Axio 2006 AC Compressor

[ajta.forever]

Salam Everyone,

I have been wondering but is there any local corolla which has the same engine as Axio 2006. I have a faulty AC Compressor; the local mechanics suggest alteration and i am not that guy who plays with a cars electronics. I am not looking for Alterations; i just want to know where can i get a new compressor for my car.

Thanks

[affanhaq94]

Just a heads up, has this been confirmed that it's the compressor? Sometimes the clutch can be worn or if electronic coil type, the coil can act up causing engagement issues.

Or just low on refrigerant.

[pwuser166331039855]

Axio shares the same engine with Premio, Corolla, Toyota X, Allion, etc. etc.
There is absolutely no need for the altrations unless this is very very rare compressor to find.

Does your Axio has 1NZFE ? if yes, then its compressors are available in abundance from the old part market.

If you are from Lahore, then I can share you one contact of a guy from Bilal gunj who solely deals with compressors and has plenty of them (Kabuli).

[dani_kk]

2006 Corrolla shares the same compressor.
That Compressor brand new is around 35-40k
And lot one kabuli are 30-35k

[pwuser166331039855]

i had 2006 altis earlier. Last year when i checked and guy from junk yard was giving toyota's 2006 model ac compressor in 35K (kabuli).
AC guy (whom i know since long), suggested me to use Honda BRV's compressor which was available in 16K only. There has to be special bracket to hold that compressor and separate belt to run. He said run the car for a week and if i don't like the cooling, then he will take back the compressor and will change toyota's as per my wish. But luckily its cooling was very much satisfied and AC was chill while car on idle. I enjoyed that little modification of ac compressor. it was good.

[Xulfiqar]

Your mechanic was a dumbass thinking that the entire cooling is just because of the “komressarrr”

So by his rationale, the liquid/vapour parity, the condenser type, the txv superheat all is garbage…

“Sirr jee komressor daaldyo onda da, apnay paihay banjaane do! 🤣

[pwuser162557941033]

That Compressor brand new is around 35-40k

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but I've got a question for you boss: where can I buy a new compressor? I am not able to find any brand new compressors for my Suzuki Jimny in Karachi. It's a Seiko-Seiki SS07LK10. I'm tempted to throw money away on a gamble and just order one of them off AliExpress, properly vacuum, fill it myself.

My AC really kinda sucks in the daytime, especially at idle. The compressor is dying. I want to do an entirely new system save the evaporator, I guess, because it's hard to find. I've been able to find a new TXV on Daraz, I'm sure we can get a new lineset here, and some kind of new condenser that will fit. New dryer too.

FWIW I'm limited to optimizing my existing AC system against radiant heat from the exhaust using those glass fiber wrap things.

AC guy (whom i know since long), suggested me to use Honda BRV's compressor which was available in 16K only. There has to be special bracket to hold that compressor and separate belt to run. He said run the car for a week and if i don't like the cooling, then he will take back the compressor and will change toyota's as per my wish. But luckily its cooling was very much satisfied and AC was chill while car on idle. I enjoyed that little modification of ac compressor. it was good.

Who was this guy? He might be able to help me retrofit a new system if it's in Karachi.

[dani_kk]

Dear we ordered 1uzfe ac compressor from AliExpress 3years back just because at that time it wasn't available here. So if you have ordered already. Install that one.
The cooling was excellent. Jimny one is not available new due to less demand.

[Xulfiqar]

This compressor looks like the tiny version of the 1990s mazda 323 compressor، I think its also sold as diesel kiki brand.

[affanhaq94]

Try contacting partscentral

[pwuser166331039855]

Well its true, ugly or bad. I shared the actual story. I know majority only writes here what others wants to hear. But I share my actual auto-related experiences and I believe majority out there still opt for the same types of options which are more economical.

See, here are the actual calculations. For records, it happened last year in March/April.

Toyota’s used AC Compressor cost = 35,000
Gas Charge (aka refrigerant) = 7,000
Replace old pipes, new thermostate, new o-rings, condenser services, etc. = 10,000
Workshop Fee (Labour) = 8,000
Old Compressor adjustment = -1500
Total = 58,500/-

Here are the calculations with BRV’s compressor.
BRV’s used AC Compressor cost = 16,000
Additional bracket to hold compressor = 500
Additional belt = 700
Gas Charge (aka refrigerant) = 7,000
Replace old pipes, new thermostate, new o-rings, condenser services, etc. = 10,000
Workshop Fee (Labour) = 8,000
Old Compressor adjustment = -1500
Total = 40,700/-

Saving = 17,800/-

See either its BRV’s compressor or Toyota’s or Honda or Haier or Pel or Dawlance, …. who cares if your 18 years old vehicle is cooling like brand new vehicle ?

[pwuser166331039855]

Who was this guy? He might be able to help me retrofit a new system if it's in Karachi.

He is from Lahore.

[Xulfiqar]

Your calculation only works if you dont have to spend the amount twice. I laugh at such calculations as they are same category as cd70 carburetor on mehran.

I work on ethic of car should not have to revisit my shop for same job in short time, I can claim with 200% confidence that out of tens of thousands of ac jobs Ive done I had less than 10 comebacks and that too for material defect or wiring problems not done by my shop.

Best approach is to follow control spec and not try to outsmart the designer, if you think the original was bad prove it to yourself in engineering and logical terms that it is bad.

[pwuser166331039855]

The part of world where you live is the society who are good pay masters.
Here our earning dynamics are totally different. Every bit counts for us. These discussions will open another can of worms so lets jump back to topic.

Do you run a workshop in usa. Mind sharing the contact & location details. Seeing you there would be great and in terms of privacy it would be fully respected as you require.

[Xulfiqar]

My work ethic was same in Karachi Pk, no difference. And I was also famous for “lutera banda” because my charge was usually 200-300% of usual small shops.

The customers who were pinching misers and had excuses of “ghareeb aadmi” were always a waste of time, not because they were short of money, but more short of common sense.

[pwuser166331039855]

Well when you started work in autos, I guess mid-late 90s, till that time we don’t have even one graduate in whole PK in the field of repairs. Mechanics were considered & treated as people who just take money as their labour for opening/closing some nut & bolts etc. and not much of the respect were given to them. I am sorry but this thing is still true in many part of our country.

If some body is not going to school or repeatedly failing, then… issko mechanic kay pass chorr aatey thay. Kay chalo school main to perha nahi laking garion ka kaam seekh jaye ga.

99% of mechanics cannot sign their own name and were pure Angootha Chaapp.

And there is no doubt that you changed those whole dynamics.

Now we have many educated people in the field of repairs and they are running their workshops very well.

Earlier mechanics were only mechanics and electricians were separate. But now many mechanics are electricians too because they understand the basics very well and few of them can even re-program the ECUs as well.

Earlier mechanics never know the types of oils, their gradings, certifications, properties, viscosities, etc. But now they guide to people which types of fluids are recommended for their vehicles.

And list goes on....

And all in this scenario, all credit goes to you because you were the pioneer to change these dynamics of auto repair works in PK

[dani_kk]

Corrolla compressor has a life span of atleast 6-8years easily whereas brv compressor, duet and other cheap solutions fail after a year or so.. I have recieved good quantity of vehicles with the same problems. Customers are like it's not cooling. When we open the system we see sludge deposits inside the system.

Corrolla compressor usually comes with a clutch not engaging or magnetic coil not working about 88% of times so that's why we suggest to go with Toyota compressor. Sometimes saving 18000 rupees causes you to loose your time, money and you become highly skeptical and fear ful, thinking ac will fail.

[pwuser166331039855]

Corrolla compressor has a life span of atleast 6-8years easily whereas brv compressor, duet and other cheap solutions fail after a year or so..

Well generally it can be true and it cannot be as well.

Because Compressor does not know in which car he is fixed in? Or does it? It just follow the engine’s RPM and its own cooling mechanism.

This AC guy is like a friend. He told me it happens by an experiment. Few years back they did this (as an experiment) to one of his own cars. And he was surprised with the results that it works great.
Plz don’t ask me which car he fit that compressor otherwise there will be
serious bombardment of the words from Xulfiqar

Since you run workshop of your own, hence you must have seen people’s reactions when they hear the repair costs more than their expectations. They just listen and silently walk away to another shop for the more economical solution. Isn’t it?

The key point here is that Toyota’s compressor costs 35K and its kabuli (who knows its repaired, or kabuli or what not). And BRV’s compressor is also Kabuli. Means both compressors has absolute no guarantees that they will work. (However they do have replacement warrantees only).

Hence the difference of 20K in price for both parts from junk yard, makes
us think twice about it and majority opt the economical option.

[dani_kk]

Well brother, if it was so simple why would the automotive engineers choose one type of compressor in specific vehicle?

Secondly pulley size changes, belt size changes and it reduces alternator current too in some vehicles, I've tested this. Like in nissan it's own compressor was connected we were getting 14.3v and once it was changed to duet or city the voltage dropped to 13.7v, so please do not justify false logic by means of
Oh jee dekhen sasta haina to log sasta lagwa lete.

Durability matters and span also matters to most number of people. And such types of client never visit my workshop who look for juggars and cheap solutions.

However if someone comes of this caliber to me, I straight away tell them I am unavailable for this job.
So giving and suggesting solutions based on assumptions is something many people do. But I would recommend you that always ask any modifications or upgrades if you want to do and write here on forum.

We will always help you in going in the correct directions.
And I am just giving you my opinion and respect your opinion but things don't work this way.

Plus we very well know once we hook any of those compressors in the car that how good they are or how bad they are. You can check this by seeing the hi side pressure values. While adding refrigerant.

Common faults of weak compressor are that once you add refrigerant you see red gauge moving very slowly to 200 or above and stays at 200psi and even if you rev the engine the needle doesn't swings much.

The cooling on idle becomes bad, and suction side aka low side also does not goes near 30 mark infact stays near 50-60psi and even if you rev it, it doesn't goes low infact hi and low side deflection is very less.

Thanks.

[Xulfiqar]

If I install a 2 ton condenser and compressor on a 4 ton central ac evaporator, what should I exoect?