A serious fraud from a Pakwheel member Vyrus (Ali haider)

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• DateThe day of the month, displayed in a window on a watch dial typically at the 3 o'clock or 6 o'clock position.
• ChronographComplicated watch with a function for measuring short time periods in addition to its function for permanently displaying hours, minutes and seconds.
• ChronometerLabel given to a watch which has undergone precision tests and received a certificate from an official body (COSC).
• Small secondsA hand on a sub-dial which tracks seconds; typically it completes a full rotation in one minute.
• Transparent case backA transparent case back - frequently made of sapphire - makes it possible to see the movement inside the watch.
• Numbered editionA watch series each of whose pieces is numbered sequentially in the order it is produced.
• TachymeterA tachymeter is an instrument for measuring speed. It is a chronograph with a graduated dial on which speed can be read off in kilometres per hour based on 1000 metres distance.

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• CrystalScratch-resistant sapphire crystal with anti-reflective treatment inside
• CaseSteel
• DialBlack enamel
• Water resistance100 m (330 feet)
• SizeGents

</dd> <dt>movement</dt> <dd> Caliber: Omega 3313 Self-winding chronograph movement with column wheel mechanism and Co-Axial Escapement for greater precision stability and durability of the movement. Free sprung balance, with date, hour, minute and continuous small seconds hands, central chronograph hand.
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[volverine]

@ VIRUS

How dare you said in a sarcastic manner "TYPICAL PAKISTANIS"...wht to u mean by this Mr. Fraudia? You re having some other nationality? No..u seems illegal soul, i hope what i mean...cheaters must be called as BAS*****....

Total Sick ....Absolute insult for humanity....

You really do not deserved to be called as even human being..what to talk about Pakistani....

Your attitude speaks of your family brought up and grooming..three words for you SHAME SHAME SHAME

All Pakwheelers...I HATE ALL THE ******** WHO ARE AGAINST PAKISTAN OR PAKISTANIS...

+1
he is disgrace to this countary

[PKTUN]

I literally LOL'd hard at some posts on here.
@Salik, thanks for the support bro, these people don't know nothing. They all just need a chance to ***** :). Doesn't surprise me at all, typical pakistanis.

@Umer, no worries bro i'll sort it out myself when the time is right.

vyrus tayray maa peyo farangi indian nai ya goray day khubbay tut-tay brown angreez ?

[Ali_basra]

fittaymun tera vyrus

[versatilegenious]

I think most practical solution to the problem would be that if some member who is friend of vyrus must try to solve this issue, be the middle man. This issue needs to be solved rather than flaring it up for the trust in dealings through Pakwheels.

[versatilegenious]

@waqar You're truly a gentleman.

[volverine]

only solution to this is
PULIC HANGING of VYRUS

[AsadGhumman]

Agreed. Vyrus' point of view must be listened before reaching to a final conclusion. What I have perceived so far is that vyrus is not good at explaining himself before others, otherwise no over-clever person can destroy his reputation like this. Some common friend should intervene in between the two.

I think most practical solution to the problem would be that if some member who is friend of vyrus must try to solve this issue, be the middle man. This issue needs to be solved rather than flaring it up for the trust in dealings through Pakwheels.

[versatilegenious]

Agreed. Vyrus' point of view must be listened before reaching to a final conclusion. What I have perceived so far is that vyrus is not good at explaining himself before others, otherwise no over-clever person can destroy his reputation like this. Some common friend should intervene in between the two.

Right. If everyone starts mocking and calling names to him, how can he explain himself?
If any senior member can help in resolving the matter, it would be great

[fawadakbarkhan]

I literally LOL'd hard at some posts on here.
@Salik, thanks for the support bro, these people don't know nothing. They all just need a chance to ***** :). Doesn't surprise me at all, typical pakistanis.

@Umer, no worries bro i'll sort it out myself when the time is right.

stop being a jackass and a badass at the same time mister. if we know nothing, you tell us what to know instead of giving LOLs on posts here.

I see u were brought up in perfectsville, so mr. perfect, my two cents for ur big problem, if you're to die with a bullet, trust me u can't elude it by putting the OP thru such a situation, mark my words: the bullet will find you within the beautiful safe geographical limitations of your house.

and mr perfect, I'd also suggest you to leave Pakistan asap before you do something else with another typical pakistani and he is not fond of opening such threads, instead he likes too play it the hard way.

[fawadakbarkhan]

Right. If everyone starts mocking and calling names to him, how can he explain himself?
If any senior member can help in resolving the matter, it would be great

I bet you didn't read this one and the very first post by him which he edited later on when he saw almost everyone going "in your face".
there is a reason everyone went furious over him.

Sorry to disappoint you Habibs friends but the engine number change ain't happening anytime soon. Won't be replying to this thread anymore.
Thankyou all for the much needed support.

[kazmi_muzammil]

the funny part is, 90% of the comments are focused on teaching this guy vyrus a lesson. I think we should either present a reasonable justified solution first rather than coming up with extreme solutions.

Firstly, the poster should give us details as to how the engine exchange was made and what documents were exchanged at the time the engine exchange was made.

Secondly, I have seen some gentlemen here advising to help out on this situation who know Vyrus personally. That would be the only way out. And I personally feel this guy vyrus is a 20 year old kid who is in some state of Trauma and is scared. You people should get in touch with his parents. Im pretty sure they might help out.

Thirdly, if Vyrus believes that he should not give him the official docs and the TIME IS NOT RIGHT YET, i think you should clarify why you don't wish to do that kid because even a simple call by someone and giving your home address and the posters' home address reporting the car's engine is stolen could cause big issue for a while. Your car will land up in lock up for a while although you could claim it back if u have the engine's real receipt, but with sources in Police, the guy who makes that call can get the car's accessories and parts stripped off. So kid, be reasonable while saying what you are saying or explain why you do not wish to make the arrangement and what would be the best solution according to your observation.

[fahadsoulsnatcher911]

only solution to this is
PULIC HANGING of VYRUS

Life and death aint a joke dude !

[versatilegenious]

I bet you didn't read this one and the very first post by him which he edited later on when he saw almost everyone going "in your face".
there is a reason everyone went furious over him.

Listen bro, if someone starts mocking at you or me, then I'll definitely dont explain myself as I know that people will take it in the wrong way.
Its better to get parents or some senior member involved.

[-Sammy-]

m disappointed to see this .. but yes parents or seniors should be involved to resolve this matter and a common friend between the two might be able to the solve the matter much quicker

[mualiq]

very strange,

[Death_ride]

I have sympathy for both of u (Waqar and vyrus) Waqar u played unsafe on ur hand by paying the whole amount in total without having everything transferred in ur name first ( I would suggest all fellow members to be careful with there transactions in future), and vyrus brother u need to calm urself down, release ur ego a bit and smell the reality here.
I read the post by a user here in which he said u lost ur cousin a couple of months back and is afraid of going out, in some particular areas or something like that, let me tell u something, I don't know the reality of it and I m not denying anyone either but when u r in a position like this or not, don't f**k with anyone, u r welcoming all the trouble to ur doorstep, u live in Pakistan...and ppl should know by now that stuff like this gets them in trouble...u r lucky Waqar is taking it easily(wat I know from the posts) wat if he goes on and get ppl to beat u up or raid ur home with stones? Then wat...?( now please don't be a smartass and think 'oh, I am very powerful, my dad is very powerful, if someone touches me I'll kick his a$$', like every other Pakistani who thinks they are mike Tyson) i live in australia and here the process of buying stuff is not SO much secure or something, it's the same like on this forum, but u know what they don't screw other ppl like u did, It makes me feel sh*t when I see all the English ppl(non Muslim) live there life as we have been taught in Islam....they have followed the politeness, respect and fair trade with each others like Islam says (no wonder they are so ahead of our country)....why can't we Muslims do that....
Is it hard to do so...?
Get a grip of ur selves..both of u...and solve this matter like man to man...
P.S I don't buy ur excuses for a second vyrus...there is absolutely no excuse for ur stupidness...

[vyrus]

Alright gentlemen, it's enough. Act like decent men, and those of you who can't better stay out of this thread. I promised not to post in this thread but a dear friend of mine has requested me to post and clear the situation at hand.
First and foremost, this engine number was never a part of the deal. Mr HABIB (Waqar_UAE) never mentioned this at the time of deal. If i'm trying to co-operate doesn't mean it's my responsibility.
I clearly mentioned before aswell my willingness to help out Habib. Unfortunately that is not enough for him.
If i were a cheat, why would I hand over my NIC? Why would i give away the ECU for free when it wasn't even a part of the deal. I'm sure Mr Habib won't remember this now :). He 'needed' it badly, so bad that he sold it soon after I gave it to him. Regarding the engine charges, Mr Habib is a blatant liar. He never agreed to pay the charges. Not that I needed them, but he is the classic example of what we could call a leech. This man also tried to trick me into signing a legal paper. I told him if a legal paper helps, i'm all for it. he brings a blank legal paper and wants me to sign on it. And then he calls me a fraud. What kind of a fraudster gives away stuff for free ? What kind of a fraudster deals at his own place ?
And to all the people giving me lectures regarding getting outta my 'house'. Please spare that because i'm not new to Karachi. I know how it works here. I'd love to see the looks on the faces of people when their loved one is taken away. THEN you can come tell me it's safe to roam around karachi. How ignorant are we. We all know the number of people killed daily in karachi not to mention the several other issues going on in the city.
Again, I would appreciate if people acted in a civilized manner.

[2c]

Alright gentlemen, it's enough. Act like decent men, and those of you who can't better stay out of this thread. I promised not to post in this thread but a dear friend of mine has requested me to post and clear the situation at hand.
First and foremost, this engine number was never a part of the deal. Mr HABIB (Waqar_UAE) never mentioned this at the time of deal. If i'm trying to co-operate doesn't mean it's my responsibility.
I clearly mentioned before aswell my willingness to help out Habib. Unfortunately that is not enough for him.
If i were a cheat, why would I hand over my NIC? Why would i give away the ECU for free when it wasn't even a part of the deal. I'm sure Mr Habib won't remember this now :). He 'needed' it badly, so bad that he sold it soon after I gave it to him. Regarding the engine charges, Mr Habib is a blatant liar. He never agreed to pay the charges. Not that I needed them, but he is the classic example of what we could call a leech. This man also tried to trick me into signing a legal paper. I told him if a legal paper helps, i'm all for it. he brings a blank legal paper and wants me to sign on it. And then he calls me a fraud. What kind of a fraudster gives away stuff for free ? What kind of a fraudster deals at his own place ?
And to all the people giving me lectures regarding getting outta my 'house'. Please spare that because i'm not new to Karachi. I know how it works here. I'd love to see the looks on the faces of people when their loved one is taken away. THEN you can come tell me it's safe to roam around karachi. How ignorant are we. We all know the number of people killed daily in karachi not to mention the several other issues going on in the city.
Again, I would appreciate if people acted in a civilized manner.

good job, every one was acting in a civilized manner but they way you were replying to a serious post was just over the board, now as per your reply waqar has to do some explanations.

[vyrus]

Can I add something here?. Ok...

He was banned some years ago from PakGamers for fraud.

I am glad a fellow PG'er brought this up.
A certain 'MOD' on PG happens to be conducting business. A few years back i was crashing his business, which ofcourse he couldn't tolerate. Hence I was banned without a chance :). Did you ever see any report regarding me ? Have you even seen my trader score, sir ? I'm not the only one, there is another member on this forum that is also a PG'er. I'm sure he can also tell you about the certain 'MOD' i'm talking about.
I've said it before and i'll say it again, people that know me can always vouch for my legitimacy. Many people from PG are still in contact with me even though i'm not on there anymore. Why ? Because they all know the truth.