Facts about Taglon 5w-50 oil by IMC

[ahmedstudio]

Today I was at a relatively sensible mechanic ustaad's. I asked him why do you remove thermostat. He went into silence and after a few moments replied: "sir jee 80% customers kehtey hein ke nikaal do, ye Pakistan ke liye nahin bana". I asked him that why he doesn't guide them to keep it since it's designed for some function. He thoughtfully replied: "sir jee, goray ne apney hisaab se banaya hai, ye thermostat stat achi cheez hai lekin hamarey customers me liye nahin, hum kehtey hein ke isko lagayein, lekin customer nahin laganey detey". 🤪

[Xulfiqar]

These customers should own newer engines which have an electronic heated thermostat - removing it means your engine is in limp mode - dead slow, top speed 35 kmh, no A/C, fan locked at 100% power.

[autophile]

I had a lot of questions from friends and fellow Pakwheelers about Taglon, so decided to get back to IMC and got this reply just now.

I have also written to ExxonMobil Global and if I recieved any reply will share here:

Dear Mr. Gilani,

Thank you for your patience. I would like to respond your queries one by one:

1. I was surprised to see ExxonMobil logo in the document. If Taglon is blended by ExxonMobil then why there is no mention of it on the Taglon bottles? Also there is no mention of ExxonMobil on your website.

• ExxonMobil and Toyota Motor Company globally collaborate in development of engine oil & other chemicals. Based on corporate strategy mutually agreed between both companies branding decisions are taken. Your valuable feedback will be forwarded to decision makers in region.

If ExxonMobil logo is printed on the labels and also mentioned on the website it is going to evoke confidence among customers. Many people at various automobile forums are riling Taglon as an inferior products sourced by Indus Motor Company somewhere from Taiwan. Mention of Exxon Mobile will kill all these badmouthing swirling around Taglon.

• We highly value your opinion and will suggest same to our principles.

1. The document says that TGMO (Toyota Genuine Motor Oil) is synthetic while Taglon pack says it is fully synthetic. Are you sure the sheet which you have sent me is for Taglon as it does not mention the word Taglon anywhere?

• Taglon is marketing name used by IMCL in Pakistan. Globally this product is TGMO SN 5W-50 Synthetic Engine Oil.

1. Taglon box back label says it is blended in Taiwan, but your website says it is from Japan? Why this discrepancy and it is causing a lots of doubts about Taglon.

• (As mentioned above its been blended in ExxonMobil blending plant located in Taiwan therefore the blending location had to be mentioned on label for customer information / on website Japan is mentioned as al the Lube Technology requirements and technology transfers are only made up by TMC Toyota Motor Company Japan)

1. A lot of experts wonder that why Toyota has not offered 5w-30 or 0w-20 range mobil oils for Altis as these are recommended the world over? Why 5-w-50 viscosity has been chosen?

• (Continuous regional R & D programs are conducted by Exxon Mobil & TMC after which the Technology Transfers are made on regional levels, to cater the best lube for automobile, API SN & viscosity 5w-50 has a maximum demand due to technical requirements in Pakistan / Nonetheless currently we are procuring 0W-20 from Japan which is readily available at our dealership’s and sooner IMC will be launching SN-5W-30 hopefully within this year)

5- Is there any chance that the technical sheet that you sent me is not for Taglon, but some other TGMO marketed in other countries?

• (Through Exxon Mobil SN 5w-50 is been supplied to many other countries in Toyota one of which is Pakistan sheet shared with you completely explains the details about SN 5W-50)

In case of any feedback please feel free to contact me again.

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[Xulfiqar]

sounds like a legal intern wrote this reply. Toyota use different lube blenders across the globe, e.g. They use idemitsu lubes too, The blenders of toyota 0W16 oil and also the famed super moly loaded mazda 0w20.

Its hilarious.. Pakistan has no special requirements that sets it apart - and 5w50 can never ever be energy efficient either. The manjann is quite strong in this reply.

[Xulfiqar]

twice too

[suhaibayaz]

They lowkey agreed that 5x50 is shite and they will "soon" be launching better oils in alBakistan.

[Xulfiqar]

The rocket has launched and will take a few months to land on planet Pakistan.

[ahmedstudio]

Al-Bakistan is a different planet with differently 'special' requirements. This is evident in all aspects of life. People like us are minorities.

[Xulfiqar]

yes - it is such a "garamm ilaqa" that summer in phoenix arizona is a spring breeze.

FYI - plastic dumpsters and trash cans actually melt in phoenix in summer!

[ahmedstudio]

Woah!
The vehicles follow the user manual recommended engine oils specifications?

[fastian04]

Imc is getting too many gaalian and they will actually launch 5w-30 soon this will help them cover their chooran

[Xulfiqar]

yep - corolla gets 0w20 and camry get 0w16 there

[anon35615524]

I think, all engine manufacturers should permanently move to Pakistan and do all the R&D here, by taking all "Ustaads" onboard.

[ahmedstudio]

Yes, and Corolla Hatchback version too uses 0W16 in USA. I didn't know about hotter climates. But it's cleared now that ambient temperature has nothing to do with oil grade since engines internal/operating temperature is hotter than ambient temperature anyways.

In Japan, Toyota has been pouring 0W8 oil in their plug-in hybrid engines since April this year.

[suhaibayaz]

Its actually true that most Pakistanis consider USA or every white country as extremely cold area with six months day and six months night with constant snow fall.

They have no idea of vastness of USA and temperature ranges. Neither anyone would think Australia could be hot and arid.

[ahmedstudio]

All they have in mind is snow on mountains and beaches with people in natural clothes with a lust for ***

[suhaibayaz]

Of course thats what watching too much porn does to a nation, their opinions get heavily biased. hahaha

[ahmedstudio]

People here like to see things in isolation and not in context, only because it's convenient for them. It takes effort (cognitive, emotional, intelligence based, objective) to see things in context.
Right now two morons are cursing me in another thread for suggesting to them about using the correct oil grade recommended by manufacturer. Their logic to use thicker oil is that since Pakistan doesn't have good mechanics who can rebuild engines so it's better to keep feeding thicker oils... Wah wah kya baat hai... I suggested to them to rectify the root cause by making some effort in finding the techies who know their job right instead of feeding thicker oil as a solution because that's no solution rather it is worsening the engine condition perpetually. The guys have gone personal with me hahaha... Objectivity and rational thinking is not acceptable by our fellow countrymen (there are exceptions and that's why I said that people like you and me are minorities)