What is function of advancer & emulator with cng

[server4lims]

dear
i have installed cng in some cars(almost all of them were carburetor cars & most of them were suzuki cars) but if i am not mistaken i have not installed advancer/emulator in any of them
i just bought & pay for cng kit as well as cylinder, nothing more ( i always prefer landirenzo as kit & inflex as cylinder)

so for my information that please tell can we install advancer or emulator in carby cars or they r only specific for efi cars

if i install ordinary cng kit (without advancer/emulator) in efi cars, will it work or not

so tell me in detail what is purpose of advancer /emulator & relating devices

if possible try to also tell the cost of each device

[BMW7Series]

sir ye efi cars main use hota hy.
is say gas ke adjusment hoti hy..
ye proper quantity main gas supply karta hy.
Fuel economy increase hoti hy..........
they cost near abt 5k
agar ap ye cng k sath use nai karen gay to chote motay problems asakte hain.....

[server4lims]

plz. any body reply as i have one city idsi so what should i do, teach me

[server4lims]

@bmw
this menas i can install just cng kit without advancer/emulator(chotay motay prob. i dont care)
anyway r u talking of advancer or emulator or both r same ,any other opinion?

[saad_hbp]

absolutely wrong Mr. BMW series. Advancer emulator is used only in efi cars, it emulates the signal needed by the ECU to give proper spark timing with respect to the TPS signal, and while a car is on CNG mode, it keeps sending fake information to our ECU to keep its mouth shut otherwise you'll see the yellow check engine light turn on. When you donot know about something, please leave it or try to learn about it rather than mislead someone!!!

[saad_hbp]

It does not adjust any gas amount/flow since gas is not injected via the injectors. it automatically shifts from petrol to gas by switching off the injectors and with minimum delay it turns CNG solenoid on.Infact you can adjust the changeover time overlap.

[Ghuncha]

both of you guys have no idea what you are talking about.

by the nature of it cng wants an advance spark relative to petrol, the advancer does that, it advances the spark. the unit used to advance is degree of crank. it can be used in any petrol car, no matter carby or efi, distributor one or DLI one. tps is only used to point out a range where the advancing is done.

on the other hand emulator is used to cut of the signal to the injector, thats it.. the fuel rail remains pressurized only the injectors are disconnected, this can also be done by a simple relay. only in efi cars, as is carby ones there are no injectors.

[SER_GTR]

Agreed With Ghuncha....Advancer Can Be Used On Any Cars...Thats Different Thing That Here On Efi Cars Where You Can't Advance With Distributor...You Use Advancer.....!!
Emulators Fools ECU That Injectors Are Working Whereas They Are'nt When Converted On CNG....

[overspeed111]

dear bro tell me about what is the function of LADIRENZO PETROL SOLENOID as written on that device.... as i changed the fuel pump with electronic fuel pump the mechanic took off that device from the car and i dont know the function of that device...and btw the car is cultus....thanks in advace....

[hash4u]

dexter and JDM nicely explained

[SER_GTR]

Solenoid Cuts Off Fuel Supply When Car Is On CNG And Revert Back Its Supply Once You Convert It Back On Petrol...Its A Kind On Valve Or Say Petrol Door Which Opens And Close When Needed...!!

[zubairshah_ciit]

absolutely wrong Mr. BMW series. Advancer emulator is used only in efi cars, it emulates the signal needed by the ECU to give proper spark timing with respect to the TPS signal, and while a car is on CNG mode, it keeps sending fake information to our ECU to keep its mouth shut otherwise you'll see the yellow check engine light turn on. When you donot know about something, please leave it or try to learn about it rather than mislead someone!!!

Very Informative. Yaar plz help me. I have a civic 2007(1.8). It some times show Check light and then accelator doesnt work completely or doesnt cross 3*1000 Rpm. This usualy happens after washing my car and automatically becomes OK after a day or two. I dont wash engine. But previous owner once washed its engine. My cell is 0345-5187123. Zubair

[tushkachudasama]

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