Car Care and Detailing Dreams

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[shozi123]

Salaam need lil help....

Car wash karnay k baad..... jab gari pe Dust hoti hai tou usay sahi saaf kaisay karu :\ itni dust hoti hai k 1 baar bahir jao tou itni dust hoti hai k main kehta hu wash hi ker lu per :-!

[vague_one]

Salaam need lil help....

Car wash karnay k baad..... jab gari pe Dust hoti hai tou usay sahi saaf kaisay karu :\ itni dust hoti hai k 1 baar bahir jao tou itni dust hoti hai k main kehta hu wash hi ker lu per :-!

here you go brother!

JazakAllah for liking the thread, as for your query.......The topic of dust attraction to car paint comes up often and the usual trend of the thread is to find quick cures......Now to understand dust attraction, go to the core of the prob...... the resin used to make clear coat paints in and of itself has a high static charge. That's not a charge that's on the paint, that's a static charge that's in the paint. So it's pretty hard to change the charge of your car's finish without removing the paint, which defeats the purpose of polishing and waxing your car to make it look great...........Second, even if you could create a resin with a neutral charge, the dust, dirt and air-borne contaminant in the air, that fall and land on your precious baby have their own electrical or static charge and you and I cannot do anything to remove all the static electrical charge out of all the dust in the air in the world, or at least the part of the world that you drive and park your car.......Even yet part of the problem is that static electricity is created by the act of you rubbing your hand over the finish with a clean, dry microfiber polishing cloth. This wiping action creates and imparts a static charge that attracts dust...........Since common sense tells you that after applying a wax or paint sealant you need to wipe it off using some kind of toweling, it's a given that some level of static electricity is going to be created to the finish by --> you <-- and there's nothing you can do about it except for not wax your car..........Not waxing your car is not a solution because a coating of wax or a paint sealant does two primary things......The primary purpose of a car wax or synthetic paint sealant is to act as a sacrificial barrier coating over the surface of your car’s paint...An application of a quality car wax or paint sealant makes the paint look good.Not waxing your car just to avoid dust attraction is not a real world solution because most of us want to protect our car's paint so that it will last over the service life of the car and of course make the paint look good..........So realistically speaking, you have to wash and wax your car regularly or your car's paint will deteriorate due to neglect and exposure to the environment plus wear-n-tear......coming to solutions, Water acts as a natural static electricity neutralizer. Wiping your car's highly polished paint with water is an anathema to most of us as we would never do anything that would increase the potential to inflict swirls or scratches into the paint......Spray Detailers to the resuce.....Spray Detailers are mostly water plus ingredients that provide lubrication, gloss, slickness, shine and in some cases, protection.So while you and I would never wipe our car down with a water soaked wet rag, we will gently and carefully wipe our car's finish down with a quality spray detailer and this will help to remove static electricity as well as make the paint look great! My apologies for the lonnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggg boring lecture.......but I`m of the idea that you guys need to step up your game more.....its been a good few months this thread is in motion........I think all necessary knowledge has been put in for newbies an experts alike.......lets get into the pro leagues now....whos game ?????

[irfanali81]

Irfan Bahi Welcome , Great Khawish(wish) & great wish , Indeed you can achieve it , but for that you need to come down to earth , talk to your car , listen to it , get yourself sweat, I don't know the products used in above car to achieve that shine , but indeed I know what me & Tayyad did on below car , may be shine is not like above but we know how we treat her , what are the products , the amount of sweat , the amount of love, the amount of time & dedication we pay to it.

Just want to highlight put your self in it and than INSHALLAHA you'll get it , we all are here to help you.

WOW its awsome bro... Plz share your experience how did u this.. Detailed procedure shall be helpful... Thanks..

[irfanali81]

Irfan Bahi Welcome , Great Khawish(wish) & great wish , Indeed you can achieve it , but for that you need to come down to earth , talk to your car , listen to it , get yourself sweat, I don't know the products used in above car to achieve that shine , but indeed I know what me & Tayyad did on below car , may be shine is not like above but we know how we treat her , what are the products , the amount of sweat , the amount of love, the amount of time & dedication we pay to it.

Just want to highlight put your self in it and than INSHALLAHA you'll get it , we all are here to help you.

WOW its awsome bro ... Plz share your experience how did u do this.. Detailed procedure shall be helpful... Thanks..

[accord7362]

WOW its awsome bro ... Plz share your experience how did u do this.. Detailed procedure shall be helpful... Thanks..

JAZAKALLAHA Brother this shine owe to :
@Tayyab + Meguiars products + previous history by which car was kept +Mother's tire dresser & shiner + speed chrome polish.

All the application was by hand and removal by rotary buffer

2nd coat of NXT was removed after 12hr by hand

More pic's and details of this section is on link below
https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/members-member-rides/132613-yes-another-steermatic-accord7362-29

Regards

[margallar]

@junaid invest in a namda under the bonnet the engine heat damages the paint, i dont think it can be abraded anymore. take care of the finish

[vague_one]

somebody told me to use rubbing compound, is it okay to use that?

Whoever that somebody was, I dont think knew much about whats going on.....brother there is very little that you can do to change the basic colour of the car besides gettin it re-painted....just go to a good shop, get 3M Rosa an get yer car polished...the yellowness will go away an the car will come into the same it was when it rolled off the line......

[margallar]

Whoever that somebody was, I dont think knew much about whats going on.....brother there is very little that you can do to change the basic colour of the car besides gettin it re-painted....just go to a good shop, get 3M Rosa an get yer car polished...the yellowness will go away an the car will come into the same it was when it rolled off the line......

btw would it work if he used white colormagic? temporary elaaj

[Mistero]

oki now boys....here are the vaguified ride pix....it was detailed last nite by dr detail...enjoy the pic & share your comments

Sirjee...resale mein say 50,000 ropay kum hogaey.....yeh to poree garee repaint hai....all panels....

(this was a compliment btw :P)

Another shot at a bad joke......"OMG...someone stole all your SWIRLS!!!!"

[thekonsultant]

Whoever that somebody was, I dont think knew much about whats going on.....brother there is very little that you can do to change the basic colour of the car besides gettin it re-painted....just go to a good shop, get 3M Rosa an get yer car polished...the yellowness will go away an the car will come into the same it was when it rolled off the line......

Whoever that somebody was ...... It Wasn't Me -

[Mistero]

JazakAllah All for acknowledgement.........as for the stuff used, it was Menzerna polish, Farecla G3, and Megs ultimate comp ka kushta, i.e. all three put into a small tub an mixed vigorously .....all this was first applied on the car an used for cutting through the oxidation.....cutting was done with a wool pad an the machine was set to 3k to 6k rpm on various locations due to paint erosion......the car was then wiped with a wet mf.......at this point we were having some dew issues......wax was then applied......the wax was in itself a new ejaad, dil to nahin kar raha lekin chalo.....it was another kushta technology, turtle platinum,dodo super natural,zymol........all mixed for nearly 5 mins with the rotary.........this kushta was applied by hand with a hard foam pad......left to haze an removed with a mf......the roof an bonnet started to gather dew so they were rewaxed an then instantly removed with the Megs finishing pad on the rotary at 2krpm.....an lastly the final wipe down with a mf......an sorry for the delay Junaid, but I just dont accept a detail till I`ve got the proper time for it......I made Tilsim wait for nearly three months before I put a hand on his car.....yer lucky to get away with two....

all I can say is wow!

and the fact that there is no A to Z of detailing...you just made detailing convert into Japanese....36,000 plus characters (A to Z tau sirf 26 characters hain)!!!

[ahmad_yar]

JazakAllah All for acknowledgement.........as for the stuff used, it was Menzerna polish, Farecla G3, and Megs ultimate comp ka kushta, i.e. all three put into a small tub an mixed vigorously .....all this was first applied on the car an used for cutting through the oxidation.....cutting was done with a wool pad an the machine was set to 3k to 6k rpm on various locations due to paint erosion......the car was then wiped with a wet mf.......at this point we were having some dew issues......wax was then applied......the wax was in itself a new ejaad, dil to nahin kar raha lekin chalo.....it was another kushta technology, turtle platinum,dodo super natural,zymol........all mixed for nearly 5 mins with the rotary.........this kushta was applied by hand with a hard foam pad......left to haze an removed with a mf......the roof an bonnet started to gather dew so they were rewaxed an then instantly removed with the Megs finishing pad on the rotary at 2krpm.....an lastly the final wipe down with a mf......an sorry for the delay Junaid, but I just dont accept a detail till I`ve got the proper time for it......I made Tilsim wait for nearly three months before I put a hand on his car.....yer lucky to get away with two....

sir gee haath holla rahkyia karo pls, most of us are at basic stage of detailng "abc" and you are telling us recipies of "xyz" "kushtas" !!

samj te kuj khass nahi ayia per jo we tusi keta hye "kamal" hee ho gyia hai

[Mistero]

@junaid...

On a serious note buddy...I have had a lot of memories with Margallas (nopes never owned one...)...IBA days...had three Margallas in the car pool and a lot of early youth driving was done on them...including experimenting with a lot of hot shot driving styles if you know what I mean...so I know my margallas....

Sir...I do not even remember even one Margalla having a shine like this even when they were new (and I remember them like yesterday...one was white, one was same as yours and one was olive green)...Jazak Allah sir...the love shows...nopes better word ...it is dripping.

[imranhakro]

Whoever that somebody was ...... It Wasn't Me -

hahahahahaa..... thekonsultant, that was a good one
reminds of "Papa main Bobby to nahi hun"

[ahmad_yar]

JAZAKALLAHA Brother this shine owe to :
@Tayyab + Meguiars products + previous history by which car was kept +Mother's tire dresser & shiner + speed chrome polish.

All the application was by hand and removal by rotary buffer

2nd coat of NXT was removed after 12hr by hand

More pic's and details of this section is on link below
https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/members-member-rides/132613-yes-another-steermatic-accord7362-29

Regards

amir bhai be fair and share everything without hidden anything.....

where is your "lot of love " in this ???

[ahmad_yar]

Whoever that somebody was, I dont think knew much about whats going on.....brother there is very little that you can do to change the basic colour of the car besides gettin it re-painted....just go to a good shop, get 3M Rosa an get yer car polished...the yellowness will go away an the car will come into the same it was when it rolled off the line......

usman bhai
how you rate 3m rosa ?

a) extream abrasive
b) medium abrasive
c) very less abrasive

for serious swrils do u think just one polish ok or we do first abrasive polish than for fineness use little less abrasive polish and than glazing + sealent etc

another question, if swrils are serious on bonnat compare to rest of car body than still need to polish whole car with same polish ? or we can use little less abrasive polish on rest of car ?

[Mistero]

Guys...I attempt to review the work I have done on my car and share the results on post session performance and maintenance as well because most of us have daily use cars...the cars look amazing when done up and detailed fresh but for me a very important factor is how will the car carry on till the next session. So bear with me as I put in another review of how this week went...

Sunday - (you know the details)...

Monday - Top coat given WITH DETAILER this time instead of Wax enhancer...

Result: No smudge marks on Monday and very low dust.

Tuesday - didn't want Mr. D to touch the car...and I had come up with FLU...so wasn't planning to wipe it...to my surprize...car had a very thin coat of dust...you could only see it when you were right next to it...other wise the shine was over powering the dust layer.

Wednesday - reasonable amount of dust (normally what I accumalate in 12 hours)...so let Mr. D do a semi wash only. I wanted to detailer wipe later but when I saw the shine and depth...didn't touch it...so only semi wash on wednesday

Thursday - again same as Tuesday...decided to stick to a non wiped car.

Friday (today) - car was in the same shape as Wednesday...so a detailer wipe had to be given...I could have gone for a semi wash again but Mr. D has quit the job on Wednesday and I was in no mood for exerting myself on drying a car....So a detailer wipe was given...since dust was relatively thicker...it took me more than the usual. Infact this is when I realized that the dust was much thicker than on Wednesday. The car came out shiney...but Nah...it had this sort of Plasticky look to the shine...no depth...most probably the wax had erroded quite a bit (I now apply a very thin coat).

So the wax enhancer was brought out...and the car was returned back to it's deep deep shine...infact the right words should be "warm deep wet dripping look" (detailer + wax enhancer work well for the shine)

Review of the wax enhancer coming in next post....however...here are quick results: the wax enhancer is ATTRACTING DUST...I have quite a bit of visible dust on the car infact double of what I had on the day of the detailer. So perhaps this might the only and the last can of this product that I will get/use.

So Detailer in my little experience repels dust while wax enhancer (due to its oily nature) attracts dust!

I was hoping to avoid a wipe tomorrow but I guess I might have to do a wet one tomorrow if not earlier.

[vague_one]

Whoever that somebody was ...... It Wasn't Me -

Hahahahahaahahah.......! Come on maan! Itna to trust karo bhae meray par!
.....I know everyone from this thread knows better

[vague_one]

all I can say is wow!

and the fact that there is no A to Z of detailing...you just made detailing convert into Japanese....36,000 plus characters (A to Z tau sirf 26 characters hain)!!!

Time to up the ante sir jee!! Lets get detailing!