Toyota C-HR 1.8 Hybrid

[mirnauman]

i changed the way i drive drastically when i switched from Accord CL9 to Vezel. I still miss that ride. Well these days am not the same old speed racer. driving on motorway 115km/h as mostly am on Assisted Cruise Control or Radar Cruise and 115 is the upper most limit for it. and driving in a city like Peshawar where u can not speed above 60km/h these days. i have taken every caution to get hyper mileage but couldn't touch the lower limit claimed by Pakwheels i.e, 28km/l.
I believe Toyota claim is wrong of getting 35km/l and even the review was not done on a long drive, rather a very short drive and on a short drive a hybrid can sometime show you 99km/l.
Vezel is good ride. i have driven mine 150k kms in a year. Have tested on all kinds of terrains with a mix of all kinds of drive and my honest analysis is that the average mileage of vezel is somewhere between 15-18km/l. and the cabin of vezel is far much better than CHR.

[mirnauman]

I have tried to drive it like a 100 years old lady still am not getting what Pakwheels or Toyota is claiming.

[Nabs]

Is it current winter mileage or in summer as well? Hybrids get notably lower mileage in the winter due to reduced battery performance.

[mirnauman]

This could be something new in my knowledge. Well the answer is yes. its minter mileage and my car is imported with winter tyres 17 inch rim size. i have not changed the tyres yet.
do you have a link or some research paper kind of thing explaining in detail low mileage of hybrid cars in winter. Need to explore this idea and see if there is proper evidence and justification for this.
and thanks for pointing this out.

[Nabs]

This is from U.S. Department of Energy:

Cold weather and winter driving conditions can reduce your fuel economy significantly.

Fuel economy tests show that, in short-trip city driving, a conventional gasoline car's gas mileage is about 12% lower at 20°F than it would be at 77°F. It can drop as much as 22% for very short trips (3 to 4 miles).

The effect on hybrids is worse. Their fuel economy can drop about 31% to 34% under these conditions.

Source: https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/coldweather.shtml

[mirnauman]

Thanks. will go through the article and see if we can explore this more.

[mirnauman]

In reference to the article and the rough calculations that i have done. 34% loss means around 9km less mileage per liter. Including the winter Tyre mileage loss. in a 50 ltr tank it goes to 450km. thats alot. But the temperature range that they have mentioned is -6 to 25 degree Celsius. In Peshawar it around 17 degree now and in morning or evenings its around 7-8 degree. so its not that cold but still if we divide the figures in half considering the temp in Peshawar still its its around 225km per tank less mileage.
Thanks bro for the article and it was fun exploring all this and doing all these calculations. I ll share my experience with everyone what my car will give me in summer with all terrain tyres and not these hard winter tyres.

[abdulbasit01]

How would you rate C-HR as compared to vezel?

[saad.ikram.5688]

Did you check the auction sheet to see if its really a new car or a 150K driven meter reversed car.

By the time these cars are imported the tires are all hard and used so change them .
Check battery health. Use Toyota Techstream

Mileage also depends on the oil you use.
Are filters clean ?
Is the battery cooling fan clogged ?
Tire pressure ?
Transmission oil (depends on how much car is drive.)
Spark plugs condition ?

[mirnauman]

To summarize long details. CHR is a much better ride then Vezel. CHR is worth the extra 1 million that you put in Vezel price if you compare the Power specially in sports mode, suspensions and smooth drive, fuel consumption. But i have to mention that Vezel cabin is much more nicely and user friendly designed than CHR. from 1 -5 if considering performance, mechanics, cabin driving assistance options, safety features and outside look i would give CHR 5 points. Internal cabin design and user friendliness i would rate Vezel 5 points and CHR at most 3.
some day i may write a detail comparison review of CHR vs Vezel.

[mirnauman]

yes i have the auction sheet and i have verified it. my CHR is 4 grade. 53000 km driven and thats what was on the ODO when i received it. when i received the car i changed the oil , am using 0w-20 but now am thinking to switch to 5w-30 with all filters changed , guess in Pakistan we need a bit higher viscosity oil. I checked all error codes and there were none. I checked the battery and its in perfect health. I checked the spark plugs. they are good as new, still can be used for another 40000km i guess. throtle, filter inside the fuel tank and catalytic converter cleaning and checking. All is well, but as mentioned by one the friends, the lower mileage could be due to winter + winter tyres. Its in the manual as well that with winter tyres it will give less mileage than wats claimed by the company.

[saad.ikram.5688]

Stick to 0W-20 that is the recommend oil for the car and it doesn't matter what our climate is.
0W-20 doesn't mean that the higher temperature rating is 20 degree Celsius its just a number. You can search what is the temperature rating for 0W-20 .

Dont go for kixx and other pathetic brands that you can't verify if they are original. Everyshop sells everything as original. My advice go for zic since you can get home delivery from their website and assurety that its genuine.

And yes change winter tires to all year tires or summer tires. Be sure to stick to the original size.

[Nabs]

How is hybrid conversion from EV to engine in C-HR? Are there any jerks? I sold my Vezel because hybrid conversion was not smooth and its electric motor didn't have any acceleration power so it would keep converting to engine at low speeds. I bought it brand new.

[mirnauman]

You wont feel the conversion. its pretty smooth. I dont know , Vezel was a good build but some how they missed to focus on this conversion part. Vezel has a 130hp engine + 30hp electric motor while CHR has 122hp engine + 82hp electric motor. You can guess the overall power and only in the EV mode. Practically CHR EV mode is more powerful than Vezel

[pwuser154055495797]

Dear bro 18 to 22km/l is a good average. A friend of mine had prius + aqua and now he has chr + aqua. He is also getting 18 to 20 from his CHR. I have aqua and in summer it gives 21 and in winter 23. you can check from fuelly.com. So be happy with your car and forget about 28kpl.

[hasham2408]

actually chr is 134hp total combined

[hasham2408]

[Panther]

Congratulations on your purchase. I haven't seen many C-HRs on the roads in Islamabad. They don't seem to be popular but having gone through the reviews on your tube I seem to like it a lot.
How is your experience so far? Did you import it or bought it locally? How much did it cost you?

[owais8668]

Many congratulations to you.

By reading the comments here, please dont mind, one thing cane into my mind, whats the benefit then buying almost 4.6mil car and still going to workshops, and trying to find the problem.

[mirnauman]

Thanks @Panther
Its imported. Cost around 46.50 without registration. so far it feels much better than a Vezel but still there are a few things that are bugging me. I sold my Vezel on 150,000KM . All that drive in one almost one year. When i touch 100,000 on my CHR then I will write a detail review about it and my experience with a detail comparison with Vezel. So lets see what the coming months brings for me.