Toyota Fortuner Officially Launched by IMC in Pakistan

[zee5han]

usually it takes 1-2 weeks after giving payorder imo.
@pwuser154935041559 Which variant are you booking and Tentative delivery month?

[pwuser154935041559]

I will book 4x4 petrol variant, showroom is telling me delivery in June

[bilal49er]

Yes.. May 2021 bookings are almost exhausted...one odd showroom may still have a leftover allocation. You can try.

[Nabeel_Ali]

Go for existing. Even new one has old rear which is pathetic.

[pwuser159259702854]

This useless facelift has increased my curiosity over Sorento even more I hope it is wait that is worth it as I am not going to waste my money on this facelift old sigma is fine for now

[zee5han]

Guys Sorento is a van type thingy in my opinion , SUV feeling you can only get in Fortuner/Prado/LC.
this is why i sold my tucson booking and shifted to fortuner

[zee5han]

Definitely , I'm going for pre facelift

[zee5han]

Are they even giving PBO? I don't think they can issue PBO until officially price is unveiled. I'm not in favor of giving any payorder unless they issue PBO, otherwise your payorder stays in their desk drawer,
And the whole Stamp paper fiasco is just hilarious.

[drtanveerali]

Does 4*4 petrol version beat 4*2 in resale? No, in cities people don’t have time to drive 4*4 at least 15kms in a month to keep the parts lubrication. Car sold in different price segments have different resale segments as well.

[bilal49er]

They are taking bookings of facelift (at existing prices) and giving out proper PBOs, verifiable on Indus website.
Regarding price, its a defacto rule that customer always pays the prevailing price at time of delivery, regardless of booking price.

[arkhitekt]

After 3.5 years of Fortuner ownership (2.7 Petrol 4x4 2017) I can safely say: it is the one of the most uncomfortable vehicle I have ever owned, competitive with Cultus and City in this ownership list of mine. In lower budget cars it is acceptable but at this budget and category it isn’t.

The suspension is hardest ever and the seats are a further cherry on top. I always avoid making long journeys on it because after a few hours of driving the tiredness and body aches are not worth it. So I am assuming that a van like Sorento will probably have good comfort due to its lack of a ladder frame chassis and better suspension.

For a person like me comfort is more important than having a mental satisfaction of telling myself that I am driving a proper SUV like Fortuner. Soon getting rid of it exactly for the same lack of comfort. Glad to have more options coming in the market. Been done taken for granted by these goons like Indus

[UAHMAD]

An unbiased and honest opinion.

[ehalin]

Prado is different. Prado has full time 4wd.

Ok. However, Fortuner sigma 4 will now have both LSD and Diff-lock

I think you are confused. I am talking about mechanical LSD which is a part of differential and you have to use special LSD oil as well.

A-TRC has an electronic LSD function included in it as well which works through brakes. This is different as I highlighted above many times.

Current Fortuner has no A-TRC. New Fortuner will have A-TRC as you are forecasting. This is the reason it will have your so-called "LSD" also.

btw I have current Fortuner Sigma 4 and I know it does not have A-TRC. I use my Fortuner for off roads as well.

Frankly speaking I don't believe in all things written in Indus brochures as well as Operator Manuals.

They are still mentioning Fortuner ground clearance as 279 mm. Where everybody in the world including Australia they corrected it to 219 mm and apologized as well for their mistake. Go figure!

[Nabeel_Ali]

Spot on.
The features, comfort and power will go in favour of Sorento and if priced competitively it will give competition to Fortuner.

[ehalin]

Fortuner is a hard core proper off roader. Not many people actually need these credentials. I suspect about 99% of the people who buy Fortuner does not know about its capabilities as well as how to use them properly.

For those buyers soft roader like Sorento are a better choice. A bad news for Indus though.

[wahajazhar]

Having driven my Sigma for about 35000 kms in 2 years. I can safety state it has the most uncomfortable, back breaking seats of any SUV i've either driven or kept. Only reason i'm bearing with it is because of the engine, which is a treat to drive with.

[pwuser159259702854]

I agree as well it’s quite uncomfortable plus petrol version is boring to drive sigma is better in that aspect but otherwise is still uncomfortable

[v9sDEF]

I think you are confused. I am talking about mechanical LSD which is a part of differential and you have to use special LSD oil as well.

Okay...i guess the LSD in Fortuner will be electronic and not mechanical. Also, i've checked - even the Auto LSD coming in Fortuner is not operable at the same time as Mechanical Diff lock. It only engages in 2WD when VSC is turned off (this activates LSD and a light will appear in the instrument cluster).

A-TRC has an electronic LSD function included in it as well which works through brakes. This is different as I highlighted above many times.

As per technical documentation I have seen for IMC Fortuner, A-TRC exists in Fortuner Sigma4. A-TRC automatically kicks in when the vehicle is put into 4WD HI and 4WD LO. A-TRC is built into the VSC system. Older cars used to have separate A-TRC button (talking in general, not specific to Fortuner):

This is the info I have sourced:
Auto LSD requires specific operating conditions:
• While TRAC/A-TRAC operate automatically, the driver must manually turn on Auto LSD. (Turning Auto LSD on turns TRAC off.)
• On 4WD vehicles, Auto LSD only operates when the vehicle is being driven in 2WD mode.)
• Because Auto LSD and Rear Differential Lock perform similar functions, vehicles may have one system or the other, but not both.

What’s the difference between TRC and A-TRC?
In H2, TRC engages when it detects a loss of traction at the rear wheels. TRC cuts engine power to restore traction and then can apply braking to move power across the rear axle
In H4 or L4, A-TRC engages when the system detects a loss of traction in any of the 4 wheels.

Current Fortuner has no A-TRC. New Fortuner will have A-TRC as you are forecasting. This is the reason it will have your so-called "LSD" also.
btw I have current Fortuner Sigma 4 and I know it does not have A-TRC. I use my Fortuner for off roads as well. Frankly speaking I don't believe in all things written in Indus brochures as well as Operator Manuals.

Existing brochures do not have A-TRC shown but I have confirmed that A-TRC in available, even in current Fortuner.

[ehalin]

I think you are confused. I am talking about mechanical LSD which is a part of differential and you have to use special LSD oil as well.

Okay...i guess the LSD in Fortuner will be electronic and not mechanical. Also, i've checked - even the Auto LSD coming in Fortuner is not operable at the same time as Mechanical Diff lock. It only engages in 2WD when VSC is turned off (this activates LSD and a light will appear in the instrument cluster).

[quote="ehalin, post:3000, topic:251195, full:true"]
A-TRC has an electronic LSD function included in it as well which works through brakes. This is different as I highlighted above many times.
[/quote]

As per technical documentation I have seen for IMC Fortuner, A-TRC exists in Fortuner Sigma4. A-TRC automatically kicks in when the vehicle is put into 4WD HI and 4WD LO. A-TRC is built into the VSC system. Older cars used to have separate A-TRC button (talking in general, not specific to Fortuner):

This is the info I have sourced:
Auto LSD requires specific operating conditions:
• While TRAC/A-TRAC operate automatically, the driver must manually turn on Auto LSD. (Turning Auto LSD on turns TRAC off.)
• On 4WD vehicles, Auto LSD only operates when the vehicle is being driven in 2WD mode.)
• Because Auto LSD and Rear Differential Lock perform similar functions, vehicles may have one system or the other, but not both.

What’s the difference between TRC and A-TRC?
In H2, TRC engages when it detects a loss of traction at the rear wheels. TRC cuts engine power to restore traction and then can apply braking to move power across the rear axle
In H4 or L4, A-TRC engages when the system detects a loss of traction in any of the 4 wheels.

[quote="ehalin, post:3000, topic:251195, full:true"]
Current Fortuner has no A-TRC. New Fortuner will have A-TRC as you are forecasting. This is the reason it will have your so-called "LSD" also.
btw I have current Fortuner Sigma 4 and I know it does not have A-TRC. I use my Fortuner for off roads as well. Frankly speaking I don't believe in all things written in Indus brochures as well as Operator Manuals.
[/quote]

Existing brochures do not have A-TRC shown but I have confirmed that A-TRC in available, even in current Fortuner.

Ok. Thank you. Now it is settled that LSD and Differential Lock are mutually exclusive.

I know the difference between TRC and A-TRC. Just to give you a hint: TRC does not work through brakes but A-TRC uses brakes.

I accept your statement regarding A-TRC in current Fortuner. Indus might have delivered me a "lemon" though. I can say for sure about my Fortuner Sigma 4 and it has "no" A-TRAC. That is from actual experience in the field.

[v9sDEF]

Ok. Thank you. Now it is settled that LSD and Differential Lock are mutually exclusive.

I know the difference between TRC and A-TRC. Just to give you a hint: TRC does not work through brakes but A-TRC uses brakes.

That is my understanding too.

I accept your statement regarding A-TRC in current Fortuner. Indus might have delivered me a "lemon" though. I can say for sure about my Fortuner Sigma 4 and it has "no" A-TRAC. That is from actual experience in the field.

I have personally observed A-TRC in action during the experiential drive activity IMC conducts. During the "step" obstacle, when one of the wheels were in the air, the wheel didn't spin while crossing it.