Cultus Ac Issue Please Help

[yasiralishoro]

Hello guys, its my first post here but have been a reader for years on pakwheels.
I just recently bought a cultus 2007 vxr and was not satisfied with its ac. My car mechanic said it just needed service and gas refill, i paid him 3000 for that but still it was just good for night only. I went to him and he said condenser needed cleaning so he took me to a petrol pump and cleaned it but still the performance was bad. So from previous posts on pakwheels, i concluded that tariq road is the best place to go in karachi and especially bashir car ac. I went there and told him my problem that the ac only works at night and in day, it just throws cool air, he told me compressor was weak and it was of a mini pajero. Told me the whole unit needed change and it would cost me 20k, including compresser, condenser, coil, fan, fitting and gas. Tired of local mechanics i thought if giving him a try so i paid him 20ks to do that. Its a denso system. Initially i was pleased as in evening and night its chilling. But in afternoon im literally sweating still, same is the case with 5 people on board or even when the car is stand still. This happens only in afternoon. I told my mechanic about it and he said the compressor is of 660 cc and thats all it can do and that he wants to install a 1300cc compressor of mitsubishi and that would chill the cabin even at noon. What do you guys suggest? Ive already ivested 25000 and im not happy satisfied with the results. I had a mehran before this which i sold solely because its ac just wont work even after spending 30k on it, all the mechanics just complained that its all that a 800cc can do. Thats why i bought a 1000cc and its still not chilling. I want an ac thats fine no matter what, i hate when passengers complain and ask me to shut the ac off and open the windows, its embarassing for me. I need solutions, i dont want to change my car again to 1300cc, 1000cc should be adequate enough as my friend has a company fitted ac in his cultus vxri 2007 and its always chilling, please suggest a shop or something that would help, i dont want my money going down the drain anymore! Please

[Ijaz_Ahmed]

Three questions

1) How good the AC is when you are on a longer drive with constant speed? Is it good enough then?

2) Does the AC trip when car is parked? Does it turn off and then turn on?

3) When you spent 20K to change the whole system, did your mechanic install a new compressor or a used one?

I have a Cultus 2004 that has exact same issues with the A/C. My car AC Mechanic is known to us for many years and he said that unless I change the compressor with a brand new / genuine part, the AC performance will remain at par in the city.

My car AC does not trip on idling because compressor is weak and can't cool the air to 8 degree while at around 1200 RPM.

When it runs at 3K RPM for around 20 minutes, the cooling is excellent and AC trips as well.

Also keep in mind that peak temperature of the day is at about 4:00PM in the afternoon.

[abid110]

Cultus's AC is extremely bad. I have kept 2008 vxri and I assure you its AC is as good as of a mehran. It chilled in morning and after sun set and night only. NEVER during day times in Karachi. I own a Liana too and it's AC is always chilling no matter what temp is outside. If you will put in a big compressor it will put abnormal load on your engine which will be bad and very painful. You are already ripped off in hands of AC technicians and they all put in mini pajero's and that's useless

[yasiralishoro]

1. Yes its great when its moving at a good speed but not in evening, in evening it just throws cool air. Same is the case when i have 5 people onboard or im stuck in traffic. Works fine in the morning and at night even with 5 people.
2. Not sure but if i come to halt after a long drive, ac changes from being chilled to just throwing cold air.
3. He installed a kabli mini pajero compressor which he said was in perfect condition.

[yasiralishoro]

So allowing him to change the compressor to 1300cc is a bad idea right? Hmm, can you suggest me an alternate? Apart from changing my car to a 1300cc? I like this car as it has everything i need, apart from a good ac ive already paid enough but if still someone promises perfect ac, i am willing to do so, i just want results.

[Ijaz_Ahmed]

I have a mini pajero as well which is 660cc auto. Believe me, the AC of 1997 mini pajero is much better than my 2004 cultus.

It is not only the compressor, there are other components in the system which are responsible for efficient cooling. I personally think main cause is inefficient heat removal from the condenser due to either bad design of the condenser or it's placement in the engine compartment. A high RPM fan on the condenser may improve the AC performance at low speeds.

Do you have a friend/colleague who got a Cultus with a good AC (better than yours) ? Can you check and tell the difference ? Before doing any more work, let's be sure that a Cultus AC can be improved upto a certain/known mark.

[abid110]

i spent alot too on my 2008 cultus's ac and failed to get any results. cultus's cabin by default is having insulation issues. that makes the outside sounds come in too and probably the outside heat is not kept away (this is what i am told by other seniors in this forum and i agree to it). aap kisi k paas bhi jaen, wo aap ko promise kre ga k ac chilled ho jaega. aur jab mera kaam hogaya and after 2/3 days i went back to him k yar wo maza nahi so he comfortably said 'bhai cultus k lehaz se best chal raha hai AC koi Xli ya Liana thori hai ye jaisa aap chah rhay ho'..ab kar lo baat iss jumlay k baad..

[yasiralishoro]

Yes a friend of mine has a 2007 vxri and its ac is quite brilliant, everything is stock in his ac, but it does great in afternoon aswell, as soon as we start it, it start throwing chilled air.

[yasiralishoro]

I bought this car because i was impressed by my friends ac in his cultus, so i suppose theres something wrong with what the ac mechanics are doing! I just called my mechanic and he now suggets that the coil and compresser bashir ac installed are getting hot under heat so he wants to change both and is asking me for 8k, i told him not to touch anything related to the ac anymore until i myself am sure of how this issue can be solved#

[abid110]

Maybe your friend's cultus is having altered AC in it...I mean some bigger compressor, bigger condenser, powerful fan or most of all he must have done insulation of his car from all around. I haven't seen any Cultus's AC going on good in day time. You will be spending a lot and maybe not get desired results. Each mechanic will advise you to do this and that and in the end will back off saying its cultus and will never give cooling of a Corolla which you expect. Its all based on my experience.

[yasiralishoro]

I wish it did , im heading to bashir car ac to ask him why he told me that he was sure about the ac and took 20k from me when its performing shit under sunlight! Otherwise il just give up after this, have spent too much on these things, couldve bought a indus corolla with this much spending

[abid110]

Jee bhai. You should have asked this query before spending and I would have literally stopped you from doing this. Do me a favour. I heard car AC panels are available at tariq road market. Can you ask me for AC panel of Liana there and its price?

[yasiralishoro]

He wasnt available at 11 today, il be heading there during lunch break and will surely ask him dont worry

[abid110]

Thanks bro. Aas paas ki shops bhi puch lena liana k panel ka

[yasiralishoro]

Bro sorry ubi zehan main nae raha, bashir walo ne pehle to pehchanne se mana krdya, jb unhe receipt dikhai to accept kiya k koe issue hai per dubara ac ki gas bhar k dedi! Ac wesa ka wesa hai lol ubtk.

[abid110]

The typical scene jisme paise bhi gaey kaam bhi nahi hua...

[bilaalkhan1999]

Salam guys ! I don't know why people are saying culture's AC is not good, I have a 2005 cultus and believe me I think my cars AC is better than city's as my friend have a city I sat in it and I didn't like it at all. All the parts in my car is genuine, of course sometimes the gas runs out so I have to go and make them fill the gas.

[yasiralishoro]

Do you have any idea if i can change my current setup to stock? By only changing the compressor with a kabli counterpart for the stock cultus stock compressor? I just drove home at night and the ac does wonders at night and in the morning, i have to keep it at minimum because it gets too cold, but what does it suck in the afternoon under sunlight, thats still a mystery

[abid110]

Bad heat proofing of cultus

[bilaalkhan1999]

I'm not sure but get your radiator checked and air filter as well. Plus let us know where does your temperature gauge needle point. In my car it's in the middle or below so if you're car is getting more hot that might be the reason why AC couldn't work properly. In my car AC trips sometimes but it's usually when the car is stopped. Sorry if I said something wrong. Hope it helps