Vintage & Classic Car Club of Pakistan

[haseebkhokhar]

sir thanks for the advice but cant find a 3door crown and the secound pic is of buick revera and the last two are of the great beracuda and i cant find any of these american beast in pakistan need help even a project car will do the job.

[haseebkhokhar]

Are you asking me? If yes, then your best bet is to look in Karachi. That city has the highest population of US steel. If you are looking for vintage machinery, Quetta and Peshawar may yield results. But it is not easy.

sir can you help me with some cars which are in karachi and even in islamabad cuz cant find something good and in a reasonable price even aproject car will do the job but plz help

[msabbasi]

sir can you help me with some cars which are in karachi and even in islamabad cuz cant find something good and in a reasonable price even aproject car will do the job but plz help

I am not in contact with any 2 door muscle car owner. Plus I personally don't like American cars , more into UK and German cars

However, this is a long shot and depends on how serious you are. What you need to do is make a trip out to Islamabad and get in touch with me once you are here. I'll put you in touch with a mechanic who works on such cars and MAYBE he might help you. I am guessing he will charge you a finder's fee. I personally am not great friends with this chap, it is just that his shop is on the way and I see all sorts of work going on in his shop on mainly American cars. As I said it all depends on how serious you are and how deep your pockets are.

[haseebkhokhar]

I am not in contact with any 2 door muscle car owner. Plus I personally don't like American cars , more into UK and German cars

However, this is a long shot and depends on how serious you are. What you need to do is make a trip out to Islamabad and get in touch with me once you are here. I'll put you in touch with a mechanic who works on such cars and MAYBE he might help you. I am guessing he will charge you a finder's fee. I personally am not great friends with this chap, it is just that his shop is on the way and I see all sorts of work going on in his shop on mainly American cars. As I said it all depends on how serious you are and how deep your pockets are.

sir i am now in islamabad g11\3 where ru ?

[msabbasi]

sir i am now in islamabad g11\3 where ru ?

This is very good news. I have PMed you my number. Please call me.

[msabbasi]

sir i am now in islamabad g11\3 where ru ?

No response from you so far. Waited for you to get in touch with me all day. Please note that I will be leaving for Lahore on Friday. Kindly get in touch latest by tomorrow.

[msabbasi]

Can anyone identify this odd green coupe spotted at a workshop near my house:

[a_k]

Lotus Esprit 1976 ??

[TM]

Can anyone identify this odd green coupe spotted at a workshop near my house:

Ummm were these photographs take just last week or 10 days ago????

[msabbasi]

Ummm were these photographs take just last week or 10 days ago????

No! Took them this evening:) Soo what's the car?? Hint: It dates from 1973. The body is fibre glass

[capsat]

The Lotus' first saloon car was front engined with rear wheel drive. Like all production Lotuses since the Elan, the Elite II used fiberglass for the hatchback bodyshell, mounted on a steel backbone chassis evolved from the Elan and Europa. It had 4-wheel independent suspension using coil springs. Power steering and air conditioning were optional from 1974. The Elite II was the basis for the Eclat, and the later Excel four-seaters.

The Elite II was Lotus' first car to use the "907" aluminium-block 4-valve, DOHC, four cylinder, 2.0 L engine. (The 907 engine had previously been used in Jensen-Healeys.) The 907 engine ultimately became the foundation for the Lotus Esprit powerplants, both naturally-aspirated and turbocharged. Elite IIs were available with a 5-speed gearbox standard; from January 1976 an automatic transmission was optional.

Regarding performance, the Elite and Elite II (and the related Eclat) are notable in that the stock curb weight is not much over 2000 lb (907 kg). Once the motors reach their power band, both acceleration and handling are impressive.​

[msabbasi]

The Lotus' first saloon car was front engined with rear wheel drive. Like all production Lotuses since the Elan, the Elite II used fiberglass for the hatchback bodyshell, mounted on a steel backbone chassis evolved from the Elan and Europa. It had 4-wheel independent suspension using coil springs. Power steering and air conditioning were optional from 1974. The Elite II was the basis for the Eclat, and the later Excel four-seaters.

The Elite II was Lotus' first car to use the "907" aluminium-block 4-valve, DOHC, four cylinder, 2.0 L engine. (The 907 engine had previously been used in Jensen-Healeys.) The 907 engine ultimately became the foundation for the Lotus Esprit powerplants, both naturally-aspirated and turbocharged. Elite IIs were available with a 5-speed gearbox standard; from January 1976 an automatic transmission was optional.

Regarding performance, the Elite and Elite II (and the related Eclat) are notable in that the stock curb weight is not much over 2000 lb (907 kg). Once the motors reach their power band, both acceleration and handling are impressive.​

Good try, but, sorry sir. It is not a Lotus. Second hint. It is French and mid engined!! :o. That should help pin it down.

[capsat]

SIMCA ?? GRRR -- The Citroen lowered pneumatic suspension ?? can't be Peugot or Renault

http://uniquecarsandparts.com/car_info_matra_bagheera.htm

[sufian_noshad]

I have had the chance to see one of these in person at a motor show in England.
If I remember it right the company who made them is called Matra and the car is called Bagheera.

[msabbasi]

SIMCA ?? GRRR -- The Citroen lowered pneumatic suspension ?? can't be Peugot or Renault

http://uniquecarsandparts.com/car_info_matra_bagheera.htm

It the car to which you have posted the SIMCA link.

I have had the chance to see one of these in person at a motor show in England.
If I remember it right the company who made them is called Matra and the car is called Bagheera.

Full marks to both of you gents. You are spot on. It is indeed a Matra Bagheera. The proper name is Matra-Simca Bagheera. This car was the result of collaboration between the French race car builder Matra and Simca (Chrysler's interest in France). The car was fitted with a 1.3 litre Simca mid mounted engine later upgraded to 1.4 litre. Performance was 0-60 time of around 11 sec and top speed of 115 mph.

Interesting features were: Fibre glass body mounted on a steel frame. Due to almost zero rust protection to its steel frame, these cars used to rust alarmingly fast and had a habit of falling apart just standing in the drive way. It was a famous joke that the only thing faster that the Bagheera's accelleration was its ability to rust. In a competition of body styling, it won an award beating the likes of Ferrari 308 and all other entrants. That is the only area where it beat a Ferrari. It had three abreast seating. The local car has the rare sun roof option. Here is the spec sheet from a book in my library:

And some pics off the net.

A nice cut away showing inner details. Note the three abreast seating

The same colour as our local car. This green was a factory colour.

Whacky interior

Here is a video of Bagheras unlimited: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLfFiy9Kg1E

[hassanazeem]

This Belongs to a very dear friend and mentor of mine who also happens to own the 67 Impala, the 63 Impala and the 73 Mustang standing in close vicinity to this little car... if you go inside the workshop, there is a rather interesting Hot rod that he is working on as well... None other than Mr. Fouad Hafeez...

[a_k]

so who copied who?

[msabbasi]

This Belongs to a very dear friend and mentor of mine who also happens to own the 67 Impala, the 63 Impala and the 73 Mustang standing in close vicinity to this little car... if you go inside the workshop, there is a rather interesting Hot rod that he is working on as well... None other than Mr. Fouad Hafeez...

Indeed these are fine cars in need of a caretaker who understands them and bring them back to their former glory. A lot of interesting work goes on in that workshop. There is even a fiber glass copy of a Lamborghini standing in the back :). Some of my friends take their classics to the same mechanic as well. I think I have met Mr. Fouad Hafiz in one of the Pakwheels GTGs here. He is very talented.

Most probably this Matra will be upgraded in the absence of original parts.

[fouadhafeez]

Indeed these are fine cars in need of a caretaker who understands them and bring them back to their former glory. A lot of interesting work goes on in that workshop. There is even a fiber glass copy of a Lamborghini standing in the back :). Some of my friends take their classics to the same mechanic as well. I think I have met Mr. Fouad Hafiz in one of the Pakwheels GTGs here. He is very talented.

Most probably this Matra will be upgraded in the absence of original parts.

Very kind, but completely untrue compliments, sir. I can claim absolutely no talent at all...just a near-fanatic devotion to cars, in general.

You'll be quite surprised that restoring the Baggy mechanically will actually be no problem at all...IF I go down that route rather than modding it. The car does have its own 84 bhp 1.4L engine along with a manual tranny and is working; albeit at sub-optimal compression. The Matra Bagheera owners (in the UK, France and other parts of the world) are a die-hard devoted bunch and truly helpful sorts. I have managed to track down a completely refurbished good-compression engine from a '74 Baggy (this car's model) and it actually doesn't cost the sun and the moon. I'm still wrangling on how to have it transported to Pakistan, as cheaply as possible, though. The interior is also in quite poor shape...but since we DO have everything complete, putting it back to life isn't entirely insurmountable. Just time-consuming and laborious.

Body work is a cinch (since its polyester-based)...other than the metalwork which does have a lot of rot.

Of course, the easy (and most reliable thing) would be to bung in a performance engine that mounts at the rear (such as a 2ZZ VVTLi with its six-speed Tiptronic transmission, which would up the horsepower to 200 odd bhp), add modified diffs, disc brakes and exhausts...and turn this under 900 kilo car into the quintessential pocket rocket. In comparison, my 145 bhp MR2 supercharged AW11 (one of my other smaller, very quick, very good-handling cars) weighs almost three hundred kilos more!

I'm still undecided about the Baggy. Let's wait for the other cars to reach completion first. Thanks for all the interest!

[zia1288]

Spotted this beautiful Merc in Cantt. in Ramadan
@haroon_tarar

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