Direct connection radiator fan is harmful

[digimanpk]

@crazyrider
ok!!... done replacement, coil is good.!! What now??

[crazy_rider]

@digimanpk
what is replaced????????????
felt any differnce
if dist. cap n rotor is changed ur engine should b smoother reply 4 ur expereince
now get checked ur spark plugs
faulty plugs r main cuz of low mileage
when did u changed plugs last time??????????
if plugs r ok then now check ign wires mechnics have a meter which reads to conduvtivity of wires faulty ign wire also eat more fuel n preoduce less power
after doing all let me know what u hav done in full details
also keep an eye on ur engine response

[displacement_on_demand]

@crazy_rider

First of all... I don't know why you and few other members get so "Mad" or "Red" when people reply to the posts... All I did was reply to your post and you are talking back as if I commited some fedral crime. Why is it that some members on this forum are always in a "fight" mood?

Second... Yes I did my homework but not now, but 2 years ago when I studied automobiles...

I made things very clear... Direct connection to radiator fans isn't BAD. I don't know how cold it gets in Pakistan but here temps go down to almost -45 in winters and I have seen many
cars with 2 fans that have 1 fan as direct. What happens on highway? On highways when you are travelling @ speeds like 100-110 km.. the radioator gets up to 3-4 times more ram air than it can from fans.. but the cars still maintain their temperature @ highways...

I hope I can make you understand a bit more...

When you start up the car in morning.. the water pump only circulates coolant in the engine.. not radioator as the thermostat runs in closed mode but as the car starts to reach it's normal temperature... the thermostat starts to open, allowing coolant to flow in radiator.

You were talking about ECT (Engine Coolant Temperature) sensor. First of all.. ECT is usually located on cylinder head or on theromostat housing... What it does it read the coolant temperature and send signal to the PCM.

You are giving people wrong advice...

secondly work on igniotion coil a faulty ignition coil eats up power as well as fuel

If the ignition coil is faulty... the car won't simply start up... even if it does for sometime you would know right away about this problem...

now get checked ur spark plugs
faulty plugs r main cuz of low mileage

faulty plugs dont lead to low gas mileage but they cause misfire...

[crazy_rider]

@displacement_on_demand
i will rep u later but 4 time being ur ignorant behaviour makes ppl like me agitated so we began to fight but it is not the matter
i m talking about performance in city n u r makin example of hi way:@:@:@:@:@:@:@
im guiding a prson 4 its benefit w\o any consideration n u r chalenging me:p:p:p:p:p

so go ahead with ur bigot aptitude

what else
this guy has low mileage n i m trying to help him n u r still here with bigot mind:@:@:@:@:@:@

rep u later in details

[crazy_rider]

@displacement_on_demandnow i m back

First of all... I don't know why you and few other members get so "Mad" or "Red" when people reply to the posts... All I did was reply to your post and you are talking back as if I commited some fedral crime. Why is it that some members on this forum are always in a "fight" mood?

the reason is this all ppl cannot hav same mind but things get worst when a person neglects everything n stick with his point which other ppl dont like and things bcome more worse when everythings made clear as i did but some1 remain ignorant8o|8o|8o|8o|

I made things very clear... Direct connection to radiator fans isn't BAD. I don't know how cold it gets in Pakistan but here temps go down to almost -45 in winters and I have seen many
cars with 2 fans that have 1 fan as direct

hav u ever heard about thermostat valve dear????????
what it does is simply restrict flow of water so if 1 fan is kept direct (i dont know y ppl do this) engine maintain its temp by no flow of water

open ur eyes here

i m posting s thread here 4 performance n mileage n r talking about hi way :d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d

80% of ur driving is done within city n u ''hi way''

now listen by heart
on hi way i agree more air flow through radiator but dont forget 1 factor that more the speed means more work n more work more needs energy needed n more energy burns more fuel result in what ?????????
shit

no

it results n heat so car maintain its temp even on hi way also by usin thermo valve

ok my dear

now next

When you start up the car in morning.. the water pump only circulates coolant in the engine.. not radioator as the thermostat runs in closed mode but as the car starts to reach it's normal temperature... the thermostat starts to open, allowing coolant to flow in radiator.

You were talking about ECT (Engine Coolant Temperature) sensor. First of all.. ECT is usually located on cylinder head or on theromostat housing... What it does it read the coolant temperature and send signal to the PCM.

so whats the point to ponder i was hell tryin xplain the same

You are giving people wrong advice...

secondly work on igniotion coil a faulty ignition coil eats up power as well as fuel

If the ignition coil is faulty... the car won't simply start up... even if it does for sometime you would know right away about this problem...

u r right but lil bit

what is the transition b\w faulty n good ign coil

u r right that a faulty coil will not start engine but a ign coil about fail work will not produce shiny spark
a good shinny spark is needed to burn all fuel in cylinder a less light spark will not produce the desired spark result in wasted fuel n engine will suck more fuel to allure the itself to mileage drops here

nopw ok
is everything fine now or i hav to more ''''''''fight'''' replies

now get checked ur spark plugs
faulty plugs r main cuz of low mileage

faulty plugs dont lead to low gas mileage but they cause misfire...

i dont know who feeds u this stuff

now a faulty plug do not always makes misfire here r certain cuz 4 that

hav u ever gone 4 tunin n mechanic says '''' plug short hay''''

i m talkin about that short plug which never makes misfire but dcrease performance n mileage
this happen that u gone 4 tune up n mechaniic said
plug short hay but v u drove thousands of miles with out a single misfire
it happednd 2 dont know about u

i hav askd 'em dat it drive car but no prob n they say fell difff now n it lays thery it is coomon to listen after tunin car perform well due these reasons my dear

this is my last attempt to clear ur mind
if i failed then remain ignorant from my side

what else i can do

think on evrything will not lessen anything

[RedAppLe]

Valuable info

[digimanpk]

Lay Bhai Crazy_rider,

Starting from Top, I have done the following,

1) Got new ring pistons in and New spark plugs in the car.

2) Have got my ign coil check and it seems alrite. I have also cleaned its terminal and made sure its wiring was proper. It has got a thicker wire connected as compare to other wires used.

3) Have got thermostat switch and valve installed.

4) Have replace the distributor cap. It has got a shiny https://www.pakwheels.com/StEditor/skins/default/images/toolbar.start.gifclean rotor as well. Pehlay wala cap to farigh hogaya tha , i found out that today.

5) Replaced Spark plug wires. My old ones had dirty and had carbon deponsits on them.

6) Replaced the air filter. The old one was quite dirty.

To illustrate how things might have changed , here are some pics of my old stuff.

Air Filter

Distributor Cap

Plug Wires

[digimanpk]

@crazy_rider,

Yaar I havent notice any major change in pickup. However, engine seems to idle smoothly sooner than it used to be before, hence it becomes smooth quickly. I havent pushed the engine all the way, but when i was on the road , I had a feeling that I could push the engine more then before. I really hope that my mileage improves by atleast 3-4 kms and I will be satisfied. Anymore and I would be very happy.

[crazy_rider]

@digimanpk
good yaar
u r going to get more mileage insha aallah

u hav felt more pick in ur engine n u said engine is smooth
this was the first stage
bcuz u felt something not up to the mark but things hav changed and i hope 1 day u goonaa thank me 4 help as u will say that i m getin 12 + mileage and engine is more powerful as ever
as u said engine is now allowing u to push more
1 day engine will say "" mujhe jitna khinch saktay hoo khinchoo''''
now u will b enjoying ur ride as compare to b4 these changes

i guessed right about ur dist. cap it had lived its live n was beggin 4 replacement

ur wires were also faulty

y u hav changed rings??????????
were they givin smoke????????

try not to push air filter as dirty as it was
always clean airfilter after every 1000 km
u will fell much better as clean filter allows engine to breath more easilty make it habbit to get clean filter by tire puncture wala

after 5000 km or less get filter change dont use filter as dirty as it was bcuz dirty filter also affects mileage n performance

remember always use auto fan in winters and even on summers dont listen anybody n blieve me i was also a victim of direct fan

4 safe keep rdiator water full
thats all

plz reply after getin mileage
i will try to do more things to make ur ride a eficient ride

bye
now

a guy here had made censor on me that i m bewildering ppl here wtf

but u hav ur practical xpereince what u felt after all this

[digimanpk]

i hope 1 day u goonaa thank me 4 help

I am already thanking you Yara!
THANK YOU for Helping Me.!!

y u hav changed rings??????????

Yaar Plugs main oil aata tha. I used to get somber reply from engine. Thats why changed rings and spark plugs.

try not to push air filter as dirty as it was

:p:p:p
Yaar I had a look at it before, but didnt know it was that dirty until I bought a new one and compared with it. Yeh filter to Gari ka gala daba raha hoga.

always clean airfilter after every 1000 km
u will fell much better as clean filter allows engine to breath more easilty make it habbit to get clean filter by tire puncture wala

after 5000 km or less get filter change dont use filter as dirty as it was bcuz dirty filter also affects mileage n performance

Will do Sir!

Thank you again C_R for you kind suggestions. I will let you know how it is performing now.

[crazy_rider]

@digimanok
i more thing i forgot
if u hav front disc brakes then check them too becuz if disc r jammed then they slow down car n engine need more rev

so they r big fuel wasters free ur brakes n check calipers 4 rust

[striker550]

nice info

[crazy_rider]

thanx red_apple and striker550 for readind my thread and valuing it
this reflects the gr8 part of urs

else there r many ppl how dont like others work but gr8 ppl like r not rare but these guys try to spoil everything bcuz they wer not able to do such good things

in the end thanx again any comments and sugestions r welcomed here

[digimanpk]

@crazy_rider,

Dont think kay 91 mehran main front disc hotay hain. Anyway , I am going to get some front suspension work done, to main mechanic ko is ka bhi bol doon ga.

Thank You.

[crazy_rider]

@digimanpk
it depends

some ppl i know who converted from 2 wheel disc to 4 wheel disc
some install front 2 wheel disc or 4 disc
in ther cars it depends upon moods
so i guess that u shud hav done this not its ok:d:d:d:d

[crazy_rider]

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[crazy_rider]

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[digimanpk]

@Crazy_rider,

Yaar I got some work done on front suspension( tie-rod). Us nay brake calipers ki pins new lagayee hain. Caliper seems alrite. My fuel is nearing its end and I am already near 80miles from the 10 litre of petrol that I filled after all those changes. I think I shouldnt expect a sudden change in my mileage and that it will increase gradually. All is fine.Will tell you the final mileage once my tank is empty.

[crazy_rider]

@digimanpk
is it 80 miles or 80 kms?????????????????

My fuel is nearing its end and I am already near 80miles from the 10 litre of petrol that I filled after all those changes

if it is 80 miles than it is the gr8 possible mileage a mahran can do
and it means that u will b paid back earlier u hav invested

80 miles + mileage is worth more a mahran can produce

let me know about final mileage

I

think I shouldnt expect a sudden change in my mileage and that it will increase gradually

yes ur mileage will difinately improve as time spends
as ur plugs will set them selves in ur motor as time elasps
as plug run engine heat will make some settings as metal

dist. cap will readjust it self 2

affter 5000 miles inspect dist cap 4 any corosions if found then replace them
if contact points become this replace dist. cap n njoy ur ride

[digimanpk]

Oh Sorry, its 80 kms yaar not 80 miles. will report the final mileage.