The EV Thread. Fully Electric Vehicles Exclusive Discussion

[j_aquil]

600 Km CLTC is always exaggerated , real-world range will be different.

[ifadey]

Too much incorrect information regarding Forthing Friday. Here's the data from official spec sheet

Claimed range for 64.4 kWh battery pack EV is 500 km CLTC which roughly translates to
482 km NEDC
410 km WLTP
351 km EPA

For EREV or REEV (whatever you want to call it), the claimed range 1150 km CLTC is combined range of full charge of battery + full tank of fuel.

1109 km NEDC
943 km WLTP
807 km EPA

[j_aquil]

So in Pakistan they are bringing the smaller battery pack range for BEV version 64.4 kWh vs 85.9 for UAE and other international market. Smaller battery pack lower the cost the battery pack accounts for roughly 15% to 25% of the vehicle's total cost.

[j_aquil]

Sales of EV motorbikes surge despite infrastructural challenges

EV motorbike sales in Pakistan have jumped to 57,800 units in 2025, with expectations to reach 100,000 by year-end

Despite challenges in road infrastructure, sales of Electric Vehicle (EV) motorbikes have seen remarkable growth across all social segments in Pakistan. According to local market sources reported by the Business Recorder, approximately 15,000 units were sold in a single month (July 2025) by around 45 two-wheeler companies. This surge is supported by both provincial and federal government initiatives aimed at promoting EVs and reducing environmental pollution.

EV sales have risen sharply over the past few years. In 2022, only 2,000 units were sold, while 6,000 units were sold in 2023. By 2024, this number reached 33,000, and in the first seven months of 2025 alone, 57,800 units have been sold. Industry insiders predict that the total number of EV motorbike sales could hit 100,000 by the end of the year.

As a result, manufacturers have ramped up production, with monthly output reaching 7,000 units since January 2025. Leading brands such as Evee, Metro, and Vlektraare have introduced various models equipped with advanced features, including anti-theft alarms, safety breakers, tubeless tires, and motor and battery warranties to attract customers.

pakistantoday

[darthvader]

800km is what you expect a normal hybrid car to do. H6 HEV can achieve this easily. So why would someone buy this unknown brand car in the same price range?

[mgalaxy3]

So about 350km EV range and combined with petrol around 850km.

Same question as @darthvader - hybrids and PHEVs can do the same. Question then becomes of cost . Which is cheaper to drive 800km? This REEV, PHEV or hybrid ?

Answer might be:
if you got enough solar at home to daily charge the REEV, it will save significant amount in fuel at least in city drives.. in long journeys it might be more expensive than a normal hybrid if public charging needed.

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P.S Chinese vehicles really need to stop advertising ridiculous numbers like 1100km+ like they’re doing for this REEV .

[pwuser164163568474]

So the real advantage of REEV is the fact that the engine runs at a very consistent speed and does not kick on until the range is about to be depleted. Furthermore this should reduce any kind of engine vibrations felt from hybrids while allowing you to drive something that feels fully electric.

I'm not trying to say that one should buy a REEV, I'm just trying to list its purpose.

Which is cheaper to drive 800km? This REEV, PHEV or hybrid ?

Totally situational on what would be cheaper. If you need to drive long distances, highways/motorways, then a simple HEV vehicle would benefit the most because the engine gets support from the batteries and it has the least extra weight. If we're talking about bumper to bumper traffic then the REEV and PHEV will be able to win out with their fully electric drive, but a REEV would have a bigger battery than a PHEV so that would win. Electric cars should be cheaper to drive even without solar when charged at home (not done any calculations, please correct me if wrong).

When looking at the values that @ifadey posted;
battery+ fuel 807 km EPA - 351 km EPA battery = 456 km EPA fuel
approx 456 km over a 43L tank should net you around 10.8 km/l

That does sound quite low; meaning that to get a cost benefit one should really only charge at home and try to fully run off the battery.

[j_aquil]

LETIN MENGO

New Chinese EV maker enters Pakistan

Punjab is set to welcome a new wave of industrial investment as China's Letin Auto Group has announced plans to set up a small electric vehicle (EV) manufacturing plant in the province.

A 15-member delegation of the company, led by its General Manager Xu Zhen, met with Punjab's Minister for Industries and Commerce Chaudhry Shafay Hussain in Lahore to discuss details of the project and the potential incentives available.

The minister assured the delegation of full support from the provincial government and said Punjab was offering attractive facilities to investors, including a 10-year income tax holiday and duty-free import of machinery for plants being set up in the Special Economic Zones.
In 2023, the group, with its trading name Levdeo Automobile Group, applied for bankruptcy in China and completed its bankruptcy reorganisation in 2024. Auto sector experts believe that the group may want to relocate and make Pakistan its base for local sales and exports, since Pakistan, particularly Punjab, is offering decent incentives and has won the least US tariff of 19%.

Analysts also point out that Pakistan's EV policy has given a significant push to this momentum. Reduced customs duties on EV parts and favourable tariff structures have already encouraged imports, but local assembly and manufacturing is the next step. If companies like Letin Auto move ahead with their projects, it will not only help reduce reliance on imports but also support the development of an entire supply chain, including battery and component industries.

https://tribune.com.pk/

[mgalaxy3]

Letin mango ? Seriously.

Another awkward looking and weird sounding name. Inverex, a solar giant, already failed at this, what can we expect from others?

Why a small/mid size EV can’t be made in china that is decent looking and doesn’t have a horrible name?

[j_aquil]

Chinese company to build $1bn lithium battery plant in Oman

A Chinese company is set to build a $1 billion lithium battery plant in Oman, a move that underscores China’s growing footprint in the Middle East’s clean energy supply chain and Oman’s ambition to become a key regional hub for green technology.

The agreement was signed between Oman’s Public Authority for Special Economic Zones and Free Zones (OPAZ) and Chinese manufacturer GCL Technology Holdings. The facility will be situated in the Duqm Special Economic Zone, one of the Arabian Gulf’s fastest-growing industrial hubs, offering direct access to shipping routes and global markets.

The project is expected to have an annual production capacity of 25 gigawatt-hours. It will manufacture lithium-iron-phosphate (LFP) batteries, which are widely used in electric vehicles (EVs), energy storage systems, and renewable energy applications. Construction is scheduled to begin in the second half of 2025, with initial production set to commence by 2027.

Oman, which has historically relied on hydrocarbons for its revenue, is accelerating its Vision 2040 economic diversification plan, targeting growth in renewables, logistics, and advanced manufacturing.

“This investment reflects Oman’s commitment to building a sustainable industrial future,” said a senior OPAZ official in a statement. “It positions the sultanate as a key player in the energy transition across the Middle East and Africa.”

menews247.com/

[j_aquil]

[mgalaxy3]

Probably the most confused launch..

Has unibody frame and not for off-roading either.
Slow acceleration for an EV above 7 seconds (which they call “extreme acceleration”).

385 CLTC range so let’s assume significantly low in reality maybe ?

Can someone answer, what is it built for really?

[pwuser167550015690]

It's mostly urban and rural driving - not off-roading - despite their claims. This is what 99% of pickup trucks in Pakistan are used for anyways so not really a problem.

In that use case, you get a much more comfortable ride because of being built on a crossover platform vs a ladder-frame like a regular truck.

Also, where are you getting the range figures from? The specs I had seen earlier for the Pakistani variants all had the 73 kWh battery pack except the top of the line variant which had the 86 kWh pack.

Claimed ranges for all of them were 420km or above on the NEDC cycle, which is good for a 4WD EV truck with a battery on the smaller side. Top variant also had like sub 5-second 0-100 km/h acceleration.

Not sure if they'd end up launching all 4 variants here in Pakistan though and the price they settle on for each because that's what would make it or break it.

[j_aquil]

A global player in electric vehicles (EVs) and energy storage is making a significant entry into Oman with a $150 million investment in manufacturing and technological innovation. In an exclusive interview with the Observer, Simardeep Chhabra, Director and CEO of ELB&T, outlined the company’s plans to establish a state-of-the-art EV and battery production hub in the Special Economic Zone at Duqm (SEZAD).

ELB&T plans to set up a manufacturing facility in Duqm dedicated to EV production, Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) battery assembly, and Energy Storage Systems (ESS). The EV plant is expected to produce 30,000 vehicles annually, while the battery facility will manufacture up to 1.4 million cells per year. The ESS plant will generate between 1,200 MW and 1,400 MW in energy storage capacity.

LEVERAGING DUQM’S ECONOMIC ZONE

SEZAD will serve as ELB&T’s regional base, providing logistical and regulatory advantages. “Duqm offers world-class port facilities and economic incentives that will allow us to streamline exports and establish strong trade links across the Gulf, South Asia, and East Africa,” Chhabra noted. The zone’s tax exemptions and infrastructure support will further enhance ELB&T’s operational efficiency and long-term business viability.
With Duqm’s growing reputation as an industrial and logistics hub, ELB&T’s presence is expected to attract additional investment in related industries, including battery recycling, charging infrastructure, and smart mobility solutions.
omansustainabilityweek

Oman-Kuwait JV to open $9bn Duqm crude oil refinery

The $9 billion OQ8 crude oil refinery, which has a daily capacity of 230,000 barrels, will be inaugurated on Wednesday.
The refinery has been developed by Duqm Refinery and Petrochemical Industries, a joint venture between Oman’s OQ Group and state-run Kuwait Petroleum International. Also, the oil storage facility at Ras Markaz, with a capacity of 25 million barrels, is poised to become the largest oil storage site in the Middle East and among the largest in the world.

agbi,com

With an area of 2,000 km2 and a coastline of 80 km, Special Economic Zone at Duqm (SEZAD) is currently the largest special economic zone in the Middle Eastern and North African (MENA) region. It is a strategically located transshipment point for goods moving between Asia, Europe, and Africa and provides a crucial node in facilitating global trade and connectivity. The Sino-Oman (Duqm) Industrial Park is a major industrial park that is being developed within the SEZAD and is expected to attract investment of around US$10 billion.

https://duqm.gov.om/en

[j_aquil]

[j_aquil]

[pwuser175343085010]

[pwuser167550015690]

A fleet of new P7 drove themselves from the factory to the shipping yard.

The new Turing based autonomous driving system in the P7 is even more advanced that Huawei's ADS 4.0. Kind of incredible how Xpeng has managed to deliver something that is not only an absolute stunner in terms of looks, but also incredible in terms of performance and price.

Top spec costs just around USD $43,000 while the base variant is around USD $30,000. Directly converting to PKR (which you should never do) places it below the new Haval H6 PHEV in terms of price in Pakistan.

If someone ever partners with Xpeng and launches this spec for spec in Pakistan, it could probably have a starting price of around PKR 18 million for the base and go up to PKR 25 million for the top spec.

[j_aquil]

[pwuser164163568474]

I had a look at the showroom for this. It's a nice addition to the market. Interior felt a little cramped but leg space is adequate (imagine sportage/tucson). The Atto 3 felt much roomier in the backseats, but what you lose in rear leg room you gain in trunk space with the Jaecoo J6. Build quality seemed quite solid, doors were really heavy. I can see this getting competition away from Atto 3s market