Tint limit

[faiz.aslam.121]

Yup btw how do u get 1 on ur car?

Sent from my C6602 using PW Forums mobile app

Tbh, I have never had one. I think you stick on on either top corner of your windscreen. It works like a remote, giving out a signal when you're close to the toll booth. They only work in Faisalabad, Lahore, Peshawar and Faisalabad AFAIK.

It looks like a little box, 4x4 inches.

Go to nearest motorway interchange where they have it and ask them for it.
You will have to show CNIC and pay some money.

Say you travel from Islamabad to Pindi Bhattian and you entered using E-tag, you can save money by lying that you entered using the nearest interchange i.e you will need to pay less since you don't have any proof neither do they where you entered from!

[Lakhwaira]

Its a hit and miss with tints and the police. If you're in a flashy car, and by flashy I'm indicating either a new local sedan or one of the more insanely expensively brands/luxury vehicles, chances are you will not get stopped. Government license plates also grant you a free pass.

I only have two reasons to get tints:

1. To reduce heat
2. To add a little privacy and avoid the inconvenience of having removable shades.

I was recently pulled over for having 50% tints in Lahore and the situation got out of hand with the cops. I think I probably didn't handle the situation well lol...but what happened is a separate story.

The Ministry of Interior issues permits for tints but I am not sure how to go about procuring one. I also have NEVER come across the exact clause that states tints are illegal. So far I have been verbally hearing this from friends and the police, or through the media. However; it would help to read what the law exactly dictates as far as tinting goes.

Does anyone happen to know what is exactly stated by Law? Is there a permissible limit?

[awais.9]

@lakhwaira
tints arent allowed,anything used to block the view is not allowed including shades but they can be removed, n placed back. same thing wid curtains.
its totally on their mood,they even let go cars wid jet black tints
i remember when i had jet black tints,i passed through check post near parliament signal,no one stopped me but whenever i had same tints wid windows opened they stopped me
ministry of interior doesnt issues it to every1 just to people wid references,i remember some1 was selling that permit for some 8k last year but govt cancels such permits whenever they wish n ITP still challans you,heck they even challaned a friend for using shades so who knows

i just hope no one stops me,if any1 removed my tints,i'll get 25% on whole car + add shade to the rear windshield n use curtains on all 4, that'll make it dark again lol

i really dont get it,they have no issue wid shades where as if u use one on rear windshield that is same thing as tint there,i have been observing that on different cars

[Lakhwaira]

Yeah, the Law is just a formality but if you have the right documents, its fun to slap it in the face of most of the crappy police officers. My experience with the Traffic Police has been better but I just flare up when I get pulled over...that makes the situation hard to manage lol.

The police over here specifically asked about the permit, which I didn't have, so I assume they won't make a fuss if you have one. I have to find out how to get that permit issued, if I find any details and if you're interested, let me know.

@Lakhwaira
tints arent allowed,anything used to block the view is not allowed including shades but they can be removed, n placed back. same thing wid curtains.
its totally on their mood,they even let go cars wid jet black tints
i remember when i had jet black tints,i passed through check post near parliament signal,no one stopped me but whenever i had same tints wid windows opened they stopped me
ministry of interior doesnt issues it to every1 just to people wid references,i remember some1 was selling that permit for some 8k last year but govt cancels such permits whenever they wish n ITP still challans you,heck they even challaned a friend for using shades so who knows

i just hope no one stops me,if any1 removed my tints,i'll get 25% on whole car + add shade to the rear windshield n use curtains on all 4, that'll make it dark again lol

i really dont get it,they have no issue wid shades where as if u use one on rear windshield that is same thing as tint there,i have been observing that on different cars

[awais.9]

Yeah, the Law is just a formality but if you have the right documents, its fun to slap it in the face of most of the crappy police officers. My experience with the Traffic Police has been better but I just flare up when I get pulled over...that makes the situation hard to manage lol.

The police over here specifically asked about the permit, which I didn't have, so I assume they won't make a fuss if you have one. I have to find out how to get that permit issued, if I find any details and if you're interested, let me know.

its been a long time any1 asked for documents from me,last few times they stopped me for using curtains they just asked name cnic cell no etc n wrote them down.

the more u get angry the worst it will be,theyll use other reasons to add up in ticket n u cant do anything,ask nicely n they might let u go

yea i'd love to have a permit n get full car tinted just to rub it in their faces who annoy only few of us,was thinking to contact that user but dont remember his id anymore

the process as i knew was u go there n apply for it stating reason but again they wouldnt issue it to us widout some strong reference.

went through expressway n came back no one stopped
but dont know whats gonna happen tomorrow at sunday bazar where its whole army if itp officers

Sent from my cell using PW Forums mobile app

[Lakhwaira]

Lol Let me know how it goes at the Sunday Bazaar.

If you're too polite with officers, they'll walk all over you, if you're too harsh..it just gets complicated but you'll come out victorious in the end. Thats what happened in my case. When the SHO eventually reached the scene, he listened to me and then apologized and gave me his personal number and asked to not hesitate if any problem occurs again. I don't look my age, so that makes it even more difficult. I usually get passed off as a kid lol.

I can probably find a good reference for the permit but I'll ask around and will let you know what I find. Usually when the police have nothing to point a finger at, you'll see that look of...well..when a dog has its tail between its legs and off you go lol.

its been a long time any1 asked for documents from me,last few times they stopped me for using curtains they just asked name cnic cell no etc n wrote them down.

the more u get angry the worst it will be,theyll use other reasons to add up in ticket n u cant do anything,ask nicely n they might let u go

yea i'd love to have a permit n get full car tinted just to rub it in their faces who annoy only few of us,was thinking to contact that user but dont remember his id anymore

the process as i knew was u go there n apply for it stating reason but again they wouldnt issue it to us widout some strong reference.

went through expressway n came back no one stopped
but dont know whats gonna happen tomorrow at sunday bazar where its whole army if itp officers

Sent from my cell using PW Forums mobile app

[awais.9]

Lol Let me know how it goes at the Sunday Bazaar.

If you're too polite with officers, they'll walk all over you, if you're too harsh..it just gets complicated but you'll come out victorious in the end. Thats what happened in my case. When the SHO eventually reached the scene, he listened to me and then apologized and gave me his personal number and asked to not hesitate if any problem occurs again. I don't look my age, so that makes it even more difficult. I usually get passed off as a kid lol.

I can probably find a good reference for the permit but I'll ask around and will let you know what I find. Usually when the police have nothing to point a finger at, you'll see that look of...well..when a dog has its tail between its legs and off you go lol.

hahaha that phrase at the end
well normally here if u try to argue,they'll add more violations like for example if u r caught speeding,n u argue they'll add one for tint or even for share/curtain n then if u got exhaust n what not n wont let u off widout a ticket no matter what,two pw members got a challan on tints even when they tried talking to the officer @mgk @hellsguardian
maybe in lhr its different

[Lakhwaira]

hahaha that phrase at the end
well normally here if u try to argue,they'll add more violations like for example if u r caught speeding,n u argue they'll add one for tint or even for share/curtain n then if u got exhaust n what not n wont let u off widout a ticket no matter what,two pw members got a challan on tints even when they tried talking to the officer @MGK @HellsGuardian
maybe in lhr its different

I always weasel my way out and have done so in many incidents and ways. I once TOTALLY flipped at a Traffic Warden and then...gathered myself..and went totally soft and told him my side and apologized and he didn't even blink, shook my hand and told me I can leave lol. He probably thought I was psychotic hahaha and feared for his life maybe.

I've been pulled over once in ISB, that too when I was entering ISB. They had enough to pin against me (vehicle was not on my name, token tax wasn't paid) but I was staying in Kashmir House at that time and just told them "Mein Kashmir House jaraha hoon, ub aap khud hi soch lo challan kernay say pehlay."....and off I went.

I guess the point is, if we have to follow whatever rules are laid down, then it has to be followed across the board and it has to be fair. I'm sure people would love to pay for a permit to tint their vehicles, but due to how corrupt everyone is at every level of government, that would definitely get abused. But no matter how many laws are made here or broken, the current state of affairs are still poor. Cops give a tough time to people with proper gun permits....yet crime rates still soar. So...when you think about it...what point is there to following the law?

But as a rule of thumb, its better to have all documentation straight so you don't have to go through the hassle of dealing with the authorities to begin with. Its a waste of time and energy and you can come out on top.

[MGK]

Lol Let me know how it goes at the Sunday Bazaar.

If you're too polite with officers, they'll walk all over you, if you're too harsh..it just gets complicated but you'll come out victorious in the end. Thats what happened in my case. When the SHO eventually reached the scene, he listened to me and then apologized and gave me his personal number and asked to not hesitate if any problem occurs again. I don't look my age, so that makes it even more difficult. I usually get passed off as a kid lol.

I can probably find a good reference for the permit but I'll ask around and will let you know what I find. Usually when the police have nothing to point a finger at, you'll see that look of...well..when a dog has its tail between its legs and off you go lol.

This doesn't works with ITP officers my bro yehi toh masla hai.

[Lakhwaira]

@mgk - You are probably right, I haven't had a proper run in over there to know what the mindset of the cops are, but I don't know why my trick worked when I was there lol. I just prefer to not have a run in at all since some of them may abuse their power and we all know they already do.

In Lahore they're not that strict. I do not get pulled over frequently here, but when I do, it very rarely is a peaceful encounter because they assume I'm a kid and that I'm easy to push over because my Urdu isn't great.

We ourselves don't know what our rights are over here...or what the law exactly states. So I doubt a dumbass constable or officer has it memorized either. They mostly follow orders, so "no tints" means "no tints" to them. I'm sure the clause states that the interior or passengers must be visible, if not, then it is illegal. Technically, if your vehicle has tints that are 25% -50% black/grey, you are still visible to people peeking in from the outside. I would find 100% really difficult to drive around in since the side mirrors and rear view are just impossible to see at night.

The problem isn't the law, it is the people who are suppose to enforce it. They misconstrue what is stated and then do as they please. Frankly speaking, I'm quite fed up with the state of affairs in this country and I'm only here because I have no better option. So its just another "khwari" to deal with on top of the load shedding and gas shedding. Wait till we have water problems..thats when life will get really fun...

[oshahid2010]

Its a hit and miss with tints and the police. If you're in a flashy car, and by flashy I'm indicating either a new local sedan or one of the more insanely expensively brands/luxury vehicles, chances are you will not get stopped. Government license plates also grant you a free pass.

I only have two reasons to get tints:

1. To reduce heat
2. To add a little privacy and avoid the inconvenience of having removable shades.

I was recently pulled over for having 50% tints in Lahore and the situation got out of hand with the cops. I think I probably didn't handle the situation well lol...but what happened is a separate story.

The Ministry of Interior issues permits for tints but I am not sure how to go about procuring one. I also have NEVER come across the exact clause that states tints are illegal. So far I have been verbally hearing this from friends and the police, or through the media. However; it would help to read what the law exactly dictates as far as tinting goes.

Does anyone happen to know what is exactly stated by Law? Is there a permissible limit?

I think you are allowed to use tints if u get a letter from a doctor that you have problems with heat/sun

[MGK]

@MGK - You are probably right, I haven't had a proper run in over there to know what the mindset of the cops are, but I don't know why my trick worked when I was there lol. I just prefer to not have a run in at all since some of them may abuse their power and we all know they already do.

In Lahore they're not that strict. I do not get pulled over frequently here, but when I do, it very rarely is a peaceful encounter because they assume I'm a kid and that I'm easy to push over because my Urdu isn't great.

We ourselves don't know what our rights are over here...or what the law exactly states. So I doubt a dumbass constable or officer has it memorized either. They mostly follow orders, so "no tints" means "no tints" to them. I'm sure the clause states that the interior or passengers must be visible, if not, then it is illegal. Technically, if your vehicle has tints that are 25% -50% black/grey, you are still visible to people peeking in from the outside. I would find 100% really difficult to drive around in since the side mirrors and rear view are just impossible to see at night.

The problem isn't the law, it is the people who are suppose to enforce it. They misconstrue what is stated and then do as they please. Frankly speaking, I'm quite fed up with the state of affairs in this country and I'm only here because I have no better option. So its just another "khwari" to deal with on top of the load shedding and gas shedding. Wait till we have water problems..thats when life will get really fun...

you are right brother i agree with you.

[qwertypoiu]

Every summer Pakwheels gets a tint topic and same discussion goes on.

[Lakhwaira]

Every summer Pakwheels gets a tint topic and same discussion goes on.

Pakwheels needs a permanent thread where some of these basics are covered or it lists the traffic laws as stated by the regulating authorities. That would be educative and helpful for many of us. I don't mind following the rules, especially if its beneficial for one another.

[awais.9]

doctor thing is very old n all cops know about it so doesnt works

there was a tint thread "tint permit" but it got locked so a new thread

so car went to sunday bazaar today no check post issues,as for itp, they asked y r u using it,asked to remove n let go

most of them say car should b visible from inside which means tints wid light shade but even then police annoys

i guess i wont go for window tints,not even 25% as em not getting a challan nor they r removing them seeing that windows dont have any so its all good

Sent from my cell using PW Forums mobile app

[HellsGuardian]

hahaha that phrase at the end
well normally here if u try to argue,they'll add more violations like for example if u r caught speeding,n u argue they'll add one for tint or even for share/curtain n then if u got exhaust n what not n wont let u off widout a ticket no matter what,two pw members got a challan on tints even when they tried talking to the officer @MGK @HellsGuardian
maybe in lhr its different

mera to chalaan aya hi tints par tha but yes i argued on that even... no use though

[awais.9]

mera to chalaan aya hi tints par tha but yes i argued on that even... no use though

i know but they didnt let u go even when u tried
a friend got a ticket,he was stopped again then he just just showed them previous ticket so no new ticket

i dont wanna remove my jet black tints n now em getting used to this big patti on front
the rear one makes visibility low for rear passenger seats if some1 peeks from outside widout any tint
parked the car under a tree,tried looking in car when some1 was sitting on front passenger seat n i couldnt see any1 in car

[MJunaidFarrukh]

my tints on alto were removed on the check post (after you take the right turn on round about at rawal dam) while going to uni (comsats).
there was no use of arguing as they talk in so rude manner etc.

Now, while i was coming back home, i cross a check post near Musharaf's farm house, there was a red khyber at check post with full jet black tints, i though it was stopped because of tint or something. Then i saw that khyber again at same check post next day and so on, and i concluded, that was owned by any thulla standing on check post and is having complete tints as he is out of law.

I saw that khyber again, around 2 days ago on same check post, and only front jet black tints were removed but rear and boot tints were still there.
I will surely try to take pic if i see that again and will post here

[HellsGuardian]

little off-topic, anybody saw excise inspectors today at checkpost on kashmir highway, near g-9 4?
they were stopping 80% of the vehicles (all type).

He asked me for papers, i showed him attested copy, he said attached copy of last paid token too and let me go... I wonder what was up today

i know but they didnt let u go even when u tried
a friend got a ticket,he was stopped again then he just just showed them previous ticket so no new ticket

i dont wanna remove my jet black tints n now em getting used to this big patti on front
the rear one makes visibility low for rear passenger seats if some1 peeks from outside widout any tint
parked the car under a tree,tried looking in car when some1 was sitting on front passenger seat n i couldnt see any1 in car

yea no new ticket till 7 days
i also have rear windshield tinted since last year. No front patti though... I also sometimes use shades but so far nobody stopped.

[awais.9]

little off-topic, anybody saw excise inspectors today at checkpost on kashmir highway, near g-9 4?
they were stopping 80% of the vehicles (all type).

He asked me for papers, i showed him attested copy, he said attached copy of last paid token too and let me go... I wonder what was up today

yea no new ticket till 7 days
i also have rear windshield tinted since last year. No front patti though... I also sometimes use shades but so far nobody stopped.

maybe they were checking for ncp cars
y didnt u had last paid token attached?i have attested copy wid last paid token

i also had rear tinted from 1yr+ which from few months had turned completely brown n was like if it wasnt even there
i got front one only for night time drive