Toyota Mark X Fan Club

[hammads3]

Sir looking at the price tag have a look around what u get as brand new in this amount a civic a corolla
Mark x is a different leauge using lexsus platform and if I am not wrong using the same transmission used in Toyota 86 plus a 4gr engine with a compression ratio of 12:1

Yeah mark x is a different league :d

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[exquisite27]

I agree with the comments of mwanwar regarding price tags of X.
To enjoy X to fullest u need to have loaded one with max options, and there is no comparison of X with corolla or honda.
See ur budget and than decide,,, as luxury comes with a price!!!

[groot-x]

ok guys, I just took delivery of a very clean 300G with a few optional extras, but it does not come with TCS or ESC. So it is a bit handful in the wet (great driving weather today!), but it helps to keep me on my toes

Where do you guys service your Mark X in Islamabad and how much does it normally cost?

What sort of oil do you use? 0w-20? The car has 79,000km on the clock (all genuine KMs with documented service history and record), so don't know if this would affect the choice of oil. It was last serviced 3,000Km ago, so I will probably put a couple of thousand K's on it before changing the oil.

Many thanks in advance!

[mwanwar]

ok guys, I just took delivery of a very clean 300G with a few optional extras, but it does not come with TCS or ESC. So it is a bit handful in the wet (great driving weather today!), but it helps to keep me on my toes

Where do you guys service your Mark X in Islamabad and how much does it normally cost?

What sort of oil do you use? 0w-20? The car has 79,000km on the clock (all genuine KMs with documented service history and record), so don't know if this would affect the choice of oil. It was last serviced 3,000Km ago, so I will probably put a couple of thousand K's on it before changing the oil.

Many thanks in advance!

Is it a premium or just a 300 u must have vsc in it plus use Mobil 1 and for 8k km or 1 year which ever comes first

[groot-x]

Is it a premium or just a 300 u must have vsc in it plus use Mobil 1 and for 8k km or 1 year which ever comes first

It is not a non-Premium model manufactured in late 2004, the first production year for the Mark X, so it does not have any electeonic driving aids apart from ABS.

Mobile 1 sounds good, what about the specification of the oil? 0w-20?

Is there a garage that is good with Mark X in Islamabad? Or any generic garage can service it?

I want to get a custom cat-back exhaust system as i find the stock set up too quiet and boring. Not looking for some ridiculously loud setup where i lose all the low end torque, but something that sounds deep and purposeful. Any suggestions for good exhaust shops in Islamabad?

[mwanwar]

It is not a non-Premium model manufactured in late 2004, the first production year for the Mark X, so it does not have any electeonic driving aids apart from ABS.

Mobile 1 sounds good, what about the specification of the oil? 0w-20?

Is there a garage that is good with Mark X in Islamabad? Or any generic garage can service it?

I want to get a custom cat-back exhaust system as i find the stock set up too quiet and boring. Not looking for some ridiculously loud setup where i lose all the low end torque, but something that sounds deep and purposeful. Any suggestions for good exhaust shops in Islamabad?

Well for oil go for 0w-50

And remember that electronics of x are difficult it does not even communicate with replicas of scanners available in market so be careful about it.

For exhaust go to hpr they were in g-10/4 now they have shifter to e11 let me see if I can get an address for u

My 2 cents don't try to mess up with x with desi jugars if u have the money import and after market exhaust system

Also remember that ls250 is same as mark x and all parts mostly fits in so u can get ls250 exhaust system also

[groot-x]

Well for oil go for 0w-50

And remember that electronics of x are difficult it does not even communicate with replicas of scanners available in market so be careful about it.

For exhaust go to hpr they were in g-10/4 now they have shifter to e11 let me see if I can get an address for u

My 2 cents don't try to mess up with x with desi jugars if u have the money import and after market exhaust system

Also remember that ls250 is same as mark x and all parts mostly fits in so u can get ls250 exhaust system also

Thanks! Will explore different options...

Also, is it possible to adjust the height of the HID headlight? I find my Mark X's default setting a little too low, it might be ok in Japan, but definitely not for Pakistan's road conditions.

I also want to widen the spread of my high beams, they are currently too concentrated in the centre. I have looked at the back of the headlights, but could not see any adjustment knobs or screws. Any solution for this?

Thanks!

[groot-x]

My 300G Mark X's rear end slides sideways when I accelerate with full throttle from 30 to 40Km/h, the car would first down shift to second gear and then the rear tyres would loose traction and slide sideways and the car will begin to rotate, as if it is undergoing oversteering. This can be quite scary on a vehicle without VSC and TRC, and by that stage the car is doing 70 to 80 Km/h. I need to lift off the throttle a bit and countersteer to control the sideway movement to avoid crashing it into the medium strip or other vehicles on the road.

I am currently using the following tyres with stock suspension:
Front: 224/45R18 Pirelli P1 (~2,000Km on them)
Rear: 245/45R18 Yokohama Advan Sport V103 (brand new)

I just got the new Yoko Advan Sport V103 tyres today for the rear wheels, with a cross-section of 245, I thought it would improve the situation, but in fact the wider tyres have made it worse, because previously the rear wheels would just spin and slide sideways, now they have much wider tyres (up from 225) and stickier compound, so instead of just spinning, they now spin and gain traction intermittently, rotating the car even more.

Do you guys also experience this on your 300G or 250G? Is it simply the power of the 3,000cc 3GR engine or is there something wrong with my car? Could it be a wheel alignment issue? But I haven't been able to find Mark X's wheel alignment data, and I doubt that garages in Islamabad have them, so I have found Lexus GS300's alignment data, since its suspension parts are interchangeable with that of the first gen Mark X's, is this a good idea?

[mwanwar]

My 300G Mark X's rear end slides sideways when I accelerate with full throttle from 30 to 40Km/h, the car would first down shift to second gear and then the rear tyres would loose traction and slide sideways and the car will begin to rotate, as if it is undergoing oversteering. This can be quite scary on a vehicle without VSC and TRC, and by that stage the car is doing 70 to 80 Km/h. I need to lift off the throttle a bit and countersteer to control the sideway movement to avoid crashing it into the medium strip or other vehicles on the road.

I am currently using the following tyres with stock suspension:
Front: 224/45R18 Pirelli P1 (~2,000Km on them)
Rear: 245/45R18 Yokohama Advan Sport V103 (brand new)

I just got the new Yoko Advan Sport V103 tyres today for the rear wheels, with a cross-section of 245, I thought it would improve the situation, but in fact the wider tyres have made it worse, because previously the rear wheels would just spin and slide sideways, now they have much wider tyres (up from 225) and stickier compound, so instead of just spinning, they now spin and gain traction intermittently, rotating the car even more.

Do you guys also experience this on your 300G or 250G? Is it simply the power of the 3,000cc 3GR engine or is there something wrong with my car? Could it be a wheel alignment issue? But I haven't been able to find Mark X's wheel alignment data, and I doubt that garages in Islamabad have them, so I have found Lexus GS300's alignment data, since its suspension parts are interchangeable with that of the first gen Mark X's, is this a good idea?

Firstly r u sure ur vehicle came without vsc n trc control can u share pic of the cluster

Now why r u using different tyres on front n back what does default specs say n what rim size r u using

Yes we also face same thing but vsc make it easy otherwise u need to perfect the driving skills with this immense power

Now the alignment part go to any Toyota dealership they hv data of all vehicles but this does not relate to alignment

[Legal_rebel]

Mark x is prone to tail by all means possible...i had a w211 merc n when u turn of traction it also use to do the same but was not so much horrific as urs...when i heard about taili g in mark x owners said it tails on its own jab dil kia kind of scenario. So be careful with the pedal n specially in hilly areas. Ur car must have a traction button somewhere its not 1970

[groot-x]

Firstly r u sure ur vehicle came without vsc n trc control can u share pic of the cluster

Now why r u using different tyres on front n back what does default specs say n what rim size r u using

Yes we also face same thing but vsc make it easy otherwise u need to perfect the driving skills with this immense power

Now the alignment part go to any Toyota dealership they hv data of all vehicles but this does not relate to alignment

Thanks, yes I am certain that my 300G does not have VSC and TRC, there is no icons on the dash when you start the car, the place where TRC deactivation button should be is also blanked out with a piece of black plastic instead of a button, and they have never kicked in.

Also referring to the Toyota brochure for Mark X, TRC and VSC were part of an optional package on the standard 300G (non-Premium model) that cost JPY63,000, which the first owner of my car did not choose to pay for:
http://jccc.web.fc2.com/japanese/toyota/mark-x-grx12-200503/p36.jpg

I have different tyres front and back because the car came with pretty worn out 225/45R18 rear tyres and near new front tyres, so I went shopping for a pair of 225/45R18 to replace the rear ones, but tyre shops only had Yokohama Advan dB (quiet tyres but no good grip) or Dunlop DZ101 (good in dry but rubbish in wet) in this size, so I opted for a wider set up of 245/45R18 using Advan Sport V103 (proper sports tyres in the P-Zero league but for much less) for the back to alleviate some of my traction issue. In theory the rear end now sits 9mm higher, but it is barely noticeable and the rear wheels now look more purposeful as they fill the wheel arches properly.

Thanks for the suggestions re Toyota dealership and alignment, will give it a go.

[groot-x]

Mark x is prone to tail by all means possible...i had a w211 merc n when u turn of traction it also use to do the same but was not so much horrific as urs...when i heard about taili g in mark x owners said it tails on its own jab dil kia kind of scenario. So be careful with the pedal n specially in hilly areas. Ur car must have a traction button somewhere its not 1970

Thanks... good to know that I am not the only one suffering from this. I have driven powerful RWD cars before (195Kw vs. 300G's 188Kw) but they certainly did not need VSC or TRC (the cars had them, but they didn't kick in) to keep the car's tail from swinging out under full throttle acceleration from 30 to 40Km/h. It makes me wonder about the the Mark X's suspension set up......

[mwanwar]

Thanks, yes I am certain that my 300G does not have VSC and TRC, there is no icons on the dash when you start the car, the place where TRC deactivation button should be is also blanked out with a piece of black plastic instead of a button, and they have never kicked in.

Also referring to the Toyota brochure for Mark X, TRC and VSC were part of an optional package on the standard 300G (non-Premium model) that cost JPY63,000, which the first owner of my car did not choose to pay for:
http://jccc.web.fc2.com/japanese/toyota/mark-x-grx12-200503/p36.jpg

I have different tyres front and back because the car came with pretty worn out 225/45R18 rear tyres and near new front tyres, so I went shopping for a pair of 225/45R18 to replace the rear ones, but tyre shops only had Yokohama Advan dB (quiet tyres but no good grip) or Dunlop DZ101 (good in dry but rubbish in wet) in this size, so I opted for a wider set up of 245/45R18 using Advan Sport V103 (proper sports tyres in the P-Zero league but for much less) for the back to alleviate some of my traction issue. In theory the rear end now sits 9mm higher, but it is barely noticeable and the rear wheels now look more purposeful as they fill the wheel arches properly.

Thanks for the suggestions re Toyota dealership and alignment, will give it a go.

Well u r facing a lot of issue than i dont face any such issue it does slide but remain in control due to vsc n traction all mark x comes with default traction some have button option to deactiavte it others dont have the option to deactivate it.

In japan its one the best drift cars merc is all a different leauge its all about luxury n comfort crown also come with same engine but a different transmission so u dont feel such issue in crown as its made for comfort anyways i may be wrong but this is just an opniob

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Thanks, yes I am certain that my 300G does not have VSC and TRC, there is no icons on the dash when you start the car, the place where TRC deactivation button should be is also blanked out with a piece of black plastic instead of a button, and they have never kicked in.

Also referring to the Toyota brochure for Mark X, TRC and VSC were part of an optional package on the standard 300G (non-Premium model) that cost JPY63,000, which the first owner of my car did not choose to pay for:
http://jccc.web.fc2.com/japanese/toyota/mark-x-grx12-200503/p36.jpg

I have different tyres front and back because the car came with pretty worn out 225/45R18 rear tyres and near new front tyres, so I went shopping for a pair of 225/45R18 to replace the rear ones, but tyre shops only had Yokohama Advan dB (quiet tyres but no good grip) or Dunlop DZ101 (good in dry but rubbish in wet) in this size, so I opted for a wider set up of 245/45R18 using Advan Sport V103 (proper sports tyres in the P-Zero league but for much less) for the back to alleviate some of my traction issue. In theory the rear end now sits 9mm higher, but it is barely noticeable and the rear wheels now look more purposeful as they fill the wheel arches properly.

Thanks for the suggestions re Toyota dealership and alignment, will give it a go.

AOA. Okay so having owned a 2003 model year Mark X 250G with 225/50R17 tires i can assure you that what you are experiencing with your car is absolutely normal as my car used to do exactly that when floored in lower gears especially on smooth slippery roads of defence karachi. Once i completely lost it as i floored it taking a right turn from a intersection with all the traffic behind me, everybody including myself **** their pants​.

[groot-x]

[arslansohail84]

Thanks! This is 'reassuring' in a way, at least my X is behaving normally.... haha

But really, I have not driven a RWD with similar power that loses traction like this when acceleration in a straight line, not even in a turbo Skyline with more power and narrower and crappier tyres.... hmmm.... it seems to me that the X does not have a very good suspension set up from the factory...

Please share some pics of your mark x

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[arslansohail84]

Thanks! This is 'reassuring' in a way, at least my X is behaving normally.... haha

But really, I have not driven a RWD with similar power that loses traction like this when acceleration in a straight line, not even in a turbo Skyline with more power and narrower and crappier tyres.... hmmm.... it seems to me that the X does not have a very good suspension set up from the factory...

According to my knowledge about mark x traction control is standard for all mark x. As it is a compulsory safety feature in rwd cars.
It could be that previous owner may have set the traction control to off by default through some mechanic. So that he can enjoy the rwd at all times.
My mark x had a problem that its traction control and vsc would automatically be turned off sometimes.

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[arslansohail84]

Thanks! This is 'reassuring' in a way, at least my X is behaving normally.... haha

But really, I have not driven a RWD with similar power that loses traction like this when acceleration in a straight line, not even in a turbo Skyline with more power and narrower and crappier tyres.... hmmm.... it seems to me that the X does not have a very good suspension set up from the factory...

According to my knowledge about mark x traction control is standard for all mark x. As it is a compulsory safety feature in rwd cars.
It could be that previous owner may have set the traction control to off by default through some mechanic. So that he can enjoy the rwd at all times.
My mark x had a problem that its traction control and vsc would automatically be turned off sometimes.

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[groot-x]

According to my knowledge about mark x traction control is standard for all mark x. As it is a compulsory safety feature in rwd cars.
It could be that previous owner may have set the traction control to off by default through some mechanic. So that he can enjoy the rwd at all times.
My mark x had a problem that its traction control and vsc would automatically be turned off sometimes.

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Unfortunately not all Mark X came standard with TRC and VSC, they are only standard on 300G Premium and 250G/300G S-Pack models. On all other models TRC and VSC were a JPY63,000 option pack. Refer to the original dealership brochure:
http://jccc.web.fc2.com/japanese/toyota/mark-x-grx12-200503/p36.jpg

Mine is a standard 300G without the TRC and VSC option pack

As requested, a couple of pics of my X:

[arslansohail84]

Unfortunately not all Mark X came standard with TRC and VSC, they are only standard on 300G Premium and 250G/300G S-Pack models. On all other models TRC and VSC were a JPY63,000 option pack. Refer to the original dealership brochure:
http://jccc.web.fc2.com/japanese/toyota/mark-x-grx12-200503/p36.jpg

Mine is a standard 300G without the TRC and VSC option pack

As requested, a couple of pics of my X:

MASHAALLAH se NICE RIDE AND ALLOYS rimz.
Could you share its price tag?

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