About to buy Passo 2015 - last minute tips and hints :D?

[anon57393022]

Howdy!

Guys, I am about to buy a Passo 2015, Pearl White 4.5 grade with full options.

Power matters to me and I have only driven this car briefly (a colleagues car for a short drive). Of course, being someone else's car, I could not really push it to see what kinda punch I get but I would like to hear from the owners who have been driving this car for a while...do you feel its under powered?

Hows the 0-100 on this car?

Your opinion may help me save my 1.6m rupees!

Thanks.

[mominkhanics1403]

Its such an amazing car, after buying it you will not feel that you have wasted your money. It's a next level car and power is quite impressive yet abit it feel to be underpower when AC is turned on.
Based on my experience of G package 2015 model passo just 17k driven.

[anon57393022]

Bro, how's the AC during day time in summers?

[anon57393022]

I watched a video of Passo made in Pakistan, 0 - 100 and a, this car had the hardest time touching 100. Please tell me there was something wrong with that particular car or the driver!

[mominkhanics1403]

Ac is quite impressive. I dont remember i've ever used it below 22'c.

[mominkhanics1403]

Thier are a no. Of particulars that are responsible for power of your car that involoves driver, road, weather, car condition, mobile oil. Yet i would say that it is very good car because of its cvt transmition.

[fezan.x]

Very good car in its price. Not underpowered if you drive 1000cc cars only. But if you mostly drive bigger cars then you might feel underpowered (for obvious reasons). I feel it under powered when I switch from Axio to Passo (but whom will not).

[k-four-nine]

Your opinion may help me save my 1.6m rupees!

Please tell me there was something wrong with that particular car or the driver!

You sound like a really anxious person to me.

I also get very anxious before making a big decision; anxious over buyer's remorse, marred by the sheerness of uncertainty and dwelling in the realm of "What if"...

The two most haunted words known to mankind; what if?

Try not to foresee the future for it's unwritten and predicting it is like predicting the contents of a blank book.

Futile, in other words.

So take a deep breath, stand tall and make a choice.

That's what makes a man; a man.

[Feeling very depressed right now; hence the highly metaphorical speech ]

[mominkhanics1403]

Thumbs up​

[anon57393022]

LMAO! I almost took my sword out!

[anon57393022]

I have been driving a 1000cc car for a while. It may not feel so bad after all.

[usama1]

Just for the sake of seeking info...guys don't you feel that once u push the accelerator for a quick pick a wiered aound of engine comes like...grrŕrrrr. ..as in case of all 1.0 vitz... i have seen 2014/2017 passo with 4 grade, it also had the same annoying noise. Owner who happened to be a close friend told me that this is normal on all vitz n passo as they share the same 1.0 engine. However this noise is not found in 1.3l vitz.

[anon57393022]

There is one thing or the other wrong with these engines. Lord have mercy on us.

I have a feeling I will take a detour and go buy a cultus instead.

[usama1]

By the way if you are a perfectionist type person and can't compromise, then go for any PKDM, HOWEVER if you are purely JDM enthusiastic then go for JDM. Everyone has his own choice but keeping in view my experiences with multiple brands of cars JDM and paki since 1996, i am of the strong opinion that PKDM are more feasible for sure in Pakistan. I dont want to list down the long list of technical issues which arise in JDMs very frequently every now and then. At the same time i am not justifying PKDMs but still they are easy to maintain and LESS PROBLEMATIC for sure. I request all please dont take it personal as everyone has his own choice, liking and way of perceiving the things. Nut shell is that if i would have been at your place , i would have never gone for JDM rather i would have prefered even old model but PKDM. Good luck with the purchase.

[anon57393022]

Valuable feed back bro. I dont know why I have been pushing myself to buy a JDM but I just never am VERY satisfied with the decision and keep thinking about buying a PKDM. The only reason I would again consider buying a JDM is because majority of people around me would tell me to go for JDM.

Another huge concern of mine has always been the maintenance. God forbid anything goes wrong these cars, I would not be very hopeful given the expertise of electricians and mechanics. I have had hard enough time with an 'EFI Gaari' and I cant even begin to think about what one could potentially face if things go wrong with JDM.

A colleague of mine spent PKR 90,000 on gear box of a freshly imported Honda Fit (car stayed with the mechanic for 2 months). I, honestly, cannot afford neither the money, nor the time.

I feel like I have just answered myself !

[anon57393022]

Also to add some more points:

• I would personally not be very comfortable taking Passo on a very long journey far away. I would feel some kind of comfort that if something goes wrong with the car, I will be able to get my Cultus fixed or a part replaced sooner instead of a Passo
• Power. Huge concern to me. Local Cultus has a 'punch'. Passo has no punch whatsoever.

[anon57393022]

I cannot believe I am saying all this 1 am where I am supposed to make 'token' payment around 11....!!!

[anon35615524]

@upYOURS
Bro, under-powered is a relative, and not an absolute term (other fellows have explained very well).

I myself own Passo X, 2013 model, and it feels under-powered when; you are 05 adult passengers on-board, boot is full of luggage, AC is running at full and then you have to overtake! otherwise in normal conditions and especially in winters (when AC is turned OFF), it does not feel under-powered. Condition of car (engine, transmission, filters, cleaned catalytic converter, plugs, Tire pressure, etc.) also matter.

What can be expected from a 03 cylinder 1 KR-FE engine, which makes lot of noise and vibrations (due to being 03 cylinder)? and when the self weight of car (Vitz, Passo / Boon) is also huge! Noise and vibrations further increase when you have to overtake and push the pedal to it's max.
(If you have to do it, just turn the AC Off for a few seconds and then turn it ON again. No issues.)

Weight of vehicle to Engine Power (or Torque) ratio also matters.
Just compare 1.0 Vitz with 1.5 Vitz, things will be more clear.

Regarding 0-100, Passo takes more time than Vitz, and I think for this, shape / aerodynamics of Passo are to blame, otherwise, 1KR-FE engine and CVT transmission (which are the main things) are the same in both Vitz and Passo.

Passo is a decent and nice family car, good enough for day-to-day matters.

how's the AC during day time in summers?

In severe hot temperature (42-43+), there is some decline in AC performance, otherwise for 9-10 months for the rest of the year, it works flawlessly and efficiently.

this noise is not found in 1.3l vitz

I think, that noise is due to being 03 cylinder engine. Ist generation 1.0 Vitz came with 04 cylinder engine, however, with 2nd generation and on-wards (till now), 1.0 Vitz comes with 03 cylinder engine. 1.3 Vitz is 04 cylinder since day 01, so no noise and vibrations issues in it.

go buy a cultus instead

Current generation Cultus (Celerio) also has 03 cylinder K10B (K-Next) Engine; vibrations and noise issues can also be there, but their owners can better comment.

Rest @usama1 has also rightly said. If you are about to spend 1.6 million PKR, then brand new, zero meter car can be a wise decision, but also consider following things:

I have Passo, and I never faced any major issues. JDM cars have exceptional and excellent build quality, and 5 Grade (or above) and 2015-2016 model year (or above), low milage car (be it Passo, Boon, or Vitz) can never be compared with a brand new, Zero meter Wagon R, Celerio, etc. Regular, routine maintenance cost is also comparable with that of PKDM cars. Yes, spare parts are quite expensive, but available in all major cities. These cars also do not break down that easily (Dhooka Nai Daitein! )

PKDM / JDM both have their Pros and Cons, but ultimately, one's choice and money matters. As in here, your money, your choice!

I Hope, it helps too. Thank you.

[sk_cooldayz]

Seems like your heart is stuck with local cultus. My advise is to listen everyone around you BUT only do what your heart says. If your heart is with local cultus - Go with Cultus.

I have been driving Passo 2007 model. I have been to Chitral / Naran etc on it. A good car will never be unreliable if you take proper car of it. Arranging body parts for these cars is sometimes a big issue.

[dayrider]

Lol, everyone wants the safe and easy way out. if you don't wanna put in effort, are not much of an enthusiast and have little to no knowledge about the electrics and mechanics of the car, get a cultus.
But if you are willing to make a little effort, have a know how of how the car works, and don't only rely on mechanics' diagnosis, get a passo.
Cvt has a different way of usage as compared to a conventional auto, if you learn that, the car will give you amazing economy when needed and will give you the kick when needed.
I have had a passo from 4 years as a third car in the house, my first car is a 1.8 altis, i still never feel that the passo is under-powered because i learned how to properly use the cvt.
In the end, like everyone else said, its totally your own choice, take opinions in as suggestions but asses yourself and make a decision that will keep you at ease