Used car buying/selling stories

[ali.7861]

People are always looking for mistakes & imperfections for negotiation
Even if your vehicle doesn't have any imperfections they will start an argue that there's a lot of imperfections

[anon35615524]

My Tiida got sold in almost 10 days, after posting the ad, and absolutely at market price (and slightly higher than my purchase price).

To my surprise, the response for Tiida was best, when compared to Vitz, and most obvious reasons seemed: White colour, genuine / low mileage, total original paint (except bumpers), and 100% major and minor non-accidental, and also the reasonable price for a 1500 cc, CVT Sedan.

Initially I was bit skeptical that Nissan is off-market brand here, then Tiida, further off market, when compared to Sunny, etc. Then JDM, CVT, etc. multiple thoughts, however, the response surprised me, which made me think a lot, and reach to the conclusion / mindset of potential buyers that; irrespective of any specific / particular make, model, model year, etc. a potential buyer already has some price bracket in mind, and even if your vehicle is in outclass / extraordinary condition, an ordinary buyer will not stretch his budget.

If your vehicle is in outclass / extraordinary condition, and has something unique, it will get sold, however off market it is!

[anon35615524]

Then, if Vitz is in extra ordinary condition, is priced as per market, but is a hatchback, and on the other hand, there is a Sedan, in great condition, but is priced almost half of Vitz, a potential buyer will always opt for Sedan, not hatchback (even I may also do the same now).

Anyways, many contacted, and mostly contacted via Pakwheels chat / SMS, which make me reach to the conclusion that all of them were dealers, low ballers and time wasters. A genuine buyer will always call, and immediately call. He / she will not go in to the stupidity of text messages.

Agar kisi ney 15 lac ki car khareedni hai, to 15 Rs. ki call to banda afford kar hi laita hai...

[anon35615524]

I usually did not reply to Pakwheels chat / SMS, and immediately deleted the text messages.

On call, provided relevant details, and some did not come, even after commitments.

Once a father (aged 50-60, with beard and looking quite Baároub) came with his son to buy the car. He thoroughly inspected, I told him everything I know about. His son took the test drive, and checked engine, but the way he did it, made me think, I must not have given him. But again, we cannot stop a potential genuine buyer for test drive.

We bargained and reached to a mutual consensus. Everything was checked, discussed and agreed, and when finally it came to token money, he first said that he will give me immediately. Then he said he will give me tomorrow and pay all the money at once, after discussing with family. I said, OK, No problem, in any case.

[anon35615524]

Next day, he called me in the morning and apologized that he is not buying, as his home minister has not vetted it. She said that 660 cc car is enough, and 1500 cc will prove costly in terms of running cost, maintenance, etc.

A moment of silence for that gentleman...

I was like what??? Why did you waste my 4-5 hours, if at the end, you had to go for 660 cc car only?

Why you 1st didn't ask your home minister, if she had to decide everything and has hold in any / all matters?

660 VS 1500, and hatchback VS Sedan, etc. these are altogether 02 different things and leagues of cars, and cannot be compared with each other, and potential buyer has already decided what he wants?

Anyways, again out of his Buzurgi, I did not say him anything and dropped the call with Shaistagi.

So aesa b hota hai...

And also learned one thing k Banda jitna b buzurg ho, Baároub ho, daarhi wala ho, shaaeer ho, etc. but apni ghar wali k aagay bilkul bebass aur dhaaeer ho jata hai... Bivioón ka bohat roub hota hai...

[ali.7861]

I always looked for tiida hatchback to while looking for vitz passo & others didn't found one untill I bought an Cultus later on while searching on classified site found one for sale in 8.5lacs I think
Later I found few of these tiida hatchback I would totally recommend it instead of vitz if someone is willing keep it for a long time..
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Next day, he called me in the morning and apologized that he is not buying, as his home minister has not vetted it. She said that 660 cc car is enough, and 1500 cc will prove costly in terms of running cost, maintenance, etc.

A moment of silence for that gentleman...

I was like what??? Why did you waste my 4-5 hours, if at the end, you had to go for 660 cc car only?

Why you 1st didn't ask your home minister, if she had to decide everything and has hold in any / all matters?

660 VS 1500, and hatchback VS Sedan, etc. these are altogether 02 different things and leagues of cars, and cannot be compared with each other, and potential buyer has already decided what he wants?

Anyways, again out of his Buzurgi, I did not say him anything and dropped the call with Shaistagi.

So aesa b hota hai...

And also learned one thing k Banda jitna b buzurg ho, Baároub ho, daarhi wala ho, shaaeer ho, etc. but apni ghar wali k aagay bilkul bebass aur dhaaeer ho jata hai... Bivioón ka bohat roub hota hai...

[anon35615524]

YES. Nissan is really something, if someone wants to keep it for long!

[xuhaibkhan1]

Its not just the showroom owners who try to scam or sell you a faulty car, its also people among us who try to lie and sell their accidental car.

While I was searching for corolla on Maulana Shukat Ali Road, I saw a two guys stopping at every showroom on their white corolla. As I was looking for a same car, I asked them if they are selling, what price they are seeking, they asked 2.1Million

The same model car in market was around 2.3million, so that made me very interested in the car. Being a common man I tried looking on body and engine and tapping the body tik tik here and there. lol

I asked them if there is anything wrong with car, and why they selling at this price, to which they said they need to sell the car due to some family emergency and are in need of money.

I was almost going to give them token but I then thought to show car to my friend who owns a showroom. As soon I told them that I have a friend who have a showroom here and is coming to inspect, BAMM he started closing doors and bonet. I asked him what happened? He said your friend wont like the car. I ask him why? whats wrong with the car? He said actually the car is FRONT HIT and thats why they selling at 2.1 Million.

By that time my friend had already came and told me that these guys have been coming here for last 3 weeks and trying to sell, and they are not offered more then 1.7million for the car.

I was lucky, but I think they would have successfully sold the car to someone like me anyway.

[ali.7861]

I used to calculate the prices of used cars via classified nowadays its very hard to calculate because almost every vehicle in classifieds are asking are overpriced or expensive

[ali.7861]

Body panels are repairable + they can be changed also not a big issue actually one can actually match the paint of changed penal to the original penal with original paint
Major problem is with structural damage mechanical & electrical issues

[Massive_One]

Its not just the showroom owners who try to scam or sell you a faulty car, its also people among us who try to lie and sell their accidental car.

indeed, showroom walay bhi hum logon main se aye hain.. in general awam ka behavior aisa hi hai.. jiska jitna dao lagay, laga lo !

[zakiuddin]

Here's how i buy cars:
1. If the car is parked on its usual parking spot, i'll just move the car around and look for any signs of fresh oil drops where it was parked.
2. If the car is cold, i'll open up the radiator cap and look for signs of oil contamination, which usually leaves a rainbow on top of coolant.
3. If the car is warm/hot and coolant check is not possible, i'll open the engine cap (engine not running) and look for white foam under the oil cap or dipstick.. Step 2 and 3 confirms that head gasket is OK.
4. If the engine has a plastic timing cover, it's a timing belt, if it's metallic then it's a timing chain. If it's a timing belt i ask for when the belt was last changed, if it's metallic, i try to listen to timing chain rattle and clanks, especially on cold startups and with a couple of pumps on the accelerator.
5. To judge whether the meter has been reversed, i'd look for general wear and tear which matches the odometer.. I won't expect the rubber on foot pedals to disappear before 150k, unless it's a Mehran..
6. I'd also keep an eye out for a car that emits white smoke during warmup which means leaking valve seals.
7. Check Engine light, SRS light or any other warning light raises questions.
8. I won't check the door locks, lights or wipers.. even the CV joints i don't mind.. i don't expect a new car and every car has a character of his own...

[mgalaxy3]

1. If the engine has a plastic timing cover, it's a timing belt, if it's metallic then it's a timing chain. If it's a timing belt i ask for when the belt was last changed, if it's metallic, i try to listen to timing chain rattle and clanks, especially on cold startups and with a couple of pumps on the accelerator.

This isn't really true. E.g., 1kr-fe, like Vitz, has a plastic cover and a timing chain instead of a belt.

[zakiuddin]

Maybe you are right as i'm not much familiar with Vitz.
A lose chain can possibly eat out a plastic cover so i've almost always seen a Metallic cover combo with a chain.

[ali.7861]

Kuch kison main amm awaam showroom walon se bhi agay hain Chuna lagane main
Taali ek hath se nahi bajti
Used market ki jo halat abh hui uss main private sellers ka bhi utna he kasoor ya ye kehna na-munasib na hoga k ziyada inka kasoor hai

Its not just the showroom owners who try to scam or sell you a faulty car, its also people among us who try to lie and sell their accidental car.

indeed, showroom walay bhi hum logon main se aye hain.. in general awam ka behavior aisa hi hai.. jiska jitna dao lagay, laga lo !

[ali.7861]

Kuch log juggad karke engine check light off kardete hain
Toh mera ye khayal hai k scan zaror Karna chahiye
Plus Suspension electrical issues Tyres bhi check Kar leni chahiye

Here's how i buy cars:
1. If the car is parked on its usual parking spot, i'll just move the car around and look for any signs of fresh oil drops where it was parked.
2. If the car is cold, i'll open up the radiator cap and look for signs of oil contamination, which usually leaves a rainbow on top of coolant.
3. If the car is warm/hot and coolant check is not possible, i'll open the engine cap (engine not running) and look for white foam under the oil cap or dipstick.. Step 2 and 3 confirms that head gasket is OK.
4. If the engine has a plastic timing cover, it's a timing belt, if it's metallic then it's a timing chain. If it's a timing belt i ask for when the belt was last changed, if it's metallic, i try to listen to timing chain rattle and clanks, especially on cold startups and with a couple of pumps on the accelerator.
5. To judge whether the meter has been reversed, i'd look for general wear and tear which matches the odometer.. I won't expect the rubber on foot pedals to disappear before 150k, unless it's a Mehran..
6. I'd also keep an eye out for a car that emits white smoke during warmup which means leaking valve seals.
7. Check Engine light, SRS light or any other warning light raises questions.
8. I won't check the door locks, lights or wipers.. even the CV joints i don't mind.. i don't expect a new car and every car has a character of his own...

[xuhaibkhan1]

In my personal opinion, Its doen't matter how smart you are of have knowledge, sellers will always be more smart. It goes for both showroom sellers and private sellers who sell their car very often.

I believe the owners always know whats up with their car, but would not say anything bad/negative/fault about their car to buyer. I change car once every 3 years, so its not possible for people like me to keep up with the new tricks people using to sell their cars.

I have seen a time when only good car could be found on sunday on a JUNG newspaper. Then with years it turned out to be dealers listings their numbers and sending callers/potential buys who would call them, to someones office or home to check the car claiming that they arent available but car can be checked.

Then came the time when people started listing thier cans on olx and pakwheel with details and it became easier for buyers to sell their car, but now dealers are here too, they will list the cars online with unreasonable prices, that actually confuses people who dont buy cars every year.

Its getting more confusing/difficult buying used cars these days, Sellers are trying to scam/hide/lie to buyers and buyers are also doing the same, this is going on as people think " Chuna lago gy nahi to lag jae ga" We are not trustworthy, and not always tell the truth, and thats why we failing as a society.

[ali.7861]

Agreed it's a bitter reality
But not only seller but buyers are also annoying & trickier to handle
Bhai gari itne main de dein
Agar deal ban jati hai toh phir aur masle they will try to negotiate even after agreeing on price tag
Koi nuks na bhi ho toh nuks nikalte hain to negotiate the price

[hyundaiaccent495]

Now searching online car is not much useful because of very high prices even the prices are higher then the market.and these online cars are trash.e.g last year looking a santro,through online web we met an uncle who was selling his 2006 model total faded colour, one side doors accidented,ac was not working and he was demanding 5.5 lac,when a good condition santro club 2005 or 2006 (not bumper to bumper original) was avalible in 5 lac.but to my amzae fully showered and lowest condition cars were not avalible in 5.25 lac on online websites.me and my friend was fed up with looking online cars because they were "BEKAR" and
Demanding prices were of like they are selling jems.at that time my neghibour purchased a santro for 4.5 lac condition was good.from some home .(not online ).then we also saw a santro by some reference parked in a home only 2 or 3 pieces showered sky blue color and condition was good and demand was 4.75lac due to some reasons we could not make deal with him,after some days,in a bazar we saw this guy we ask him that he had sold his car or not?he told us that he had sold his car for 4.65 now intresting part after that i was searching santro online and i saw that sky blue santro which was sold by above mention guy who had sold to some one for 4.65,the same car was listed by the new buyer for 5.5 or above.By viewing this i was surprised and my trust on online cars are finished.

[Xulfiqar]

But everyone and their mother in law cherishes genuine paint no matter if it now only primer and rust.

Just look at this thread, you will notice people explaining cars by saying “only 2 piece showered”