. Who was the man on duty? Why he did not call? They are equally involve and they are the prime suspects!

This is pathetic. Totally pathetic I know that this sounds very negative but I,ll never go for tracker. never. who knows that they are tracking you just to pick your ride?

regards,

[autophile]

So sad to hear about your loss brother. I hope you get your insurance claim soonest. Well it is a clear cut case of tracker company guy sleeping on duty. Sue them.

[AK471]

Frankly speaking AK471 bhai I am feeling depressed with the situation. Just have checked two time my ride standing outside in office parking. This is the most sad news of these days for me

Sir, if tracker company did not receive signal at 4:30 then it was their duty to call you. Why did not call? They did not recieve any signal till 09:30 morning when you called them. In this big time their whole system failed to so much extect that they even were not able to see any change in ride status? You must ask them about the situation!! This is alarming. Who was the man on duty? Why he did not call? They are equally involve and they are the prime suspects!

This is pathetic. Totally pathetic I know that this sounds very negative but I,ll never go for tracker. never. who knows that they are tracking you just to pick your ride?

regards,

That is exactly the question!!!!!

I've been arguing with these guys over the phone since past few days, sometimes for hourly long calls, trying to understand the logic behind all this crap, and I still haven't been able to deduce anything at all.

I exactly discussed with them the logic behind the 30 min interval transmission of tracker signals sent back to the firm by the device, that what is the use of these, if one is not called up the moment one such is missing and the status of the car has changed from rest to tampered/ drive etc, as in my case, at 4.30.am.

I was replied that they only alert the owner if status of car is not changed within 12 hours, hence from rest to drive!!!! Since I called them up at around 10.am and parked my car at around 11.30 pm in the preceding night, there was a lapse of less than 12 hours and they therefore did not call me up! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

This basically renders the 30 min interval alert needless, coz I insisted that at least during night, they should not have stuck to the 12 hour rule, but informed me instantly when there was no signal transmitted at 4.30.am. To this I was replied that since they have some 4000 cars as total fleet, it was virtually impossible to take action if signal not received from a single car!!!!!!!

As you can see, this is one big mess.

Regards.

[fawadakbarkhan]

That is exactly the question!!!!!

I've been arguing with these guys over the phone since past few days, sometimes for hourly long calls, trying to understand the logic behind all this crap, and I still haven't been able to deduce anything at all.

I exactly discussed with them the logic behind the 30 min interval transmission of tracker signals sent back to the firm by the device, that what is the use of these, if one is not called up the moment one such is missing and the status of the car has changed from rest to tampered/ drive etc, as in my case, at 4.30.am.

I was replied that they only alert the owner if status of car is not changed within 12 hours, hence from rest to drive!!!! Since I called them up at around 10.am and parked my car at around 11.30 pm in the preceding night, there was a lapse of less than 12 hours and they therefore did not call me up! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

This basically renders the 30 min interval alert needless, coz I insisted that at least during night, they should not have stuck to the 12 hour rule, but informed me instantly when there was no signal transmitted at 4.30.am. To this I was replied that since they have some 4000 cars as total fleet, it was virtually impossible to take action if signal not received from a single car!!!!!!!

As you can see, this is one big mess.

Regards.

Bro, I am a silent reader of ur thread and I got back over here after quite some time.

Yaar, believe me, I feel like crying upon hearing ur loss. It was such a beauty u had. Really tragic. I hope u get her back as soon as you can.

Bro, these trackers, security systems bla bla bla are simply "bakwas" and nothing else.

there was I in rawalpindi saddar getting security system for a Corolla Altis 09.

Meanwhile the guy installed it, I ased him whether this 6k rupees was gonna keep my car safe for some time or not. The guy just smiled at me in a LOL way as if I was drunk or something else.

He said, mere bhai, ye sirf nafsiyaati elaaj hai. Who comes near ur car these days with the mind to take it away, he WILL take it away,no matter whatever u do.

He said k ye security systems waali cars are damn easy to steal. (i don't know how, but urs is a proof they are easy)

he mentioned an instance where robbers came, stole a black prado from bahria town. the craziest thing about that was the robbers who took the tracker device out from it and put it right where the car was parked. and the tracker showed that car was right there.

I still don't believe him but this could've happened in Pakistan.

My mamoon is in police. he once caught a thief who said that he can disable any tracker installed in a car within 40 seconds by using magnets and high voltage batteries such that the tracker chip burns out where ever it is hidden in the car.

all this tracker stuff is simply bullsh*t. Just use a damn lock on ur steering wheel that is at least hard to unlock in less time.

very sorry for ur loss. hope u get ur car back very soon bro.

[pyromaniac]

So sad to learn about your loss, brother. This is indeed a very distressing and worrisome situation for all Toyota owners. Garage thefts have never been so common before but now instances like this appear to be a commonplace beside parking lot thefts and snatching.
Could you please update us about the SUM INSURED or max liability that insurance company is willing to share with you? Thanks!