Vintage & Classic Car Club of Pakistan

[safeershah]

@mohsin

who have all these bikes, i think its a old picture. The guy still owned these bikes and he is from Pakistan or india? Nadeem was telling me about a guy who is living in Lahore and have more than 100 bikes but as you know he is conn-artist so cant believe him , do you know a guy like this ?

[KhakiMB]

@neurosurgeon,

Cheep up!!! Hope the cars therapy worked for you. It does wonders for me. Love the yellow color of the fiat.

I think all of us have driver issues. Mine went for his extended x-max holidays, on wife duty as well.

@Mohsin,
Thank you for the update. And that pic is bike heaven under one roof. Is he selling any or are they his project bikes?

[mohsinikram]

@safeershah & khakiMB
the bikes are in Delhi....this guy has about 300 bikes. There's another guy Sharma who also has about 100 bikes and he sells.

[icemetal]

@ Mohsin

Is it possible to bring a project bike from India ? i dont see that happening, what are your thoughts on that.

[mohsinikram]

@icemetal
Indians are like Pakistanis...anything for money. I met this guy who claimed that he could send a bike to Lahore for Rs.10,000/-. I was keen on a 1919 Indian which he was selling for indian Rs.350,000/-.

[mohsinikram]

saturday and sunday were spent working on Mustang and Lincoln. Mustang got new universal joints, driveshaft was balanced, new rear gas shocks were taken out and old oil shocks put back as the car was misbehaving at the rear...exhaust bracket was loose and repaired....Lincoln needed a tune up which is 5 hrs job - some pics

[au]

mohsinikram.

why is it a 5 hour job? whats a typical tune-up like for the lincoln?

and how was the rear-end misbehaving? too much roll?

[wasifali89]

amazed to see that bike collection

i wonder why isnt he robbed ?????

[wasifali89]

https://www.pakwheels.com/xt_details.asp?CarID=50605#

can anybody explain this to us

cux ive neva read abt this item here on PW

[mohsinikram]

@au
when r u coming to Karachi? You and your questions Remember its a 12 cyllinder, thats 3 times the size of a Suzuki Khyber engine. 12 plugs to set and clean. The main thing is the distibutor. It has to be taken off the car to be serviced or even for setting up points gap. It has two points. Then valve clearance is another heck of an effort. Distributor took about 3 hrs as we completely took it apart, cleaned it and put t back.

The Mustang on hard acceleration in 1st or 2nd gear would judder and shake fromthe rear so much at times that it would seem that everything will fall off. This was because the gas shocks were too hard, leaf springs soft as I have lowered the car and the Mustang has no weight at the rear. So just puting in oil shocks has made 60% diference. Tomorrow i am going to do something to the leaf springs and the car should be ok. It should burn some serious rubber..

[mohsinikram]

@wasifali89
thanks for leting us know about this MB in Lahore. I have been hearing about it for sometime and it was discussed in our thread as well. The car I believe was also displayed at a showroom for many months with asking price of 15 lacs. It looks like in great condition though it is not a 1938. My first car was a similar 170 and was a 1949. This one is a 1950-51 surely. Prewar cars had 4 spoke steering, handbrake next to the gear lever, and gauges were ivory. The post war cars (like this one) had 3 spoke steering, handbrake under the dash and black guages. The 170 was introducd in 1936 and continued till 1941. production began in 1949 and lasted till 1955 though with with minor changes. The exact month and year of production of these cars is stamped on the wheel between the wheel lugs. It would be interesting if one of our Lahore member checks it out.

[afarooqi]

Please read this article complete.
http://www.ummatpublication.com/2008/12/30/story8.html

I guess the writer has some misconception about VCCP club. We should clarify or something we should. I believe neither Pakwheels nor VCCP is promoting street racing.

[Hunbal]

Lol ...well i find the article funny ....the guy surely did not do his home work

[icemetal]

@ all ,,,

This is a very clear example of immature journalism. I would suggest we should let them talk. By the way when it says a fair amount of money is involved then it raises more questions. It is better to stay hush. If we approach them by any mean they might start writing more about us, whether its true or false but they will be having an excuse. We can’t change their opinions.

I don’t know if VCCCP is registered as a body under any law in Pakistan or is it just a group of vintage car enthusiasts who have a name. If VCCCP is registered under any law then the attorney can provide them explanation that we are not involved in any illegal street racing activity.

[mohsinikram]

@afarooqi, hunbal and Icemetal
Thanks for bringing this to our notice...I just couldn't hold myself back and sent this to Ummat:

Dear Editor

This is to bring to your attention our extreme displeasure at being named in an article by Abdul Nadeem Baloch dated 30th December 2008 where it has been alleged that Vintage & Classic Car Club of Pakistan (VCCCP) is involved in illegal street racing. We strongly deny this allegation and condemn this irresponsible reporting by the above reporter who obviously has no knowledge on the subject that he chose to write on. Let me tell you some facts about our club.

VCCCP was founded in 1987 by like minded enthusiasts of vintage & classic cars.

One of the main objectives of teh club is to save the country's heritage on wheels. The club has saved over 150 historical cars over the last few years and our efforts in projecting a softer image of Pakistan to the outside world has been recognized by the Government of Pakistan. e.g. we have saved a car that was used on 14th August 1947 for taking Mr. Mohammad Ali Jinnah and Lord Mountbatten from the Governors House to the Sindh Assembly building where Mr. Jinnah took oath as the first Governor General of Pakistan, we are making eforts to save Mohtarma Fatima Jinnah's cars which are in absolute condemned condition.

The VCCCP in its 21 years of existance has never organised or taken part in a race.

The VCCCP has no garage of its own as alleged by the writer.

VCCCP is registered with FIA i.e. Federation International Automobile and Federation International Vintage Automobile.

VCCCP is affilliated with many car clubs across the world and our website has brought Pakistan on the map of those countries who care for their heritage.

VCCCP was invited by the Governor of Sindh to introduce the club to the Sindh Cabinet recognizing our efforts in saving country's heritage

VCCCP was invited by the Chief Minister of Punjab to discuss how the club could work with the Punjab Government in holding friendship rallies with SAARC countries.

The ex-President of Pakistan heard about our activities and asked a senior government official to contact us and get information on the club. The information was faxed to the Presidents House as requested and subsequently President's representative met the undersigned to discuss certain issue that he wanted us to take up for the Government of Pakistan.

VCCCP on Frontier Heritage Trust's request is helping them restore two fire engines dating back to 1912 and 1915.

VCCCP memebers do not modify their cars. Extreme care and expense is involved in ensuring that the car s restored to its original specification.

We expect an immediate apology or clarification in your publication at the earliest. On another note, I invite you to come to our club's head quarter and we would be happy to show you what we are doing in the near future. Also bring Mr. Baloch with you so that he sees himself that what he wrote was utter rubbish about our club.

Best regards

Mohsin Ikram
Founder & President
Vintage & Classic Car Club of Pakistan
www.vcccp.com

[icemetal]

@ mohsinikram

extraordinary reply. I hope this would enlight the paper and the reporter who has submitted the article.

But time would tell.

[wasifali89]

@moshin bhai

thankx 4 the info on the benz
i loved its condition when i looked at it

[afarooqi]

@mohsinikram

Sir thank you for mail to Ummat. I just wanted the similar kind of reply to be sent to their management.

[KhakiMB]

@Mohsin,

Well put! Perhaps a little line indicating that if no action is taken by the paper in the form of a written apology then legal action may be taken for misrepresentation, defamation and false information.

[mohsinikram]

@khakiMB
my e mail was sent before I posted it here - I 'll go and visit them sometime. I 'll be very polite and nice to them and will go in my Lincoln. I 'll also present them with club caps and t shirts and a dvd of our show.