Toyota Belta Owners & Fan Club

[frahan83]

Dear All,

I have RockMars Model: DD-7205BT installed in my Belta (Car bought nearly a month ago).
I connect a usb to play music. The system works fine but it suddenly hangs and stops playing music usually on a bumpy road or whenever car gets a jerk, the touch does work in this condition but useless because with touch u can select different songs or options on the screen but the music doesn't play. It only plays again when I reconnect the usb or restart the system.
Secondly for the last two days when I started my car in the morning the Rockmars system didn't start, I tried everything I could do but of no use. But after travelling for about 20 minutes or so it automatically started.
I am totally confused that wats the problem and how to get it rectified?

[huzaifakhan69]

Salam every one i am owner of a belta car 1300 cc white colour, it is 2006 and 2012 islam abad registered. it is an excellent car i used it for 1 and a half year but due to some domestic issues i need to sell it off . Can u plz help me of the recent market trends like what shud b the demand for it and for how much shuld i sell it off. more over the car is in excellent condition ...... waiting for a considered reply. thnx

[huzaifakhan69]

salam every one here i m owner of a belta 1300 cc car, it is 2006 model and 2012 islam abad registered the car is of white colour and is in excellent condition, i used it for 1 and a half year and really enjoyed its ride but now due to some domestic issues need to sell it off, need ur valuable suggestions with regards to that what shud i demand and on how much shud i sell it off. i m sure ur suggestion will make my work easy. waiting for a considered reply , thanx......

[siddiquitauseef]

internal lights were not working issues has been resolved ...first fuse was changed then he opend the steering completely and did some cleaning and issue has been resolved ....

i need to know the difference bertween D and S ,in what scenario to use S mode .....i always drive in D mode ,even on motorway ....kindy guide....

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[tyrone_40]

internal lights were not working issues has been resolved ...first fuse was changed then he opend the steering completely and did some cleaning and issue has been resolved ....

i need to know the difference bertween D and S ,in what scenario to use S mode .....i always drive in D mode ,even on motorway ....kindy guide....

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Thanks for posting feedback so others can learn

[frahan83]

internal lights were not working issues has been resolved ...first fuse was changed then he opend the steering completely and did some cleaning and issue has been resolved ....

i need to know the difference bertween D and S ,in what scenario to use S mode .....i always drive in D mode ,even on motorway ....kindy guide....

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Dear,

I have worked a lot on to know the working of D, S and B both on the internet and then practically as well on different roads.
what i can tell u from my experience is that..

D is for Normal Drive.....If u r driving on leveled roads drive on D...

S is for Sports and Slopes Both....If u r driving on slopes like uphill or downhill slopes Drive in S...(Practically experienced on Pir Sohawa Slopes with my 1000 cc Belta and overtook every other car even 1300 cc manuals while climbing up but with D were not able to do so and car speed reduces while climbing thus car needs more power and more time to climb up on D so more fuel consumption. As D is economical on flat roads similarly S is economical on slopes)

Secondly S is for Sports as well if u want more pick and want the car to speed up early then go for S. Actually in S the gear changes at higher RPM than normal(D). The car will achieve a certain speed in less time...so if u r not able to overtake someone on a flat road, with S u can do that.

Third is B...that is basically engine Brake...it is for two purposes...one is for very steep upward or downward slopes...for example if the upward slope is too steep and ur car refuses to go more up even on S go for B the car will climb up but definitely in a slow speed. and if the downward slope is too steep...and it seems a bit dangerous to control the car and u r applying brakes again and again r continuously ur foot is on brake pedal, then go for B... the car will automatically controls its speed through engine brakes and the car speed will automatically be controlled on a very steep downward slope otherwise by applying continuous brake the brake may heat up and get jammed so not advisable.

Secondly B is used when so ever ur car is towing another car..it is just to give a better control and save the transmission from unnecessary shifts...

(everything experienced practically except for towing a Vehicle.......

Hope my post have cleared the functions of D,S and B.

[frahan83]

Dear All,

I have RockMars Model: DD-7205BT installed in my Belta (Car bought nearly a month ago).
I connect a usb to play music. The system works fine but it suddenly hangs and stops playing music usually on a bumpy road or whenever car gets a jerk, the touch does work in this condition but useless because with touch u can select different songs or options on the screen but the music doesn't play. It only plays again when I reconnect the usb or restart the system.
Secondly for the last two days when I started my car in the morning the Rockmars system didn't start, I tried everything I could do but of no use. But after travelling for about 20 minutes or so it automatically started.
I am totally confused that wats the problem and how to get it rectified?

No one has yet replied my post...
coz now the display of Rockmars has also gone.....
when i start the system, after some time display disappears and then after few seconds the music also stops and system shuts down..

[aamir771]

hi....anyone there!!!
i have recently bought a belta 2006 Regd in 08, 1000 cc, it is an excellent car but i am facing a problem with its low mileage, people had told me that it gives 18-19 km/litre in the city and upto 22 km in long drive, but i have experienced 11-12 km/ltr in local. I have changed its oil(Zic A+), and air filters but mileage is same even after engine tuning. A mechanic at "toyota east motors karachi" told me that its mileage will remain the same 11/12 km and that people just lie about 18-19 km/ltr, is it so??
can somebody plz tell me how to increase its mileage??
no one is replying............

[saif3187]

hi....anyone there!!!
i have recently bought a belta 2006 Regd in 08, 1000 cc, it is an excellent car but i am facing a problem with its low mileage, people had told me that it gives 18-19 km/litre in the city and upto 22 km in long drive, but i have experienced 11-12 km/ltr in local. I have changed its oil(Zic A+), and air filters but mileage is same even after engine tuning. A mechanic at "toyota east motors karachi" told me that its mileage will remain the same 11/12 km and that people just lie about 18-19 km/ltr, is it so??
can somebody plz tell me how to increase its mileage??
no one is replying............

At the moment i am also getting 10 in local till now.. around 15 on highway.. Did u change the spark plugs ?

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[memphisblue]

hi....anyone there!!!
i have recently bought a belta 2006 Regd in 08, 1000 cc, it is an excellent car but i am facing a problem with its low mileage, people had told me that it gives 18-19 km/litre in the city and upto 22 km in long drive, but i have experienced 11-12 km/ltr in local. I have changed its oil(Zic A+), and air filters but mileage is same even after engine tuning. A mechanic at "toyota east motors karachi" told me that its mileage will remain the same 11/12 km and that people just lie about 18-19 km/ltr, is it so??
can somebody plz tell me how to increase its mileage??
no one is replying............

If you go through this thread you will find that various members have complained about this and they have been given various tips to increase mileage. Please understand that no two cars are alike even if they are the same model, since no two cars have been driven under identical conditions. Besides getting the car tuned, changing the plugs (if required), oil, filters (oil/air) some other variables also come in to play such as a) Keeping an optimum tyre pressure b) Keeping the recommended tyres and last but the most important one c) Grooming your driving habits for better fuel economy. Some great tips on a higher mileage are given here : Fuel Saving Tips | Fuelly.

Please also share how exactly are you calculating the mileage? I personally recommend topping the tank off and seeing how many KM it runs for. Repeat alteast 3 times in order to get a true average.

[unware]

No one has yet replied my post...
coz now the display of Rockmars has also gone.....
when i start the system, after some time display disappears and then after few seconds the music also stops and system shuts down..

Dear you need to wait for a music gem, I have never liked the built-in sound system in my belta as well, planning to spend some rupees The issue with skipping track or disconnection might be due to loose USB connector ?? We know if a USB connector is sparked or loose, it will for sure stop your media. Get that checked. Sounds like faulty wiring or short-circuit. Electrician's job brother. Sorry cant help much.

[unware]

@frahan83

Very well explained there was some confusion earlier on this thread until the operator's manual came in town. I posted some inquiry on another website and 13 out of 18 people said they floor their padel and shift to S from D to get some fun/power. Bottom line is how you treat your car, it treats back

[unware]

hi....anyone there!!!
i have recently bought a belta 2006 Regd in 08, 1000 cc, it is an excellent car but i am facing a problem with its low mileage, people had told me that it gives 18-19 km/litre in the city and upto 22 km in long drive, but i have experienced 11-12 km/ltr in local. I have changed its oil(Zic A+), and air filters but mileage is same even after engine tuning. A mechanic at "toyota east motors karachi" told me that its mileage will remain the same 11/12 km and that people just lie about 18-19 km/ltr, is it so??
can somebody plz tell me how to increase its mileage??
no one is replying............

Brother there is tons of material discussed in earlier posts on this thread and do consult other websites as well, Belta amazes you in mileage, some getting 10, 11. Others claim to get 16 and plus. Depends on fuel quality, properly tunned engine, condition of engine bay parts and etc ... Main point under consideration was always about driver's behavior consider a raw egg under your accelerator pedal and drive for couple of hundreds of kms and check average. I heard it varies from 1.0 to 1.3 liter engines.

[siddiquitauseef]

oh thank u so much for such a nice explanation and sharing your experience and technicalities....yeah i have also felt the same about D and S so far...
u mentioned about pir suhawa slopes but on a particular turn how did u manage to drive the car on S bec car is very slow like first gear in manual ,so at that particular turn S is really effective or B is effective????

one more question what is the maxium speed u can get on 1000cc belta whether u r driving on D or S ,on motorway i hit 120 on D but now i will drive on S on motorway and long drive bec i love the feeling when the other car passed behind.

what is the recommended maximun speed of 1000cc belta ???

i have 1000cc 2007 belta ....

[tyrone_40]

@memphisblue, did you get your belta issue resolved?????

[frahan83]

oh thank u so much for such a nice explanation and sharing your experience and technicalities....yeah i have also felt the same about D and S so far...
u mentioned about pir suhawa slopes but on a particular turn how did u manage to drive the car on S bec car is very slow like first gear in manual ,so at that particular turn S is really effective or B is effective????

one more question what is the maxium speed u can get on 1000cc belta whether u r driving on D or S ,on motorway i hit 120 on D but now i will drive on S on motorway and long drive bec i love the feeling when the other car passed behind.

what is the recommended maximun speed of 1000cc belta ???

i have 1000cc 2007 belta ....

Dear,

I have also 1000 cc 2007 Belta...

I didn't get which turn u r talking about. Actually we did a lot of experiments on the slopes, even made the car to halt at the steepest slopes while climbing and then again pressed the pedal. The car climbed without going back whereas the manuals go back some distance and then move up even on 1[SUP]st[/SUP] gear. We used S on all slopes, B just for experiment purposes bcoz car climbed every slope in S easily on Pirsohawa, no need for B coz it is for very steep slopes and the car speed also becomes very slow. If at all car halts on S then switch over to B.

(Note : We also experienced that if u change from D to S during a steep climb the car becomes very slow, but if u start ur climb in S then the Car will climb faster comparatively)

Secondly I didn't go to motorway since I bought my Belta. But the fastest I touched is only 120 km/hr till now.

Recommended maximum speed is the maximum speed mentioned on the dial :).. Moreover it’s the road condition or the Traffic police who will decide the maximum speed. For me it’s the speed in which you are confident enough to control ur car effectively or the Car seems to be in control.

Farhan

[frahan83]

Dear you need to wait for a music gem, I have never liked the built-in sound system in my belta as well, planning to spend some rupees The issue with skipping track or disconnection might be due to loose USB connector ?? We know if a USB connector is sparked or loose, it will for sure stop your media. Get that checked. Sounds like faulty wiring or short-circuit. Electrician's job brother. Sorry cant help much.

Yes unware.. u r right...may be its because of some loose connection...but actually i experienced the same with radio as well with USB disconnected. But for last two days its again working fine...so let c.. however afraid of any electrician coz i cant see them stripping off many wires and then connecting them one by one with each other and after spending half hour or more and making a "gungle" of wires he says that "Nai Sir ye nai ho skta is ma falan system hi nai laga hoa"

Kon sa system bhai??? pehlay b to chal ra tha na...

then he tells somthing which no one can understand and finally he says sir meray pas wo system para hai ma 800 ma laga don ga...then u dont know where to bang ur head...:o...confused..

so do u or any one knows any good electrician in Islamabad who can handle these electronic cars or music systems at least??

Farhan

[aamir771]

saif... i got the spark plugs checked by mechanic and he said that those were fine......

[memphisblue]

@memphisblue, did you get your belta issue resolved?????

Nope, I will be going to SUNTECH in Lahore or Toyota as a final resort to get it checked out unless someone here comes up with a solution before that! Rest assured, I will share in detail once the issue is resolved in order to help anyone else with a similar problem.

[siddiquitauseef]

Dear,

I have also 1000 cc 2007 Belta...

I didn't get which turn u r talking about. Actually we did a lot of experiments on the slopes, even made the car to halt at the steepest slopes while climbing and then again pressed the pedal. The car climbed without going back whereas the manuals go back some distance and then move up even on 1[SUP]st[/SUP] gear. We used S on all slopes, B just for experiment purposes bcoz car climbed every slope in S easily on Pirsohawa, no need for B coz it is for very steep slopes and the car speed also becomes very slow. If at all car halts on S then switch over to B.

(Note : We also experienced that if u change from D to S during a steep climb the car becomes very slow, but if u start ur climb in S then the Car will climb faster comparatively)

Secondly I didn't go to motorway since I bought my Belta. But the fastest I touched is only 120 km/hr till now.

Recommended maximum speed is the maximum speed mentioned on the dial :).. Moreover it?s the road condition or the Traffic police who will decide the maximum speed. For me it?s the speed in which you are confident enough to control ur car effectively or the Car seems to be in control.

Farhan

well thanks once again...pretty much understood now the difference between S ans D ,S is more POWERFUL...i dont think so the recommened speed mentioned on the dial can be achieved in reality .....