Toyota Vitz 2014 1.0F Wheel Upsizing

[pwuser155652146265]

Salam Everyone,

Guys I'm going for a wheel upsizing for my Vitz.

The default setup is
165/70 R14 with Bridegestone Nextry Tires (81S - Load and speed rating)

I was going to replace tires, and wanted to use Yokohama Advan Db (or Michelin XM2) but it turns out only one size is available in 155/65R14 75H.

But I want to have a cosmetic improvement as well, so
Kindly guide me which of below mentioned setups would be the best as I don't want to compromise a lot on the comfort.

In order of Priority

205/50/R16 (Not available in Yokohama Advan Db)
205/55R16
195/55R16
195/55R15

I need to know if any additional modification will be required for this and
which rims should I go with that will be compatible with the width of the tire.

Plus : If you have any suggestions for Rims or any other tires please do let me know as that would really help.

Any help by anyone will be highly appreciated.

[anon35615524]

Wa Alaikum Salam.

In order of Priority

205/50/R16 (Not available in Yokohama Advan Db)205/55R16195/55R16195/55R15

I don't want to compromise a lot on the comfort.

I would recommend to not go for them. Too much thin profile, like 50-55 will make your ride extremely uncomfortable and hard. Secondly, our roads, potholes, etc. do not allow to go for such thin profile tires. This much profile tires will get damaged quite early and easily, rims will also get damaged.

I need to know if any additional modification will be required for this

Yes! For rims. especially alloy ones, you will also have to take care of offset, etc.

which rims should I go with that will be compatible with the width of the tire.

Plus : If you have any suggestions for Rims or any other tires please do let me know as that would really help.

I also own 2015 model, 1KR-FE, 1.0L, 1.0F Vitz, and going through the same thoughts.

Based on my working till date, I would recommend to go for Light weight, 100% genuine and original, Lenso rims. They start from 15". For details about Lenso rims, please visit following links:

https://www.lensowheel.co.th/

Their latest catalog for 2019: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rzGkWbq8EwLf8PK8J6h1c1LXAwuq4gH1/view

Read their blogs especially! You will learn a lot! (I just came to know about their blogs today): https://www.lensowheel.co.th/blog

Their official distributors in Pakistan:

PAKISTAN RUBBER & TYRE CO.,
Address: 79-C NATIONAL HIGHWAY PHASE-II EX-II DEFENCE OFFICERS HOUSING AUTHORITY KARACHI, PAKISTAN.
Phone: +92-21-3580-4646 to 51, +92 21 538 0888
Contact Name: MR. RASHID RAZA

(Source: https://www.lensowheel.co.th/dealer/search?zone=7&country=9&inter=true )

And this company is also the official importers / distributors of Yokohama Tires in Pakistan. For details about the company, please visit: http://www.prtc.net.pk/

In a nutshell, I would suggest to stick with max. 15" rims (avoid 16" / above rims), max. width 185 mm, max. profile 60-65 (avoid 55 and below). The tires coming in my mind at the moment, and meeting this criteria in 15" are:

175/65/R15
185/60/R15, and max.,
185/65/R15

Do not go above 185/65/R15 at any cost! (And for this, you may have to go for 0.5"-1" spacers / packing)

Tire brands which I will recommend:

Yokohama: Advan db, Bluearth series and A-Drive.
Bridgestone: Ecopia, or at max. Techno (as far as I have worked, Ecopia is not officially available. Only Techno is available with made in Indonesia).
Michelin: Energy XM2 or Energy Saver +
or Continental tires (CC5 or CC6, etc. series)

I hope. It all helps. Thank you.

(I have discussed a lot about tires, rims, and their many details in my main thread, and many respected members have also contributed. You can check it too).

I hope, it all helps. Thank you.

[pwuser155652146265]

Thank you very much for all the Information, I am looking into the Lenso rims and I'll try to find them in lahore.

I am also inclined towards 15" but cosmetics is also a concern, I sampled a few and found that 15 and 14 don't have a lot of difference between them, infact I had to look at the tire size to know whether its a 14 or a 15.

I understand that the ride stiffness increases but I was wondering if the increase in width and the quality of Advan db over Bridegestone Nextry (which almost needs replacing) would compensate for that as well which would allow me to have a slightly lower profile.

Another factor is that my current wheel is steel, and allow should be a bit lighter? shouldn't it?

Anyways very thankful.

[pwuser155652146265]

[anon35615524]

I am looking into the Lenso rims and I'll try to find them in lahore.

You can get them from:

Address: SHC Building, 1/13, Lake Road, Chowk Jain Mandir, Lahore
Phone +92-42-37173401-2, 37173414 | Fax +92-42-37173403

Address: Ground Floor, SHC Building, 1/13, Lake Road, Chowk Jain Mandir, Lahore
Phone +92-42-37173401-2, 37173414 | Fax +92-42-37173403

(Source: http://www.prtc.net.pk/contactus.php )

Please also check:

https://web.facebook.com/pg/AutoExpressLahore/about/ and http://autoexpress.com.pk/

I am also inclined towards 15" but cosmetics is also a concern, I sampled a few and found that 15 and 14 don't have a lot of difference between them, infact I had to look at the tire size to know whether its a 14 or a 15.

Still... I won't recommend going above 15" rims, and trust me, 14"-15" rims don't look bad. Rest, your money, your choice!

if the increase in width and the quality of Advan db over Bridegestone Nextry (which almost needs replacing) would compensate for that as well which would allow me to have a slightly lower profile

I think, NO!

allow should be a bit lighter? shouldn't it?

Yes, light weight is a must!

[pwuser155652146265]

Thank you very much, Guess I'm going with 15 inch now. I'll post a picture when I get them installed, Hoping within this week.

[anon35615524]

I'm going with 15 inch now.

It will be a fairly wise decision, but do check for offset, Pitch Circle Diameter (PCD), width of rim, etc. Do not go for exceptionally wide rims, and prefer light weight rims!

I'll post a picture when I get them installed, Hoping within this week.

For sure, do share the details, pics, cost / price, shop from where you buy, etc.

[pwuser155652146265]

I went with 185/65/15 it was the nearest tire size I could find.
Tire cost me 10500 pkr. the rims cost 29k.
and I bought from Pakistan Tyres in Faisal Town, Lahore.

[anon35615524]

Wah...

MA SHA ALLAH...

Heartiest congratulations!

Your ride, rims and tires are MA SHA ALLAH looking beautiful!

Mind sharing, are you using packing / spacers or not? (To cater for road clearance)

[pwuser155652146265]

No spacers or anything, I had a huge problem with the speed breakers, but it doesn't get hit from bottom as often now, because of the increase in tire diameter.

But I do have to say, the car feels a tiny bit underpowered to drive the bigger wheels.
And my running average, with very light pedal used to be around 16 and now its around 13. This isn't a realistic average, as the long running average hasn't deviated much.

But It feels way better now, and I'm thankful that I don't feel any stiffness that I feared I will with bigger tires.

[anon35615524]

No spacers or anything

It feels way better now, and I'm thankful that I don't feel any stiffness that I feared I will with bigger tires.

That's wonderful!

car feels a tiny bit underpowered to drive the bigger wheels

It would definitely happen! 165/70/R14 Vs. 185/65/R15 make a lot of difference.

[pwuser151461545062]

AOA how is your experience with the Yokohama tires?

[pwuser150825168845]

AoA,

Overall the tires were very very soft and comfortable.
But that means that you can risk having low pressure in the tires as they are very prone to punctures when not adequately inflated. I checked tire pressure regularly and kept it at 32, didn't have any issues then.

Other than that, One of the best tires I've used.

[pwuser151461545062]

I've just bought Chinese JoyRoad for Vitz 09. Sadly due to loss of avid imports I Had to go for that. Cost made me smile though.

[horticulturalist]

10500 and 29k for all tyres and rims???

[pwuser150825168845]

10500 per tyre and 29k for Rims.

[horticulturalist]

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