REVIEW COROLLA GLI automatic 11 gen pre face lift vs BELTA 2008

[zeemee]

Would be better if you make an argument on facts and figures rather than on a word lol.

[ali454]

1.3 auto Corolla is ok to drive. The first 2 gear are powerful enough.
Underpowered means its engine will stress alot for performance thus giving a bad fuel average. It still will not give you a very spirited drive if you are into that kind of thing.

For example on the hills it will struggle to climb with load but wont give up whereas a 1.6 or above Corolla will climb with ease.

[fastian04]

It is underpowered but dheetest car ...

[hamza_xeg]

Recently sat in a Belta and i found it to be pretty roomy compared to 11 gen corolla. Corolla is okay in city and motorway driving. Even manual is underpowered on steep roads.

[zeemee]

Agreed, Corolla is reliable. From inside Belta is sufficiently spacious and you will be surprised by it's boot space.

[fastian04]

Belta is spacious but 11 gen is way more roomy.....ofcourse belta is xomfy but total crap in 1.0

[zeemee]

Belta 1.0 has better mileage
Better Suspension
Better braking
Might be a tiny bit slower.
How would you conclude it is way worse than corolla?

[fastian04]

Bhai even new generation bta..aka VIOS is rated under corolla in xomfort and space. 1.3 corolla is no doubt an underpowered car but still better than Corolla. Belta is roomy like city but corolla has bigger room bhai. Ap dimensions compare ker lain. 1.0 has lot of vibration plus for a sedan...1.0 is just not enough.

[hamza_xeg]

First time when i sat in belta i was expecting it to be cramped but actually was surprised at how much leg and head room i had. Maybe that's why i feel that way. Agreed 1.0l in a sedan doesn't make much sense. Vitz vibrates like crazy wondering what belta would be like.

[fastian04]

Vibration is the deal breaker sir...werna life time token ka apna maza hai

[hamza_xeg]

Is there any way to control or get rid of this vibration issue ?

[fastian04]

Sir g a friend changed all mountings and situation got better...but mountings are costly replacement

[zeemee]

Bro lets take about power to weight Ratio

Belta 1.0 - 70hp/990kg = 0.0707
Corolla 1.3 - 84/1275 = 0.065

Clearly Belta has better power to weight ratio, hence making it a better sedan than 1.3 Corolla on paper.

Just for comparison

1.3 Swift - 90/1050 = .0857
1.3 City - 100/1155 = 0.0865
1.6 altis - 120/1275 = .09411
1.5 City - 120/1155 = 0.1038
1.8 Altis - 138/1275 = 0.1082
1.8 Civic - 138/1267 = 0.1089
1.5H Vezel - 160/128 = 0.125

And yes Gearbox plays a huge role in how efficiently the power is used.

All figures are taken from Pakwheels.

[fastian04]

These are certainly useful calculatioms but....lets not just consider the hp in it.

A 1.3 city finds is too hard to beat a 1.3 Corolla..reason is the torque of respective engines .if a car delivers 84hp at 5000 rpm then a car which gives 100 hp on 6600 ..rpm then u know u can't take car to 6600rpm everytime to extract full power. Belta is called VIOS in rest of world and while Vios is an excellent car..its considered below Corolla segment but also in other parts of world 1.3 Corolla is not sold. They only sale 1.6 and 1.6+ models.

In Pakistan..due to 1.3 availablity.i agree to your point but then again an old model belta cannot be compared with 11gen.
Close comparison can be 10th gen...unless new vios comes here..gli is pretty unchallenged.

[usman1texh]

Steering feel is amazing on both the cars. Both are soft but my points are with Corolla on this it felt new and responsive.

I can't comment on the Belta's steering since I've never driven one but I absolutely hate the steering setup on GLi. It's vague and lacks any road feedback. Terrible steering

[fastian04]

Normally hydralic steerings give better feedback then EPS...so may be you are used hydraulic ones.

[usman1texh]

Not at all. All the current cars I have are EPS. The last hydraulic assisted steering I had was in my 8th gen civic. The setup of the corolla steering is just terrible. Although I must add that the FL Grande has a much improved steering feel and feedback. I was presently surprised when I drove a friend's FL after driving another friend's PreFL Grande.

[fastian04]

I have no driving experience with pre FL Corolla..so no comments... May be tyres are responsible too

[zeemee]

Agreed that Corolla Steering is very soft, but for city driving I would prefer Corolla's steering over civic. You don't even have to hold it with one hand, couple of fingers suffice. I wasn't a fan of Toyota's steering too but they have made my life easier in city driving.
Corolla Steering position is a bit awkward though.
If you're driving at 120 km/hr plus then I would say that Civics steering gives you better control and confidence.

One other thing is tyres quality does have an affect on steering feel.

[usman1texh]

Yeah it's personal preference. I just find corollas steering to be very floaty and vague. It lacks road feedback and precision. Some people prefer it that way because it is soft and mushy