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[Mohd.Waqas]

Thank you very much for your reply bro i enjoyed the links and details of the links you given

And that's great idea about drafting my plan and you guys will help to finalize it

Ok i starting my plan

i am copying information of waseem14pk to draft my plan

Tour Itinerary
5th April 13 : Ok we will try to Left Lahore at 7.00 am and will take this route (in your opinion this is fine route)
Route : Lahore ( Via GT Road )→ Rawalpindi→ Kahuta →Azad Pattan →Rawala Kot →Khai Gala ? Banjosa

Now want to stay night at banjosa left side rest house whose geaser will be working Please if possible guide me from where we can book that resort room.

on 6th April morning around 10-11 i want leave banjosa to Neelam valey, leepa valey, chita khata lake or Mirput for Ramkot Fort

Please now suggest where should we go to see more beauty ..... which will be best for us to go ?

[asifcae]

@mohd.waqas...

i think mobeen has adequtely answered ur qurrey i also have same suggestions..

in 2-3 dayz u can just visit banjosa and tolipir +rawalakot from lahore and its good enuf coz if u dont have enuf experience in travelling u mite come across problems.....

[Mohd.Waqas]

Thank you very much for your reply bro i enjoyed the links and details of the links you given

And that's great idea about drafting my plan and you guys will help to finalize it

Ok i starting my plan

i am copying information of waseem14pk to draft my plan

Tour Itinerary
5th April 13 : Ok we will try to Left Lahore at 7.00 am and will take this route (in your opinion this is fine route)
Route : Lahore ( Via GT Road )→ Rawalpindi→ Kahuta →Azad Pattan →Rawala Kot →Khai Gala ? Banjosa

Now want to stay night at banjosa left side rest house whose geaser will be working Please if possible guide me from where we can book that resort room.

on 6th April morning around 10-11 i want leave banjosa to Neelam valey, leepa valey, chita khata lake or Mirput for Ramkot Fort

Please now suggest where should we go to see more beauty ..... which will be best for us to go ?

[Mohd.Waqas]

WA and welcome to PW Waqas

Please go through the travelogues below for lower Kashmir trips:

Or u can check my travelogue for Leepa and Neelum Valleys but please note that some areas will only be accessible in July due to snow in start of April.

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/road-trips-vacations/199249-23-aug-2-sep-2012-heavens-leepa-neelum-valley-ajk-never-seen-before

Please choose your destination and draft your plan and we will assist you in refining your plans. You can further search these forums as tonnes of information is already available.

Thank you very much for your reply bro i enjoyed the links and details of the links you given

And that's great idea about drafting my plan and you guys will help to finalize it

Ok i starting my plan

i am copying information of waseem14pk to draft my plan

Tour Itinerary
5th April 13 : Ok we will try to Left Lahore at 7.00 am and will take this route (in your opinion this is fine route)
Route : Lahore ( Via GT Road )→ Rawalpindi→ Kahuta →Azad Pattan →Rawala Kot →Khai Gala ? Banjosa

Now want to stay night at banjosa left side rest house whose geaser will be working Please if possible guide me from where we can book that resort room.

on 6th April morning around 10-11 i want leave banjosa to Neelam valey, leepa valey, chita khata lake or Mirput for Ramkot Fort

Please now suggest where should we go to see more beauty ..... which will be best for us to go ?

[aesiege]

Thank you very much for your reply bro i enjoyed the links and details of the links you given

And that's great idea about drafting my plan and you guys will help to finalize it

Ok i starting my plan

i am copying information of waseem14pk to draft my plan

Tour Itinerary
5th April 13 : Ok we will try to Left Lahore at 7.00 am and will take this route (in your opinion this is fine route)
Route : Lahore ( Via GT Road )→ Rawalpindi→ Kahuta →Azad Pattan →Rawala Kot →Khai Gala ? Banjosa

Now want to stay night at banjosa left side rest house whose geaser will be working Please if possible guide me from where we can book that resort room.

on 6th April morning around 10-11 i want leave banjosa to Neelam valey, leepa valey, chita khata lake or Mirput for Ramkot Fort

Please now suggest where should we go to see more beauty ..... which will be best for us to go ?

First day is fine.

I think contact details should be mentioned in this thread:

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/road-trips-vacations/205340-colors-autumn

Day 2 - 6 April: Visit Tolipeer and then go to Bagh, Sudhan Gali, Chikkar (on way u will see Zalzal Lake) and then Hattian Bala. Get your NOC for Leepa Valley and reach Reshian for night stay.

Day 3 - 7 April : Do a full day visit of Leepa Valley. Car can only go till Reshian and ahead is jeep track. You can stay at Reshian / Daokhan if u want to spend more time in Leepa. Otherwise, leave a bit early and reach Muzaffarabad for night stay.

Next day start return journey.

If u want to visit Neelum Valley then it alone will require atleast 4 days. I just answered a query in another thread for Neelum Valley and u can use same 4 days itinerary:

Since, u r in Isl so u can easily reach MZF in the morning.

Day 1: Visit Kutton and Jagran Valley and then Upper Neelum Village near Keran. Stay at Keran.

Day 2: Visit Sharda and Kel. Do trek to Arang Kel and back to Kel. Night stay in Kel

Day 3: Visit Taobutt and come back to Kel

Now if u have an extra day then visit Shounter Valley. At start of May, the whole valley may not be open. But if u don't have this extra day then start your return journey and skip Shounter Valley.

Chitta Katha is 2 days hiking trek and very tough one. It is only accessible in summer.

[Mohd.Waqas]

First day is fine.

I think contact details should be mentioned in this thread:

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/road-trips-vacations/205340-colors-autumn

Day 2 - 6 April: Visit Tolipeer and then go to Bagh, Sudhan Gali, Chikkar (on way u will see Zalzal Lake) and then Hattian Bala. Get your NOC for Leepa Valley and reach Reshian for night stay.

Day 3 - 7 April : Do a full day visit of Leepa Valley. Car can only go till Reshian and ahead is jeep track. You can stay at Reshian / Daokhan if u want to spend more time in Leepa. Otherwise, leave a bit early and reach Muzaffarabad for night stay.

Next day start return journey.

If u want to visit Neelum Valley then it alone will require atleast 4 days. I just answered a query in another thread for Neelum Valley and u can use same 4 days itinerary:

Chitta Katha is 2 days hiking trek and very tough one. It is only accessible in summer.

Thank you bro now one more thing is stuck in mind is Ramfort just have a thought if is it possible or correct me if could be

What about this

Lahore > Dina > Mirpur / Ramkot Fort

Ramkot > Tolipir > Banjosa > Lahore

if yes then i would like to discuss it in detail with you to finalize it

can i go Lahore to mirpur for Ramkot fort (how is the road condition from lahore dina road to mirpur)

[aesiege]

Thank you bro now one more thing is stuck in mind is Ramfort just have a thought if is it possible or correct me if could be

What about this

Lahore > Dina > Mirpur / Ramkot Fort

Ramkot > Tolipir > Banjosa > Lahore

if yes then i would like to discuss it in detail with you to finalize it

can i go Lahore to mirpur for Ramkot fort (how is the road condition from lahore dina road to mirpur)

This is actually a better plan as it will be less hectic and u can spend more time in enjoying the destinations.

Check these threads and u will get enough information:

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/road-trips-vacations/205981-ramkot-fort-mirpur

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/road-trips-vacations/201878-ramkot-fort-mangla-lake-ajk-dadyal-site

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/road-trips-vacations/207293-2nd-pakwheels-travelers-trip-rohtas-mangla-ramkot-fort

[Mohd.Waqas]

This is actually a better plan as it will be less hectic and u can spend more time in enjoying the destinations.

Check these threads and u will get enough information:

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/road-trips-vacations/205981-ramkot-fort-mirpur

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/road-trips-vacations/201878-ramkot-fort-mangla-lake-ajk-dadyal-site

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/road-trips-vacations/207293-2nd-pakwheels-travelers-trip-rohtas-mangla-ramkot-fort

thank you brother i am online on forums from morning and also go through these recommended threads

if you dont mind please bhai sb just to clear my mind can you type the route as you recommend / mentioned for other side leepa valley etc.

Like what will be the route and how should i travel because i am confuse about route in these threads.

Confusions:

1. which is the best route to visit Ramkot from Lahore (1. from Mangla Cantt 2. Dadyal side) but i dont know which route is good, clear from lahore

2. after visiting Ramfort from which route i will go to my next destination (banjosa or tolipir) what will be the route and which will come first and then return route to lahore

Basically what i am thinking is to visit

Lahore > Ramkot Fort > then go to Banjosa Straight after Ramkot visit to check the route i tried google map and attaching one image please let me know what you say about my drawing and is it possible in that way i am trying to draw the route according to road and safety conditions there are two options

My posts are very late (moderate approval) and very desperate to finalize my plan as soon as possible to start preparation, may be we can chat online to make it quick

[aesiege]

thank you brother i am online on forums from morning and also go through these recommended threads

if you dont mind please bhai sb just to clear my mind can you type the route as you recommend / mentioned for other side leepa valley etc.

Like what will be the route and how should i travel because i am confuse about route in these threads.

Confusions:

1. which is the best route to visit Ramkot from Lahore (1. from Mangla Cantt 2. Dadyal side) but i dont know which route is good, clear from lahore

2. after visiting Ramfort from which route i will go to my next destination (banjosa or tolipir) what will be the route and which will come first and then return route to lahore

Basically what i am thinking is to visit

Lahore > Ramkot Fort > then go to Banjosa Straight after Ramkot visit to check the route i tried google map and attaching one image please let me know what you say about my drawing and is it possible in that way i am trying to draw the route according to road and safety conditions there are two options

My posts are very late (moderate approval) and very desperate to finalize my plan as soon as possible to start preparation, may be we can chat online to make it quick

Sorry, i was busy the whole day so couldn't find time to check forums.

You can use Mangla route as it is more common ans shorter from Lahore.

After that use Mirpur - Kotli road and then onwards take Kotli - Hajira - Rawlakot road which will pass through Hajira and then Khaigala. From Khaigala which comes before Rawlakot turn left towards Banjosa Lake.

Next day visit Tolipeer. For Tolipeer follow same road which u came from. Banjosa - Khaigala -Hajira then turn left towards Mahmood Gali. You will pass through Abbas Pur then Mahmood Gali and then Las Danna. From Las Danna, ask anyone for Tolipeer.

[Mohd.Waqas]

I try to conclude the trip please correct the route with more details, extra places names and if possible please elaborate with estimate time. (overall is it possible to complete this route easily ?)

Day 1 - 5 April: Lahore > Jhelum > Dina > Mangla Cantt (stay to visit Ramkot Fort) > Mirpur > Kotli > Hajira > Khai Gala > Banjosa (Night Stay)

Day 2 - 6 April: Banjosa > Khai Gala > Hajira > Mahmood Gali > Las Danna > GhoriMar (Night Stay – because I heard there are Some good pwd lounge to stay and we can book advance)> ToliPeer

Day 3 - 7 April: GhoriMar to visit some local place around like ZalZal Lake and then return to Lahore from Muzaffrabad

To give me timing idea please check the following example I try to write with just my idea. please correct and also write route plan with time for other two days too

Day 1 - 5 April: if we leave Lahore 7-00am > Jhelum > Dina > around 10-00am we reach Mangla Cantt (stay to visit Ramkot Fort – time spent till 1-00pm for fort, after zuhar and lunch if we leave) > Mirpur > Kotli > Hajira > Khai Gala > we will reach Banjosa at 4-00pm for Night Stay)

hope to hear from you soon and btw Thanks brother for your help hope you understand what I am trying to explain

[aesiege]

I try to conclude the trip please correct the route with more details, extra places names and if possible please elaborate with estimate time. (overall is it possible to complete this route easily ?)

Day 1 - 5 April: Lahore > Jhelum > Dina > Mangla Cantt (stay to visit Ramkot Fort) > Mirpur > Kotli > Hajira > Khai Gala > Banjosa (Night Stay)

Day 2 - 6 April: Banjosa > Khai Gala > Hajira > Mahmood Gali > Las Danna > GhoriMar (Night Stay – because I heard there are Some good pwd lounge to stay and we can book advance)> ToliPeer

Day 3 - 7 April: GhoriMar to visit some local place around like ZalZal Lake and then return to Lahore from Muzaffrabad

To give me timing idea please check the following example I try to write with just my idea. please correct and also write route plan with time for other two days too

Day 1 - 5 April: if we leave Lahore 7-00am > Jhelum > Dina > around 10-00am we reach Mangla Cantt (stay to visit Ramkot Fort – time spent till 1-00pm for fort, after zuhar and lunch if we leave) > Mirpur > Kotli > Hajira > Khai Gala > we will reach Banjosa at 4-00pm for Night Stay)

hope to hear from you soon and btw Thanks brother for your help hope you understand what I am trying to explain

Visiting Zalzal Lake on Day 3 will involve steep descend then steep climb and then again descend. The route would be Las Danna - Bagh - Sudhan Gali - Zalzal Lake view point.

But if u want to return on same day then skip Zalzal Lake as return journey will become very long.

[Mohd.Waqas]

ok agree then please if you write route and time details day by day

Day 1:

Day 2:

Day 3:

Thanks

[aesiege]

ok agree then please if you write route and time details day by day

Day 1:

Day 2:

Day 3:

Thanks

Route is same as above. Just drop Zalzal Lake and return after Tolipeer.

[ism1]

route is same as above. Just drop zalzal lake and return after tolipeer.

zabardast temperament u hv mobeen bhai. Har kisi k bas ki baat nahi. Hehehehe

[aesiege]

zabardast temperament u hv mobeen bhai. Har kisi k bas ki baat nahi. Hehehehe

If u take up the responsibility then temperament should be there as well

[NaXuN]

travel guruuusss...i need some help regarding a trip in June...plz suggest the best place to visit in the northern areas...it can include a 2 to 3 hrs trekking (or longer if night stay is available at the end)...the place should be safe for ladies to stay (trekking is not an issue) and should be awesome

ur replies will very much be appreciated

[Mohd.Waqas]

zabardast temperament u hv mobeen bhai. Har kisi k bas ki baat nahi. Hehehehe

i think this comment is embarrassing for

sorry mobeen sb. for bothering you

[Skill]

@Mohd.Waqas route from dina upto mirpur is in good shape further till kotli is acceptable beyond kotli is in bad shap till hajira and onwards will be good again till lake.

[aesiege]

i think this comment is embarrassing for

sorry mobeen sb. for bothering you

Apologies bro if u felt bad !!!

Imran bhai zara khuli tabiat ke bandey hien so please don't mind

I have answered all your queries and will keep doing that till u can get your plans final.

[aesiege]

travel guruuusss...i need some help regarding a trip in June...plz suggest the best place to visit in the northern areas...it can include a 2 to 3 hrs trekking (or longer if night stay is available at the end)...the place should be safe for ladies to stay (trekking is not an issue) and should be awesome

ur replies will very much be appreciated

Plz choose your target area first as such family places are all over North of Pakistan. Mention your timing, no. of days, people, budget etc.