2021 Honda City GM6 Dedicated Discussion, Owner/ Fan Club Thread

[an_average_car_user]

It seems that this will continue... and looking at the bookings it doesn't look like that they won't get away with it...

Is liay to kehta hu in fanboys ko samjhao. Is me hum sab ka faida hai. Yahan to ye halaat hain ke agar honda 5th gen me features daal ke launch kar deta to uspe bhi own chal raha hota and blind bookings ho rahi hoti.

[kmq007]

Ideally yes... but it seems that its using a special kind of battery in Lumeire variant... the battery of the other 2 variants is for 12K.

Engineers can comment better.
I am a doctor

[pwuser151967054480]

It might be AGM battery and not the usual dry sealed lead acid type. Those batteries require different charging rates and might be leading to issues.

[eemmads514352]

KIA, the parent Korean Company has a partner here;Lucky motors. Hyundai has Nishat as partners.

Its all about how their partners go about in the pakistani market. Lucky group has been successful when it came to sportage. But sorento has been a dud. Picanto had alot of potential yet priced badly. Dont know much about carnival.

Hyundai nishat and their issues are infront of everyone.

Please dont get me started on the chinese brands. Loved Alsvin's look but heard about inherent problems. And MG.....

So for now the safest bet that a rational consumer in Pakistan, who is using up his hard earned savings for a car to last him atleast 3 to 4 years and give him reasonable resale has to be the japanese....primarily Toyota and Honda only as Suzuki is focused on small car segment.

[burhanahmed1]

Paddle shifters are also something good to have but they will skip.

In my opinion, Paddle shifters are a useless feature in a car with CVT transmission

[umfa85]

Yes, that why i mentioned Good to have "additional saska".. similarly HA is also not must to have and Tractional control doesn't make much difference in FWD small 1.3 ~1.5L sedans. But lets see which more features honda has to offer.

There should be 1 or 2 more left to advertise before actual launch..

[zahid.geol]

Pakwheels places it against Civic, Corolla and BRV etc. I am not sure why. May be they know it will be priced as such?

[zahid.geol]

Sorry bud Honda is not my competitor, Honda just happens to have a wrong way of treating Pak customers. Being a Pakistani I have every right to voice my opinion against it.

[burhanahmed1]

Pakwheels places it against Civic, Corolla and BRV etc. I am not sure why. May be they know it will be priced as such?

PakWheels ki news sachi hotin to iss thread ka title different hota

[zahid.geol]

Could be either way 50-50 nothing certain unless price is revealed.

Like I said I don't know why they place it against Civic and Corolla etc

[htb456]

New honda turbos are reliable. There are some issues here and there but engine failure is almost non existant.

[an_average_car_user]

New honda turbos are reliable.

A turbo cannot be reliable to a wide band of fuel quality because again, high compression is high compression, and bad-fuel-air mixture is going to pre-ignite and knock. And designing the turbo engine for that with low quality fuel will either make a heavier block or a costly block (expensive alloys), or less HP (which defeats the purpose manufacturers are trying to solve).

But turbos have come a long way recently, but will take probably a leap in metallurgy and manufacturing techniques to make econobox turbos as reliable and long lasting as NAs.

The new LC-300 has a turbo and I have same concerns with it.

There are some issues here and there but engine failure is almost non existant.

Doesn't have to be an engine failure to make your life hard. If, like here in PK, Turbo require frequent spark plug and cat converter replacement, thats unreliable enough for me because its maintenance intensive, and it's costly.

[muhammadjazlan11]

Same internals, gearbox etc. 4 speed gearboxes were literally offered in cars of the old. Stop defending the fact that a 4-speed gearbox is sold on a 3.4 million car.

[pwuser151967054480]

The 1.5t has oil dilution issues that still haven't been solved yet as far as I know. The 1.0t and 2.0t don't have much issues though.

[waqasahmed03]

corolla also missed an entire generation before 2005

[pwuser151967054480]

Carnival is probably the best car released in the past few years which has unfortunately failed due to its minivan looks. It's got loads and loads of features and pretty decent build. Plus got decent acceleration due to the V6. Certainly felt way faster to me than Sportage in test drive and felt like a way better car overall.

[danyalag6]

The 1.5T is actually a great engine. It just has a few quirks that need to be sorted out. The oil dilution only becomes a problem if you only do short trips on your car(a lot of cold starts), or live in extreme cold weather. I wouldn't do short trips and a lot of cold starts even on a N/A car. Allow the engine to warm up properly, and it will never have those issues. It is also, like in typical Honda fashion, an engine that you need to rev if you want to maintain it properly, it will only come to proper temperature then and only then. The engine is actually so efficient that there is very little waste heat to heat the engine block, this causes oil dilution.
Source of all this info: Have lived in the US and owned a used si.

[pwuser151967054480]

Because the Indus shape had a lot of love for it, just like the 11th gen corolla which is still selling in droves. 10th gen became quite unpopular at the end of its cycle and Indus was forced to release 11th. Same with 9th and 8th gen civics previously, but 10th gen civic is still a dream for many and considered a new car for whatever reason. Plus Yaris as a new car is doing pretty well for Indus too. I don't see both atlas and Indus releasing new generations now. City 6th gen was being heavily rumoured 2 years back, while corolla 12 and civic 11 don't seem to be getting much rumors. It takes a lot of time for these 2 to apparently set a new production line and rumors start floating years before release.

[pwuser151967054480]

Great to hear that. But unfortunately spark plugs build up is still common here due to bad fuel quality and hi octane has just gotten wayyyy too expensive now.

[Undeadking0001]

Sorry but Land Cruiser's and Hilux's have had turbodiesels since 1984